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Jun 24 16:51 UTC 2010 |
<gets indignant> *tut tut*
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Jun 24 17:21 UTC 2010 |
You'll only be able to edit one response at a time via the usual interface. So each of those responses can be denied or approved based on their date/time stamps if we were able to implement that feature. While it is true that discussions here quite often generate more heat than light, at least we are trying to understand and trying determine how best to do things. A lack of good information quite often leads to misunderstandings, too. So it's fine if someone corrects such a misunderstanding or asks for more information. We can move forward from that point.
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Jun 24 17:52 UTC 2010 |
the time limit is important because it would prevent circumstances like when valerie mates decided to leave grex and decided to delete all of his past posts she ever made here going back years.
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Jun 24 17:56 UTC 2010 |
But we're talking about time limits for editing, not deleting. Are we proposing a time limit for deleting?
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Jun 24 18:01 UTC 2010 |
I think both are advisable.
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Jun 24 18:03 UTC 2010 |
That runs counter to the "you own your own responses" rule.
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Jun 24 18:10 UTC 2010 |
re #169 but on grex you don't own your own responses because you can't edit them. If you write a column in the newspaper, you can't retroactively go back and remove all the printed columns because they have been printed and everybody has already read them. They are part of the paper's record. I'm all for time-limited editing and deleting, say for twelve or twenty four hours or something, but there should come a point where the post is considered 'published' and is part of Grex's record. Valerie should not have been allowed to go back and delete all her old posts because it makes some items in the old conferences, if you went back and read them, not make sense. Instead of a conference that reads like a whole work from a particular point in time, you have some old confs that now are full of holes because of what she did.
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Jun 24 18:25 UTC 2010 |
Ever hear of copyrights, Richard?
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Jun 24 18:33 UTC 2010 |
re #171 yes and Grex owns the copyright. If you publish a letter in a newspaper, you don't have the right to ask for all copies of that paper to be destroyed because you changed your mind about what you wrote. When you gave the letter to the paper and they published it, they retain the copyrighyt.
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Jun 24 18:44 UTC 2010 |
Only if Grex asserts copyright. Under international law the author owns the copyright to their work, not the publisher. We could really have fun with that if it were true (I could just publish someone else's book and say I own it). I don't think Grex has ever wished to be the owner of people's copyright to a conference response.
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Jun 24 19:16 UTC 2010 |
resp:141: Are you going to re-write backtalk to introduce that functionality? Does janc still maintain it? It's not a function of backtalk today, therefore it's not possible. resp:170: I can't really agree with that. I don't think that it should be required that everything I write here be forever property of Grex and I have no right to it's removal, particularly since Grex allows open viewing of the conferences without a login. And in case you didn't realize, Grex is not a newspaper. We have far more in common with Facebook than with in newspaper, and oh yeah, you have the ability to remove your posts from Facebook (and if you remove your account, all your posts go away too).
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Jun 24 19:31 UTC 2010 |
Actually didn't Facebook assert last year its rights to posters' material, because they felt that any comments a user left on another user's facebook page shouldn't automatically disappear once that user deleted everything from their own page? Their argument was that if you post to another user's facebook page, that does not mean that you control their ability to decide who they share *their* page's content, which your content is now also part of, with?