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Grex > Helpers > #137: Grex System Announcements - Winter 2004/2005 |  |
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gull
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response 150 of 219:
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Jan 23 22:36 UTC 2005 |
Everything is nice and fast now. Good work.
I was a little confused yesterday when I connected via dialin and got
something like this after logging in:
This is _NOT_ Grex. Use the domain name, not the IP address.
Dialin Users
NO CARRIER
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keesan
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response 151 of 219:
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Jan 23 23:23 UTC 2005 |
Ssh connection is nearly instant. Telnet not working, but it worked this
morning, very slowly.
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naftee
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response 152 of 219:
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Jan 24 02:16 UTC 2005 |
Just re-booted.
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keesan
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response 153 of 219:
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Jan 24 04:10 UTC 2005 |
Telnet and pine are working again but I have not received any mail for a few
hours except something from grex. I would have expected 10 spams in this
period.
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gelinas
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response 154 of 219:
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Jan 25 18:44 UTC 2005 |
Grex panicked and did not reboot itself Monday evening.
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gelinas
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response 155 of 219:
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Jan 25 18:49 UTC 2005 |
I think I fixed the terminal server to connect to the new machine last night,
so dial-in should be working again.
I also think I fixed the web proxy to accept requests from the new machine.
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scholar
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response 156 of 219:
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Jan 25 19:30 UTC 2005 |
Thanks, Joe!
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keesan
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response 157 of 219:
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Jan 26 03:15 UTC 2005 |
What does 'grex panicked' mean in more technical terms? Is this some odd
hardware problem or a response to something done to the software?
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janc
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response 158 of 219:
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Jan 26 03:43 UTC 2005 |
Software.
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keesan
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response 159 of 219:
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Jan 26 03:46 UTC 2005 |
I get a kernel panic when I tell it there is more memory than actual, or to
put root on some nonexistent device. Did you do something equally clever?
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janc
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response 160 of 219:
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Jan 26 03:58 UTC 2005 |
I installed a slightly newer version of backtalk and fronttalk. Backtalk has
suffered quite a few internal reorganizations aimed it making various things
I want to do in the future easier to do. There's always a risk of introducing
new bugs when I do this, but that's life. The major bug fix in Backtalk is
to the date parsing. "read since" type commands should work much better.
Fronttalk has had more noticable changes. First, it now has command line
editting (via a package known to Unix geeks as "readline") similar to what
you see in tcsh and other modern shells. That means you can use the arrow
key to move back into the command you are typing and edit it, or use the up
arrow key to move back in the command history and reissue previous commands.
The "read since" command was working badly. It should now work much better.
The date syntax understood by Backtalk isn't exactly the same as Picospan or
Yapp - it actually accepts a much wider range of date syntaxes. Doing
"help date" in Fronttalk will tell you more than any sane person wants to
know about Fronttalk date formats. Backtalk now implements the Picospan
"date" and "cdate" commands, but they are pretty useless, so don't worry
about it.
Control-Z generally should work better now in Fronttalk - things should
work smoothly when you suspend/restart the program. Actually, part of this
was a BSD portability fix in Gate, so it may fix sometime problems for
Picospan users too.
I would encourage regular users of "bbs" (Picospan) to try out Fronttalk.
You run Fronttalk with the "ft" command. The plan is that Fronttalk will
eventually replace Picospan on Grex. Trying it out now to make sure it
behaves well for you would be wise.
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janc
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response 161 of 219:
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Jan 26 03:59 UTC 2005 |
Re 159: No, this is probably an OpenBSD bug. There is a theory that it is
due to using soft updates, a feature that may not be fully mature in OpenBSD
version 3.5. We don't actually know what caused the last crash though.
Things are being tried.
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twenex
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response 162 of 219:
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Jan 26 12:07 UTC 2005 |
A kernel panic is the UNIX version of a Windows "Blue Screen of Death" -
except that the last time it happened every day was probably in 1971 or so.
For the record, Windows isn't the worst - IBM's ill-fated TimeSharing System,
TSS, took over 10 minutes to boot up, but mean time to failure was less than
that. D'Oh!
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keesan
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response 163 of 219:
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Jan 26 13:55 UTC 2005 |
I am trying out fronttalk now and when I hit the left arrow I get [D and a
beep. Am I supposed to be able to back up? The up arrow give me [A and a
beep. I have an 84-key keyboard and am using linux. Down arrow [B. Right
arrow [C. Backspace works as expected.
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mooncat
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response 164 of 219:
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Jan 26 14:57 UTC 2005 |
Not sure if this is just me or not, but instead of seeing apostrophes
in responses I keep seeing: '
In case it matters, I'm using Internet Explorer.
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slynne
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response 165 of 219:
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Jan 26 15:12 UTC 2005 |
I am seeing the same thing. I am also using backtalk with IE browser.
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slynne
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response 166 of 219:
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Jan 26 15:13 UTC 2005 |
Oops wrong item.
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mooncat
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response 167 of 219:
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Jan 26 16:34 UTC 2005 |
(Yeah, I noticed that too. ;) )
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remmers
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response 168 of 219:
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Jan 26 16:44 UTC 2005 |
Re #164, #165: Can you point to some specific items where the '
problem occurs?
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janc
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response 169 of 219:
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Jan 26 16:48 UTC 2005 |
resp:163 (keesan):
I would guess that your termcaps are set wrong. Do your arrow keys work
in anything else?
resp:164: (mooncat)
IE doesn't do ' ? Yuck. I guess I should take that out.
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janc
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response 170 of 219:
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Jan 26 16:50 UTC 2005 |
Backtalk changes lots of symbols into responses into other things, like <
becomes < and & becomes &. The browsers change them back. The new
backtalk also changes ' into '. Evidently IE does not change it back.
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janc
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response 171 of 219:
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Jan 26 17:14 UTC 2005 |
OK, I've fixed Backtalk to turn quotes into ' which IE apparantly does
understand.
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remmers
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response 172 of 219:
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Jan 26 17:18 UTC 2005 |
Right - I suspected it was IE lameness. Seems to me I had a problem once
with IE not recognizing ''' despite every other modern browser doing
so.
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janc
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response 173 of 219:
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Jan 26 17:19 UTC 2005 |
To state the obvious, IE is not a modern browser.
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remmers
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response 174 of 219:
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Jan 26 17:20 UTC 2005 |
Yeah - scratch the word 'other' from my response #172.
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