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Grex > Femme > #74: Help! I'm Melting.....! (long diatribe) |  |
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birdlady
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response 150 of 200:
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Jan 29 21:21 UTC 1998 |
I've noticed that too, Valerie. I usually show up at staff meetings for the
magazine in jeans and a nice sweatshirt or sweater with minimal makeup. Once,
however, I had to go somewhere nice afterwards, so I showed up in a flowing
skirt, silk poet's shirt, and nice makeup. I could've been the head of the
meeting, given how they treated me. It was definitely a sign that if you
*look* professional, you'll get treated as such. Even if you *are* a
level-headed, professional person (which I know you are, Valerie), clothes
*do* reflect a lot.
I used to go into stores in two different outfits and get treated quite
differently each time. If I wore my varsity jacket, jeans, and a t-shirt,
no one noticed me. If I happened to be wearing a long skirt, boots, and my
black trenchcoat, I got stared at by security. <shrug>
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i
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response 151 of 200:
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Jan 30 00:18 UTC 1998 |
Re: #147
<sigh>
<i would be much happier if the group demonstrating such reactions was,
say, the Interfaith Council for Bigotry in Ypsilanti>
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clees
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response 152 of 200:
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Jan 30 14:52 UTC 1998 |
re#150:
haha, indeed.
Last week I had to make a speech because of my chairmanship at the worker's
board of our library (university libraries are huge, with lots of employees).
So I showed up in a three piece suit, For many of my colleagues it was the
first time they actually saw me in a jacket, let alone a suit!
Gel mousse it fixes my hair, and I sort feel naked without any any my hair.
I have been using it for more than fifteen years now or so.
But the soap in your hair to make a nice mohawk has always been a little too
farfetched for me.
But now my hair is thinning it is hard to maintain the same haircut I have
had for such a large part of my life.
Last tinme I went to the hairdresser, she just cut it shortin some up to date
boyzone (or what these boy bands are called) manner.
Maybe you 'll be able to check me out at next Grexstock.
Still depends on my pebnpall, where she will rside by that time since she is
going to graduate from university some time this spring I reckon.
I certainly am planning of visiting her this year (after the costs and the
dust of my relocating processess have settled down a bit).
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mta
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response 153 of 200:
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Feb 5 22:19 UTC 1998 |
resp:145
Actually, the only time I can skip a day washing my hair is when I've used
mousse on it. I don't do that very often because I 'm afraid of the drying
effect, though. (My hair is abundant, but very fine. If I sleep on it, it
looks very oily by midway through the next day. The mousse seems to lift my
hair away from my scalp or seal it against the excess oil or something.)
resp:147
I'm afraid that was my point exactly. Whether it *should* be the case that
"the wrapper matters" is a legitimate case for argument. (I don't think it
should) But the fact is, that even among people who say it doesn't or
shouldn't, it often makes a subtle unconscious difference.
Once you know that, I don't think it's selling out to make use of the knowledge
when it's important that you make the right impact. Not to make use of the
knowledge is arguably selling yourself short.
What does that mean in real life? Well, I guess it means:
o when you really want that job, it's a good idea to dress with some
authority for the interview.
o when you really want to make a good impression (for instance in
representing GREX to ask for corporate donations <g>) it's a good idea
to dress in a way that sends the signal "mature and responsible".
o when you're running out to the store for a loaf of bread and a quart
of milk, who care?
o socially it's very much your own call. Maybe if you think it ougtn't
matter, you should advertise that in your own dress to attract
people who agree with you. ;)
(And to update the original topic of this discussion: I've just bought my first
size 18 dress in 20 years. It was a shocker, but I'm getting used to the idea
of being smaller and am actually able not to care now.)
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birdlady
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response 154 of 200:
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Feb 6 00:57 UTC 1998 |
<applause> =)
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valerie
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response 155 of 200:
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Feb 6 04:53 UTC 1998 |
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aruba
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response 156 of 200:
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Feb 6 08:05 UTC 1998 |
Interesting - both Sarah and Valerie are congratulating Misti on losing weight
(I think, anyway), and I thought the whole premise of this item was that she
didn't like people assuming that was a good thing. Did I miss something?
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clees
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response 157 of 200:
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Feb 6 11:03 UTC 1998 |
As far as I can see, Aruba, you are not.
But, Misti, if the applause is meant to congratulate on accepting the fact
that you are losing weight, and thus becoming another person from the looks,
since 20 years.
That ordeal, and coming to peace with that, is certainly worth a huge hand.
Misti rules.
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valerie
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response 158 of 200:
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Feb 6 20:30 UTC 1998 |
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birdlady
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response 159 of 200:
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Feb 6 21:33 UTC 1998 |
Ditto...
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orinoco
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response 160 of 200:
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Feb 7 04:53 UTC 1998 |
I hereby applaud Misti on everything and anything she would like applause on,
while simultaneously keeping my silence on everything else.
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aruba
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response 161 of 200:
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Feb 7 07:33 UTC 1998 |
Re 158,159: Ah, OK.
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i
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response 162 of 200:
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Feb 7 13:11 UTC 1998 |
"This statement is politically correct."
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orinoco
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response 163 of 200:
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Feb 8 04:12 UTC 1998 |
I find #162 blatantly and maliciously offensive.
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i
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response 164 of 200:
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Feb 8 20:03 UTC 1998 |
I fully support your individuality and diversity as represented in #163.
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orinoco
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response 165 of 200:
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Feb 9 04:03 UTC 1998 |
Aw shucks. Now I can't get righteously indignant.
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garima
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response 166 of 200:
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Feb 9 04:33 UTC 1998 |
I disagree with every word that's in #162, but I will fight to the
death for his right to say it.
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birdlady
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response 167 of 200:
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Feb 9 23:05 UTC 1998 |
<lol>
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mta
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response 168 of 200:
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Feb 15 22:04 UTC 1998 |
<chortle> This getting silly.
I took the appluase to be for my coming to terms with my problem. Thanks
folks!
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mta
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response 169 of 200:
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Apr 22 23:16 UTC 1998 |
Another update -- I just received as a gift a size 14/16 blouse. It fits.
<shiver> Well, it seems like an awfully *big* size 16. I'd have guessed that
it was a 20 or a 22.
But I have entered the stage where this massive change begins to have real
compensation. I can buy clothes from stores instead of catalogs now. I like
that. <grin>
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keesan
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response 170 of 200:
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Apr 22 23:35 UTC 1998 |
I have seen size 'small's that looked like a 20 or 22, you can't judge
clothing by the label any more. Are you a perfect size anything? I can't
wear a woman's 16, the sleeves are 2 or 3 inches too short, and I weigh about
115. Does anyone in grex actually fit standard sizes? What sorts of
alterations do people make in their clothign to get it to fit? Misti, when
you wore a 22 did you have to do alterations for length or anything?
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mta
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response 171 of 200:
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Apr 23 15:35 UTC 1998 |
Well, I'm short (5'3") and built kinda funny, but I'm also cheap and I don't
sew, so I tend to have to try on a million pairs of trousers to get one that
fits. Skirts I just wear very long. It may make me look shorter (that's what
the fashions rags say) but it workd for me. ;)
I was once a perfect size 26 -- everything I tried in that size fit OK. It
might have been flattering or not, but it fit.
Now I seem to be three different sizes -- bust seems to be around 16-18, waist
22-24, and hips, 18-20. *sigh* But then again, I haven't tried on many
clothes just looked at the charts in my supersizers catalogs.
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birdlady
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response 172 of 200:
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Apr 23 15:51 UTC 1998 |
It's always cool to be able to buy clothing in stores again...congrats! =)
I still think Lane Bryant was a gift to women by some god or goddess of
wisdom. Great clothes at decent prices in sizes 14 - 26/28.
<birdy is a 14/16/18 and those are the only clothes that truly fit her figure>
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mta
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response 173 of 200:
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Apr 24 14:06 UTC 1998 |
Well, the Lane Bryant stores are great -- but the catalog (which is run by
a very different firm) is dreadful. They specialized in the "bullet-proof
polyester pup tent" look so commonly concieved as "appropriate fat lady
clothes" and the prices are horrendous. Even worse, the clothes, which often
are available up to size 52, are modeled on size 4 women. They're adorable,
but how in heavens name are you supposed to guess how that outfit that's been
pinned on to a tiny little woman with no lumps and bumps is goung to look on
a more generously proportioned figure?
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keesan
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response 174 of 200:
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Apr 25 02:04 UTC 1998 |
All catalog models seem to be size 4, 6' tall. I wonder if you could write
computer software to display clothing on people of different sizes, sort of
like they have to showing what rooms look like when decorated different ways.
Supposedly Levi's can be custom made, they take your measurements and mail
you the product in a few weeks, with the aid of a computer. ANybody try them?
As far as I can tell, I wear a size 12 shirt (with sleeves lengthened 3
inches) with a size 4 bottom (except for the waist). Someone should design
clothing (at least pants) that comes easy to alter, with clear instructions,
for instance you have to sew the back seam yourself.
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