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Grex > Coop8 > #77: >>> Grex needs to move <<< |  |
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kain
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response 150 of 561:
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Jul 4 23:38 UTC 1996 |
might even mean changing area codes so local people who can't telnet <like
me> shudder...
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srw
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response 151 of 561:
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Jul 5 05:24 UTC 1996 |
grex is not likely to be able to move even to Ypsilanti.
However it might move *toward* Ypsilanti. It also might not. We don't know.
If it moves far enough to the southeast, there is another telephone wire
center (the southeast AA wire center) which we could wind up in.
If that happens, our phones willl be just as accessible as they are now, but
we might have to give up our 761-3000. Should we be concerned about this?
I think clearly we should. But i don't think it would be the end of the world
if we had to change our phone number. We could leave 761-3000 installed
somewhere for a couple of months and have a computer leave ascii responses
indicating the need to switch to a new phone number.
Let's cross that bridge when we come to it.
On the other hand if we went all the way to ypsi, this would disable local
calls from Chelsea, and that might cause some problems.
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ajax
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response 152 of 561:
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Jul 5 06:12 UTC 1996 |
If the move isn't too far, I think you can also maintain 761-3000, with
a call-forwarding option, to forward any calls to a new number. It's
$20/month for a line we wouldn't use for connections, but it's a possibility.
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kain
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response 153 of 561:
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Jul 5 16:34 UTC 1996 |
I think we'd have enough problems as it is we could advertsie in the ann arbor
news about the new number?
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carson
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response 154 of 561:
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Jul 5 21:06 UTC 1996 |
re #117: not quite right. wouldn't a successful appeal widen the options
of places Grex could move to?
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krc
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response 155 of 561:
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Jul 6 04:53 UTC 1996 |
There is an office building at 1905 Pauline which has a small room on the
second floor which is, I believe, currently vacant. I will have to check
on this to be sure, but the last I knew it was. The landlord is Dr. Van
Gasse, who works out of the other building he owns at 1901 Pauline. The
rent is very low, and there would be 24-hour access as each tenant has
keys to the main door and their own space. It isn't fancy, but it would
be ideal for Grex. Trouble is, I can't get any information on this until
Monday.
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popcorn
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response 156 of 561:
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Jul 6 06:01 UTC 1996 |
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mcpoz
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response 157 of 561:
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Jul 6 10:32 UTC 1996 |
Also, my wife just moved out of a small office above the Mich Theater &
Leidy's. This was a single room, I'd guess about 15'x15' and rented for
$200/mo. The Landlord was PWS Realty of Farmington Hills and they had several
sites in that building and adjacent buildings. Sorry, I don't have the phone
number.
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popcorn
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response 158 of 561:
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Jul 6 20:20 UTC 1996 |
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drew
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response 159 of 561:
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Jul 6 23:47 UTC 1996 |
This may seem a bit off base, but consider:
My understanding is that real estate in 'Arbor itself is at a premium. It may
be that for what you'd have to pay for a place in 'Arbor, you could get two,
or who knows, maybe even three, comparable places in surrounding communities.
If you get, say, a place in Ypsi and another one in Chelsea or Manchester,
this would expand the area from which grex could be reached with an untimed
call, as well as keeping everyone local who currently is.
If that fails, I have known of companies who have had phone numbers on
neighboring exchanges. Contact the phone company and see what can be arranged.
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carson
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response 160 of 561:
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Jul 7 02:07 UTC 1996 |
there's a beat-up shack on the corner of Main and Summit that looks like
it used to be a "Mom 'n' Pop" gas station. it hasn't been occupied in
years, and I don't even know who owns the land it's on. I can't imagine
that the space would be very expensive, considering the historic shape
it's been in.
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mdw
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response 161 of 561:
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Jul 7 08:41 UTC 1996 |
Why "down"?
Microgeographically, city rental property could be classified into 8
main types: basement, first floor store-front, first floor interior, 2nd
story walk-up interior, 2nd story walk-up window, hi rise interior, high
rise window, & roof/penthouse. In the ann arbor market, first floor
store-front properties command a heavy premium and are way beyond our
means. Store-front property is also actually undesirable for grex; for
security reasons. 2nd story walk-ups are common habitats for lawyers
and doctors. High rise windows are popular for office space.
Roof/penthouse spaces are also popular for offices, condominiums, and
restaurants. This leaves: a high rise interior broom-closet, and a
basement. Ann Arbor buildings may also either be old or new. Old
buildings aren't tall enough to have high rise interior space. New
buildings are designed to minimize the amount of unrentable broom-closet
waste. Hence, the basement of some old rickety building ends up being
the most probable location for grex. Basements have one further
advantage: they tend to be cooler in summer.
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rickyb
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response 162 of 561:
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Jul 7 17:24 UTC 1996 |
"microgeographically" <?>, a newly coined mdw phrase ;)
Actually marcus, I think there are more ranging categories local/city property
can fall into. For one thing, there is a distinction between commercial and
residential properties. Grex has learned it doesn't want to be in the
residential area due to more stringent codes/regulations/inspections.
There also the category of non-rental property which may be rentable directly
through the owner if it suits him/her. These are hard to find, but available.
The site I uncovered _is_ in a basement, but it's not exactly what i would
call "some old rickety building". In fact, it houses a doctors office, and
another doctor has been interested in one of the available suites. The
landlord wants to have more varied tenants and will (likely) not rent it to
a doc. The basement is clean (relatively), dry, accessible (two egress
avenues) and the cieling would be at about 7.5' if a dropped one were
installed, or it is nearly 11' if left open. Electric and telephone sources
in the basement are within 20', and there is a room of about 18'x15' which
is carpeted and has a counter/cabinets in it which is available to place a
long table and chairs for meeting space (no extra charge, btw). separate
male/female toilets are on the first level.
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omni
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response 163 of 561:
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Jul 7 17:40 UTC 1996 |
But how is the rent?
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scott
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response 164 of 561:
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Jul 7 18:28 UTC 1996 |
The rent is something Grex will likely have to pay, probably around $100/mo
plus electricity. The space is pretty close to ideal, aside from not being
rent-free. ;)
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janc
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response 165 of 561:
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Jul 7 19:28 UTC 1996 |
11 foot ceilings! Wow! I'm so excited! We'd have high ceilings!
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robh
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response 166 of 561:
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Jul 7 20:05 UTC 1996 |
Yeah! Then we could put five feet of concrete on the floor
and be in the exact same mess we are now! >8)
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srw
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response 167 of 561:
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Jul 8 05:55 UTC 1996 |
?!
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rcurl
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response 168 of 561:
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Jul 8 07:25 UTC 1996 |
Dry? We thought our basement was dry, until the city sewer back up. Check
out the sewers very carefully. Five feet of water is more likely than
five feet of concrete.....
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ewhisam
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response 169 of 561:
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Jul 8 22:05 UTC 1996 |
wow
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janc
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response 170 of 561:
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Jul 9 03:35 UTC 1996 |
We should put a rowboat in the basement, and keep the sun in it, in case of
floods.
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n8nxf
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response 171 of 561:
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Jul 9 12:10 UTC 1996 |
(No, put Grex in the rowboat and have the building inspector come over to
see if it's still considered office space.)
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mdw
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response 172 of 561:
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Jul 11 07:17 UTC 1996 |
The Ann Arbor zoning commission makes a distinction between residential,
commercial, industrial, and agricultural uses, as well as size, grade,
income bracket, incidental vegetation, and other factors. None of those
matter in the slightest to grex, other than when it means we can't be
there. There is, however, one other space that might make sense for
grex - the corner of a large warehouse or factor floor. That's actually
where grex started out, the only problem is that it's generally harder
to share such spaces.
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meg
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response 173 of 561:
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Jul 11 16:15 UTC 1996 |
Drift.
So it's July 11. What's the current status?
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scott
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response 174 of 561:
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Jul 11 16:37 UTC 1996 |
At last night's staff meeting we discussed the status a bit. Srw is looking
into some possible donated space, but didn't want to rush it. He'll be
following up by the end of this week.
The commercial space we've looked at is promising, and if we don't get donated
space we'll just get that space, at more money than we'd like (but it's still
better than going out of business).
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