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davel
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response 150 of 470:
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Apr 16 20:10 UTC 1996 |
"another"??
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rcurl
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response 151 of 470:
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Apr 16 21:16 UTC 1996 |
NO! NO! NO! Don't restart info. I rely upon it for answers very often. It
is useful *because it is huge*. Now, if you would like to put it in order,
and categories, and strip out the idle chatter and permanently useless
info, then that would be useful. ("permanently useless" would be computer
stuff from before 1970...maybe.)
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dang
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response 152 of 470:
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Apr 16 21:26 UTC 1996 |
Now that would be good. Last time I tried to do a find, it took forever.
Being able to, say, read an item that was about what it's title said it was
about, or finding all the info about siemthing together would be nice.
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kerouac
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response 153 of 470:
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Apr 16 22:56 UTC 1996 |
I think conferencing is an important enough sub-component of grex as a
system that discussions concerning it warrant its own conference. If
there was some huge space problem, *maybe* you could re-vamp info or
something, but right now there's no point. I regard being a fair witness
as being as important a role as being a helper on grex, and helpers have
a conference to share their views and problems.
For Grex to have an area to itself where conferencing can be discussed
would underscore that the board,staff and members of grex view this
aspect of the system to be particularly important.
This conf could include easy-access lists of fw- commands, occasional
updates on conferencing activity (the list STeve posted earlier), and
the conference proposal and conference creation item. There could also
be kept there a list of who the fw's of each conference are and
descriptons of each conference. If the Intro conf ever gets off the
ground, new users sent there could be directed to this conf for a more
detailed introduction to conferencing. This conf would serve as a
vehicle to make the other confs more accessible. It would be a place to
promote the other confs.
Coop is mainly about system problems and board issues. People get confused
when they see conferencing discussed in COOP and get the impression that
the board runs the conferencing. Since conferencing and the Board have
NOTHING to do with each other, creating a separate conference for
all conferencing discussion is perfectly logical.
Better name! Call it "The Grex Conferencing Center" or "ConfCentral"
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kerouac
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response 154 of 470:
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Apr 17 00:02 UTC 1996 |
In theory, "a conferencing central" could supercede the Intro conf once
new users become acclimated and decide they dont need to see that at
login anymore. I'm thinking the login screen for it could point to an
early conf central item that would promote hot items in other confs.
I really think you'd see a great improvement eventually in conf participation
with this in place. An appropriate vehicle for other confs to be promoted
has been needed for a while. Such items just get lost in Agora.
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nephi
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response 155 of 470:
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Apr 17 05:33 UTC 1996 |
I like the idea of a fair witnesses conference. When I first became a fair
witness, I went over to M-net and read theirs. It was very informative for
me and gave me the confidence to start.
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remmers
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response 156 of 470:
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Apr 17 10:30 UTC 1996 |
A fairwitness conference that serves as an information resource and
place to ask questions about fw'ing would be fine. I'd like to see
policy issues regarding conferencing stay in coop, though. Grex
isn't so big that it needs that kind of fragmentation.
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carson
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response 157 of 470:
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Apr 17 11:29 UTC 1996 |
ditto remmers, well-educated chap that he is.
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brighn
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response 158 of 470:
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Apr 17 16:36 UTC 1996 |
Someone accused Selena of having trashed all of the old Sex items
completely. *inhales* I didn't think she'd do such a thing.
But I didn't know where they went.
Rob asked me to list some items for linking from Sex II,
and I have to admit I never noticed that the new item numbers
had jumped dramatically since the crosslinks. But a browse
showed the numbers jumping from the 80s to the 150s, with nothing
in between.
In short, the old sexuality item are in Sexulaity II, retired
and numbered consecutively... b retired to see them.
(The OLD sexuality items, that is... the ones from Robh's tenure.
The ones from Sel's tenure immediately precede them, unretired.)
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kerouac
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response 159 of 470:
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Apr 18 01:14 UTC 1996 |
well of course policy issues regarding conferencing could be linked
between coop and a confcentral. I wasnt saying they shouldnt be in
coop, just that they can be presented better in this sort of light,
where they will get more attention.
I'd like to see this get off the ground as the same time as the intro conf
that Robh is developing. I'll volunteer to start it if someone wants to
volunteer as cofw ( I was thinking of scott, since the cfadmin is a
logical person to be involved in running a conf central), and if there is
a consensus that this is worth trying. This is going to be a official
conf like coop, one that belongs to the system for the purpose of
promoting conferencing and fostering a relationship among the confs.
Snce its obvious noone really wants any formal guidelines involving
confs, establishing an informal network of sorts where what can be
accomplished through confing is discussed and where fair witnesses can
discuss their problems, is a good idea.
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scott
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response 160 of 470:
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Apr 18 10:47 UTC 1996 |
I'd rather not FW a conferencing conference.
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dang
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response 161 of 470:
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Apr 18 18:40 UTC 1996 |
I'll cofw a cf on conferencing.
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sidhe
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response 162 of 470:
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Apr 21 04:05 UTC 1996 |
Interesting.. i just looked in on the "new" Sexuality- andd all of the old
items are there- every single last one of them, carefully retired and
preserved. I think someone owes Selena an apology..
And I'm glad it's not me!
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brighn
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response 163 of 470:
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Apr 21 04:50 UTC 1996 |
*doubts th apology will be forthcoming*
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mdw
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response 164 of 470:
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Apr 21 09:14 UTC 1996 |
I just as soon not see a separate "fw" conference.
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scott
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response 165 of 470:
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Apr 21 12:37 UTC 1996 |
<scott apologizes for saying that the items were "gone forever">
Thanks!
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kerouac
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response 166 of 470:
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Apr 21 23:39 UTC 1996 |
#164....mdw, why? an fw conf wouldnt hurt anything
The world conf is being melded into the Politics conf, which is going to
be renamed the Current Events conf. Omni and I will be co-fw's.
All the current items in "World" are going to be linked to storage conf
and retired.
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kerouac
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response 167 of 470:
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Apr 22 00:16 UTC 1996 |
I have a question...since World is being discontinued in its current form,
is there a way to make it so that anyone who has .world2.cf in their cflist
automatically gets the new incarnation? Is there a way to say do a
global file change so that all instances of .world2.cf file names are
changed to .politics.cf? I just dont want to lose anyone who has
world in their cflist, and this might happen if people have to change
their lists manually.
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scg
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response 168 of 470:
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Apr 22 05:25 UTC 1996 |
You don't want to rename the participation files. That would be bad, I think
(somebody should correct me if I'm wrong). However, it's conference names,
not participation files, that are listed in a .cflist. A conference can have
multiple names, such that the politics conference could be joinable as both
"world" and "politics." Therefore, anybody who has world in their .cflist,
or types "j world" would get into the politics conference. I think that's
what you're asking for.
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popcorn
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response 169 of 470:
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Apr 22 05:30 UTC 1996 |
Re finding things in the info conference: Actually, the fastest way to find
things in there is to go to a Unix shell, change directory to /bbs/info, and
do a grep on the file name _* (underscore asterisk). Each item is stored
there in a file with an underscore and the same name as its item number. For
example, info item 16 would be in a file named _16.
Re 167: The names ".world2.cf" and ".politics.cf" are participation files.
You wouldn't want those to be linked across, since they contain information
about specific item numbers. Rather, what you want is for the alias "world"
to get you to the politics conference. That's the right way (tm) to do it;
it'll work.
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davel
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response 170 of 470:
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Apr 22 10:36 UTC 1996 |
If you do such a grep, probably you want grep -i to ignore case.
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scott
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response 171 of 470:
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Apr 22 10:56 UTC 1996 |
Actually, somebody who followed the HSex conf say a year ago ought to check...
I did check, and though there ought to be some items I recalled, but I didn't
really follow that conference. There are some true classics buried in other
items, like the "Summer Camp Situation".
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carson
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response 172 of 470:
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Apr 22 11:28 UTC 1996 |
that might have been one of the ones I swiped prior to the FWship
being handed from robh to mdw & selena. I'm certain that I swiped
at least one "menage a trois" item.
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popcorn
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response 173 of 470:
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Apr 22 13:57 UTC 1996 |
#168 slipped in, but Grex didn't tell me.
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brighn
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response 174 of 470:
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Apr 23 00:06 UTC 1996 |
(brighn accts scott's apology on behalf of his wife and disappears again)
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