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janc
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response 150 of 177:
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Oct 9 00:10 UTC 1996 |
I'm not sure why you're sighing. Anonymous reading is not enabled.
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nephi
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response 151 of 177:
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Oct 9 04:09 UTC 1996 |
Little quibble here . . . For simplicity's sake, would it be
possible for someone to make a directory called "backtalk" in
the directory where "backtalk.html" is currently located and
then put the contents of "backtalk.html" in a file called
"backtalk/index.html", such that the URL for backtalk will be
"http://www.cyberspace.org/backtalk"?
It seems like this would be a much "slicker" URL . . .
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dang
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response 152 of 177:
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Oct 9 15:29 UTC 1996 |
Yeah, I was going to suggest that too.
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brighn
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response 153 of 177:
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Oct 9 21:45 UTC 1996 |
#150> No offence, Jan, but it's only a matter of time before it is... such
is the way of erosion.
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popcorn
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response 154 of 177:
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Oct 9 22:32 UTC 1996 |
That depends on how the users vote. Which reminds me: I need to enter an item
to start a vote on that issue.
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ladyevil
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response 155 of 177:
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Oct 10 03:28 UTC 1996 |
I'm with brighn.
Let's just say I'm not really confident.
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srw
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response 156 of 177:
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Oct 10 06:57 UTC 1996 |
You aren't confident that the members of Grex will do the right thing?
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tsty
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response 157 of 177:
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Oct 10 09:16 UTC 1996 |
fewer tah 100 out of over 14000 doesn't affect much.
and the net connection sloooooooooooooooows down some more (re#144).
i really didn't think i had to mention *that* actualization as well.
i guess i am surprised again.
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ladyevil
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response 158 of 177:
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Oct 12 20:33 UTC 1996 |
No, Mr. Weiss. I am not confident that they will vote the way I would, in
great enough numbers. I am glad that I could clarify that for you. Is there
anything else I can do for you, while I'm up?
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srw
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response 159 of 177:
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Oct 13 04:41 UTC 1996 |
If the people who support Grex and I disagree (don't think this hasn't
happened), I lose the argument. I have learned to live with that.
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arthurp
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response 160 of 177:
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Oct 15 04:36 UTC 1996 |
If everything about grex bugs you so much, than why are you always here?
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davel
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response 161 of 177:
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Oct 15 13:17 UTC 1996 |
(Selena? or Steve?) 8-{)]
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brighn
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response 162 of 177:
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Oct 15 21:44 UTC 1996 |
(maybe he was talking to tsty, dave)
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ladyevil
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response 163 of 177:
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Oct 16 01:02 UTC 1996 |
I'll be nice and assume he wasn't talking to me.. otherwise it might BUG me..
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kerouac
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response 164 of 177:
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Oct 16 19:40 UTC 1996 |
IWLTA that I'm typing via backtalk! Unfortunately I'm out of town on an alien
computer with an inferior web browser, but even so Backtalk is REALLY slow. I
probably wont even finish reading the new coop messages, because the first item
took fifteen minutes to load and this item more than 10. Backtalk runs much
faster on HVCN...is this because of trying to communicate with Picospan?
Anyway I like the look of it. Only real problem, other than slowness, was that
I was unable to use the Vanilla interface despite several attempts. Vanilla
would bring up the conference menu and then freeze up, refusing to cough up any
particular conferences. So Im using Pistachio, which I'd rather not be since
Im using some lousy software at the moment. But nothing looks messy or
anything. I wouldnt recommend putting up a pointer to this right now if it
continues to be this slow. If Backtalk were human, I'd say give it some
amphetamines!
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ryan1
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response 165 of 177:
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Oct 16 19:55 UTC 1996 |
The reason it is slow is because of the tiny 28.8 Grex has.
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scg
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response 166 of 177:
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Oct 16 20:27 UTC 1996 |
(Is wordwrap supposed to be handled by backtalk or the web browser?)
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janc
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response 167 of 177:
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Oct 16 20:44 UTC 1996 |
Re #164: It's not the interaction with Picospan that makes Backtalk
slower here than on HVCN. HVCN is running on Isthmus's Sparc 10.
Since Isthmus is an ISP they have a good fast net connection. Not
only is Grex's net connection much slower, Our Sun 4 is much slower,
and much more heavily loaded. Backtalk isn't going to get any faster
until we get a faster connection or a faster CPU (preferably both).
There is no question that speed issues are going to limit the audience
for Backtalk.
Re #166: Vanilla does its own wordwrap, Pistachio doesn't, because
when I originally wrote it, I was assuming it was only going to be
used with high-class browsers. Since I've added enough low-class
browser support in that Richard was able to use it, I guess I ought to
include wordwrap.
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tsty
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response 168 of 177:
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Oct 18 08:59 UTC 1996 |
would a double wordwrapping function create any prbllmes?
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janc
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response 169 of 177:
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Oct 18 15:46 UTC 1996 |
No, just munch some extra CPU.
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tsty
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response 170 of 177:
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Oct 18 19:46 UTC 1996 |
cool
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kerouac
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response 171 of 177:
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Oct 20 18:37 UTC 1996 |
Backtalk notes...I was reading coop through backtalk yesterday, using
Vanilla, when there was a power outage at my place. When I got back on,
I expected the newresponses to still be new, as is usual in picospan
when you get booted off midway through. But Backtalk seemed to have
cleared all the newresponses as if I had actually finished reading them.
As slow as backtalk can be at times, I'd hate to keep missing
newresponses because I abort before reading them all.
Also, the motd shows up in pistachio, but not Vanilla-- is this on
purpose to encourage more people to use Pistachio?
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scg
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response 172 of 177:
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Oct 20 18:49 UTC 1996 |
As I understand things, BackTalk shows you the whole item at once, and once
it's sent it to you it has to assume you've read it. The web really isn't
advanced enough for Grex to be able to tell how far you've scrolled down the
item, unfortunately. The only way I can think of to handle that would be to
make you click a next button every time you wanted to see the next response,
or something like that, but that sounds like a real pain.
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popcorn
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response 173 of 177:
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Oct 20 21:54 UTC 1996 |
One or both of the BackTalk interfaces has a button on each response that you
can press to say "this is the last response I actually read". That way, if
you don't page forward to the end of the item, you can still save responses
as "new" to read them later. However, if your browser crashes, it's not like
you could press that button.
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mta
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response 174 of 177:
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Oct 20 23:32 UTC 1996 |
But since, when I get very far behind, it often takes me two or three sessions
to get all the way through an item I *love* that feature!! No more lost
little trips of paper with cryptic notes on them! ;)
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