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Grex > Coop7 > #75: You, too, can be a Grex Director! |  |
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lilmo
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response 150 of 198:
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Oct 1 21:00 UTC 1995 |
Before anyone gets steamed over #149, plz note that the situation adbarr is
supposedly decrying has already ocurred, to good results, and he knows that.
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adbarr
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response 151 of 198:
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Oct 1 22:05 UTC 1995 |
I beg to differ! Knows what? When did this happen? Why was I not consulted?
Oh heck. Next thing I know they will have Chem Profs and math majors on
there. Weiss, were you aware of this? :) <adbarr drivels on his drool>
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abchan
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response 152 of 198:
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Oct 2 01:25 UTC 1995 |
<g>
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scg
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response 153 of 198:
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Oct 2 01:37 UTC 1995 |
I wasn't a "computer professional" when I first decided to run for the board,
if that helps any.
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lilmo
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response 154 of 198:
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Oct 2 04:11 UTC 1995 |
Are you now?
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scg
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response 155 of 198:
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Oct 2 05:42 UTC 1995 |
Yes.
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selena
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response 156 of 198:
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Oct 2 17:29 UTC 1995 |
popcorn.. so that's still a racist thing to do.
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lilmo
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response 157 of 198:
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Oct 3 03:47 UTC 1995 |
Telling ppl that just b/c all the Grex directors are now white, and the vast
majority are male, doesn't mean that it has to stay that way is racist?
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selena
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response 158 of 198:
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Oct 3 04:58 UTC 1995 |
No, but saying that we are specifically encouraging people of color
to be board is.
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adbarr
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response 159 of 198:
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Oct 3 12:14 UTC 1995 |
Yup.
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popcorn
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response 160 of 198:
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Oct 3 13:20 UTC 1995 |
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adbarr
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response 161 of 198:
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Oct 3 14:34 UTC 1995 |
Ok. How about "racially oriented". You make a good point, vm. Racist
has certain negative (really negative) conotations that should not
be attributed lightly. Glad you said that.
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mlady
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response 162 of 198:
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Oct 3 16:38 UTC 1995 |
If they're not interested, they're not interested.
Look, let me tell you this: these guys don't want to be asked. they
see it as condescending. I know, 'cause that's what I hear when some
black guys are talking about inequality- That they don't want to be treated
ANY differently than anyone else, at all. They feel like you aren't interested
in them as people, just as some racial-diversity trophy, that you can point
at and say, "see, we're politically correct". Who'd want that?
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sidhe
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response 163 of 198:
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Oct 3 20:40 UTC 1995 |
Well, interestingly put.. I must say I _think_ I comprehend
the reasoning behind that.
Rane <from way back>- My definition of "getting around grex" must
be highly different from yours, as I am learning quite a bit from my
book.
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lilmo
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response 164 of 198:
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Oct 3 21:03 UTC 1995 |
If I were a member of a group whose leadership was almost exclusively female,
and was interested in a leadership position for myself, I think I would be
more inclined to try for it if there was some encouragement, even generalized,
from someone at the top...
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ajax
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response 165 of 198:
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Oct 3 21:40 UTC 1995 |
Re #162, you overstate the homogeneity of black opinion - members of the same
race have been known to hold different beliefs. An obvious analogy is the
variety of opinion regarding "affirmative action;" some want quotas, some
want none of it (i.e. "they don't want to be treated ANY differently," as
you put it).
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mlady
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response 166 of 198:
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Oct 4 01:24 UTC 1995 |
Hey, I'm just relating my expeience. This one guy was so mad at
his boss- he thought he got the job 'cause he was qualified, and found
out later it was to fill a quota. He quit.
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selena
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response 167 of 198:
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Oct 4 05:37 UTC 1995 |
Ow! Let's not have Board members quitting because of stuff like that!
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popcorn
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response 168 of 198:
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Oct 4 11:38 UTC 1995 |
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mdw
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response 169 of 198:
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Oct 5 05:47 UTC 1995 |
For whatever it counts; while there are abrasive users, they should not
be counted as the majority. That doesn't mean they should be ignored,
but it does mean they should be kept in perspective; for every abrasive
user there are 20 silent types, and the real trick is to figure out what
they think and to come up with solutions people can at least respect,
and ideally will be pleased to live with. It's impossible to please
everyone all the time, but the only thing worse than attempting to
please the unpleasable is to give up in despair. Which is all just a
very long way of saying I think Valerie has done an outstanding job for
grex, and I hope she'll continue to find the patience.
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popcorn
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response 170 of 198:
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Oct 5 23:05 UTC 1995 |
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lilmo
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response 171 of 198:
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Oct 6 17:15 UTC 1995 |
Re #169: I can second that.
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mlady
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response 172 of 198:
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Oct 6 19:09 UTC 1995 |
Hey, kudos, okay?
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selena
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response 173 of 198:
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Oct 7 05:02 UTC 1995 |
<hug popcorn>
You deserve that. You do *do* a lot here, thank you!
But, I still can't agree with the idea of seeking out people for their
*physical* characteristics. It, by iteslf might not be strong enough
to be racist, but it can lead to *bad* habits..
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popcorn
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response 174 of 198:
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Oct 8 13:05 UTC 1995 |
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