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sarkhel
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response 150 of 186:
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Jun 12 05:21 UTC 2002 |
Though socially forbidden but is it really bad to have sexual attraction
between cousines or have some sexual intimacy, in case of accidental
situation?
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jaklumen
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response 151 of 186:
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Jun 12 07:37 UTC 2002 |
accidental situation? Oh, get real. Sex is hardly an accident.
Although sexual relations between first cousins may be a social taboo,
it's generally understood risks of genetic defects is high among
relatives that close.
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vmskid
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response 152 of 186:
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Jun 12 12:23 UTC 2002 |
The risk is probably overstated.
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jaklumen
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response 153 of 186:
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Jun 12 14:11 UTC 2002 |
Probably. Part of the social taboo, I think, springs from when
extended families were a little closer.
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twinkie
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response 154 of 186:
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Jun 12 14:17 UTC 2002 |
Okay...okay...as much as I've tried to distance myself from the "Let's bash
Grex!" crowd...you wouldn't see people (meaning: more than one person) on
M-Net trying to justify getting it on with your cousin.
Sure, getting it on with underaged girls was the norm there for a while, but
most of our famous pedos migrated here. Now I see why.
You're all kinkmonsters!
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orinoco
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response 155 of 186:
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Jun 12 14:39 UTC 2002 |
What I've heard agrees with what vmskid and lumen are saying -- the children
of first cousins aren't at much more risk for genetic defects than children
of two unrelated parents. The risk comes in when that sort of inbreeding
happens generation after generation.
The problem is, taboos aren't situation-dependent like that. It's hard to
imagine a stable set of norms that would respect inbreeding unless too many
other people in the family have already done it. And a group in which
inbreeding is strictly unacceptable will do better in the long run than a
group that always accepts it, so the taboo against inbreeding tends to win
out.
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brighn
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response 156 of 186:
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Jun 12 14:40 UTC 2002 |
Thanks for the compliment, twinkie.
I don't even consider sex among first cousins to be all that taboo, although
I don't think I'd do it, just because I don't know any of my cousins. My first
sexual fantasy was about my adopted first cousin, but I was 10 or so. That
was a long time ago.
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brighn
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response 157 of 186:
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Jun 12 14:42 UTC 2002 |
#155> Sex needn't involve inbreeding. Ironically, though, I recently noticed
that, while sex *between* siblings is very taboo, sex with identical twins
(I saw the Olson twins on Leno last night, and they're growing up sexy... and
they're a few months from being legal) seems to be a common fantasy among men.
Taboos may have a rational origin, but they rarely remain rational.
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fitz
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response 158 of 186:
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Jun 12 20:25 UTC 2002 |
I heard a report on All Things Considered that there is an article this year
in the Genetics Journal analysing the rate of genetic defects in the progeny
of cousins compared to unfamilial couplings. I believe that the rate of
genetic defects in first cousin couplings is around 7% where as the rate of
defects is about 5% for the general population.
The report continued on to say that cultural influences had more to do with
making first cousin pair taboo than any consideration for the well-being of
the offspring. Also, the report gave some examples of cultures where first
cousing pairs are the norm.
Sex between identical twins is certainly problematic, but I don't think the
incestuous pairing will result in polydactyl progeny--ever.
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twinkie
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response 159 of 186:
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Jun 12 20:28 UTC 2002 |
Who funded that research? Someone in British royalty?
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lynne
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response 160 of 186:
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Jun 12 20:30 UTC 2002 |
I knew someone who slept with his cousin and claimed that since there was no
procreation involved, it was okay. I still thought it was really disgusting.
Then again, all of my cousins are really ugly, so I'm biased. :)
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flem
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response 161 of 186:
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Jun 12 20:40 UTC 2002 |
Actually, twinkie, I'm pretty sure it was arbornet. <cough>
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twinkie
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response 162 of 186:
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Jun 12 20:44 UTC 2002 |
Oh please. The Ruggs haven't been on M-Net in years!
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jmsaul
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response 163 of 186:
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Jun 12 20:44 UTC 2002 |
Arbornet couldn't fund a dinner at Escoffier. If you're going to insult us,
come up with something credible.
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slynne
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response 164 of 186:
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Jun 12 20:53 UTC 2002 |
Hell, Arbornet would have trouble funding a dinner at Denny's much less
Escoffier ;)
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twinkie
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response 165 of 186:
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Jun 12 20:58 UTC 2002 |
Would have? Try has had.
How many times have there been unwitting M-Netters left with a hefty tab,
because other people ducked out before the check arrived?
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slynne
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response 166 of 186:
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Jun 12 21:09 UTC 2002 |
See, that is the proof!
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bru
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response 167 of 186:
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Jun 13 04:37 UTC 2002 |
First generation may be okay, but then you get to second, third,
fourth,...etc. and suddenly they have eight eyes and like having wierd sex.
The reason for the inbreeding sexual taboo is that farther down the line you
end up with problems.
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happyboy
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response 168 of 186:
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Jun 13 18:17 UTC 2002 |
LIKE BRU! 8D
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fitz
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response 169 of 186:
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Jun 14 20:13 UTC 2002 |
Re #158> I seem to be putting some of my foot in my mouth, for I have been
unable to confirm the broadcast that I say I heard. I am now certain that
I did not hear it on All Things Considered. I know that I was tuned to
WUOM-FM. It's a mystery: I was looking for the broadcast log of this story
in order to get the exact numbers mentioned.
A check of GENETICS only showed a journal article on consanguinous marriage
that was published in 1956.
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cmcgee
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response 170 of 186:
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Jun 14 20:20 UTC 2002 |
Actually, I saw a newspaper article about it, maybe a few months ago?
Short two-three paragraph thing.
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fitz
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response 171 of 186:
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Jun 16 14:40 UTC 2002 |
Thanks, McGee. I didn't think I was daydreaming.
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sarkhel
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response 172 of 186:
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Jun 16 20:42 UTC 2002 |
The marraige between cousines are acceptable among Muslims (there may be other
religion too) and some part of south of India.The study was condusted and the
findings were horrible.The genetic disorder is highest among Muslims and that
part of India.I heard that such system was prevailing among Inkas too.This
may be to avoid loosing of family wealth.
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sarkhel
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response 173 of 186:
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Jun 16 20:49 UTC 2002 |
condusted/conducted
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gull
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response 174 of 186:
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Jun 17 13:54 UTC 2002 |
Re #169: I remember hearing that story, too. Maybe it was on the Todd Mundt
Show?
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