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aaron
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response 150 of 168:
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Apr 28 16:31 UTC 2001 |
What happens with a lot of chains, particularly when there is a somewhat
complicated product to make, is that the franchise provides an initial
management team to get the franchise off the ground, followed by the
local management assuming responsibility for the operation. Although
steam ovens provide what is probably the simplest means of baking bagels,
you still need fresh dough. You still cannot let the dough sit out to long,
sit in the cooler too long, or sit in the freezer too long. You have to
sometimes take a hit on the unused dough, rather than baking dough that
won't make good bagels. Given the margins in food service, and the levels
of pay usually afforded to baking staff, those aren't small issues.
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lumen
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response 151 of 168:
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Nov 26 08:29 UTC 2005 |
resp:141 Cutco makes a sandwich spreader knife that is great for cutting
bagels.
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denise
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response 152 of 168:
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May 6 08:08 UTC 2007 |
So where are the good bagel shops in the AA area these days [especially
outside the campus/downtown area]? When I was in Durham, there were a
number of Bruegger's in the area but I haven't seen any at all since
moving back here a year ago.
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slynne
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response 153 of 168:
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May 6 15:14 UTC 2007 |
There is a Bruegger's in that shopping center at the corner of Ann Arbor
Saline Road and Main St. I think there is also one on N. University
downtown.
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tod
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response 154 of 168:
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May 6 16:03 UTC 2007 |
There's a Bagel Fragel in Plymouth.
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i
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response 155 of 168:
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May 7 09:56 UTC 2007 |
There's a Bagel Fragel on Plymouth (just east of Murfin).
Zingerman's makes bagels.
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slynne
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response 156 of 168:
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May 7 13:23 UTC 2007 |
There is something not quite right about Zingerman's bagels but I can
never really put my finger on it. There is also Barry's Bagels too.
Their bagels are ok but I like Bruegger's better
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tod
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response 157 of 168:
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May 7 19:52 UTC 2007 |
Zingerman's probably doesn't boil them correctly. I've seen very few bakeries
that also did bagels correctly.
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slynne
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response 158 of 168:
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May 8 01:16 UTC 2007 |
That's the problem with the bagels at Panera. They are good but just not
bagel enough
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edina
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response 159 of 168:
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May 8 16:33 UTC 2007 |
We have this line of bagels out here called Chompie's. They are
awful. I don't even call them bagels - they are glorified dinner
rolls. My only recourse is pretty much Einstein Bagels.
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tod
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response 160 of 168:
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May 8 17:20 UTC 2007 |
I got some bagels at an Italian bakery in Melvindale one time and they were
EXACTLY like italian sandwich rolls in taste and texture. It was my day to
get the bagels at Ford and my co-workers laughed for weeks about it.
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slynne
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response 161 of 168:
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May 9 02:38 UTC 2007 |
Well, I know that when I visit my friend Shannon in Sebastopol,
California, there isnt a good bagel to be had anywhere. It seems odd too
since there are a lot of people who used to live in NYC there. You would
think that there would be a market for good bagels there.
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cmcgee
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response 162 of 168:
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May 18 17:05 UTC 2007 |
The people at the Plymouth/Murfin bagel shop are the legitmate inheritors of
the Bagel Factory fragel trademark. Dunno about how well they make bagels,
though.
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glenda
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response 163 of 168:
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May 21 05:48 UTC 2007 |
From what I understand, the person at the Plymouth/Murfin bagel shop (The
Bagel Fragel?) is the son of the original Bagel Factory owner.
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tod
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response 164 of 168:
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May 21 18:09 UTC 2007 |
I wrote up the dissertation elsewhere but will have to hunt it down. Don't
have time to go into the historics.
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tod
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response 165 of 168:
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May 21 18:12 UTC 2007 |
re #162 & 163
Here is my response to item 9 on M-Net's Ypsi/A2 cf:
#11 I.P. Freehly (tod) Wed, May 2, 2007 (18:04):
I worked with Natasha at Bagel Factory back in the early 90's. She opened
up Bagel Fragel on Plymouth Rd and continues the tradition. We used to work
late all nighters with Mike Kolko. Kolko was managing the place for the owner
(and my landlord of the house on Dewey) Peter Johnson (aka Vidouris.) Peter
Johnson learned his bagel trade from some of my grandfather's childhood chums
from Detroit and opened the original Bagel Factory in Southfield. Then, he
got into business with Barry Greenblatt for the one on South U. Barry had
brought in Kolko (my boss.) Barry later had a falling out with Peter and
opened Barry Bagels. Peter was pissed. He once threatened tsty for calling
the housing commission on him because I was living in the basement of one of
his rentals and blah blah..long story there. Anyway, Peter moved his
franchise to Toledo and Kolko tried a go of it himself for a while. I
delivered the bagels (took trex a few times) all around SE Michigan. That
was a cool job but it was 7 days a week from 1am to 9am and wore me down.
It was fun being a part of bagel history. Those guys were tough mf'ers.
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cmcgee
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response 166 of 168:
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Jun 14 21:42 UTC 2007 |
Stopped by the Bagel Fragel a few weeks ago, and there was a sign on the door
saying family difficulties, would be closed a few days, and reopen under new
managment. Haven been by since then, but I'll try to get there soon for an
update.
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slynne
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response 167 of 168:
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Jun 15 00:41 UTC 2007 |
I havent been there in years
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cmcgee
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response 168 of 168:
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Jun 27 14:41 UTC 2007 |
Went by the Bagel Fragel on Plymouth Road again. Good news for bagel
purists!
It's open again, and still run by the same family. Slight change in
some of the accoutrements, but otherwise same menu of handmade, old
style bagels.
Don't know the address, but it is in the strip shopping mall on the
south side of Plymouth Road where the north end of Broadway intersects.
Next to the Shell station.
Across the street is the bigger mall with all the wonderful Turkish and
Middle Eastern bakeries, restaurants, and food stores, Wendy's and Cafe
Marie.
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