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response 15 of 58:
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Oct 21 15:11 UTC 2003 |
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remmers
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response 16 of 58:
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Oct 21 16:05 UTC 2003 |
Conservatives who are not idiots: William Safire, George Will.
They can be real asses at times, but that's a different job category.
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rcurl
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response 17 of 58:
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Oct 21 16:35 UTC 2003 |
They do use big words, so I guess that qualifies them as non-idiots.
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sabre
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response 18 of 58:
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Oct 21 17:13 UTC 2003 |
Most liberals are idiots in classification #2
The others fit catergory #1 pf this definition quite nicely
Etymology: Middle English, from Latin idiota ignorant person, from Greek
idiOtEs one in a private station, layman, ignorant person, from idios one's
own, private; akin to Latin suus one's own -- more at SUICIDE
Date: 14th century
1 : a person affected with idiocy; especially : a feebleminded person having
a mental age not exceeding three years and requiring complete custodial care
2 : a foolish or stupid person
There are exceptions however. Slick Willy being the prime example.
I would classify him as idiot-savant(definition given for remmers sake)
Afer all..a MORON as stupid as him did have the gift of gab that got him
elected to the world's most powerful office twice.
Etymology: French, literally, learned idiot
Date: 1927
1 : a mentally defective person who exhibits exceptional skill or brilliance
in some limited field
2 : a person who is highly knowledgeable about one subject but knows little
about anything else
He fits category #2 nicely.
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rcurl
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response 19 of 58:
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Oct 21 17:17 UTC 2003 |
I think sabre misunderstands what is a liberal. Here is the definition,
plus one that seems to apply to him:
liberal (adj). 1. Possessing or manifesting a free and generous heart;
bountiful. 2. Appropriate or fitting for a broad and enlightened mind. 3.
Free from narrowness, bigotry, or bondage to authority or creed, as in
religion; inclined to democratic or republican ideas, as opposed to
monarchical or aristocratic, as in politics; broad, popular, progressive.
illiberal (adj.). 1. Not liberal; not generous in giving; parsimonious. 2.
Narrow-minded. 3. Lacking breadth of culture; hence, vulgar.
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sabre
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response 20 of 58:
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Oct 21 17:47 UTC 2003 |
rcurl you fit category #1 of the definition for idiot.
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rcurl
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response 21 of 58:
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Oct 21 19:18 UTC 2003 |
Typical illiberal sabre.
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gull
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response 22 of 58:
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Oct 21 19:26 UTC 2003 |
Re #16: I'd agree with that. While I might not agree with those two all
the time, I always get the impression that they've thought through their
position carefully and that they're taking it because they arrived at it
intellectually, not because it's shocking or fits a party line. This is
in stark contrast to newer conservative columnists like Ann Coulter.
George Will's column about the California Recall Election outcome was
scathingly anti-recall and anti-Arnold.
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jaklumen
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response 23 of 58:
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Oct 22 01:36 UTC 2003 |
resp:14 does what you mean by "swing voters" illict a "bite me"
response?
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sabre
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response 24 of 58:
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Oct 22 07:28 UTC 2003 |
It means after halloween we're gonna have some pumpkin pie!
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gull
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response 25 of 58:
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Oct 22 17:35 UTC 2003 |
Re #23: I'm not sure I follow your comment.
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bhelliom
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response 26 of 58:
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Oct 24 16:26 UTC 2003 |
I think Sabre should be president. After all, the first representative
in office of a given demographic is usually shot, right? Hell, I'm sure
a loon that happens to be an incredible marksman with a poor memory
beyond his obession wouldn't be too expensive to hire.
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sabre
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response 27 of 58:
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Oct 25 02:13 UTC 2003 |
I shall be sure to forward your comments to the secret service...they take
those kinds of veiled threats very seriously...you commie bastard.
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twenex
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response 28 of 58:
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Oct 26 00:51 UTC 2003 |
All Hail The Great McCarthy!
Get a life, right-wing dweeb.
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janc
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response 29 of 58:
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Oct 27 05:25 UTC 2003 |
I'll buy George Will as a conservative non-idiot. If he's the template
for a non-idiot, then the obvious choice for a liberal non-idiot would be
the columnist who alternates with him on the last page of Newsweek: Anna
Quindlen. Won the pulitizer prize for commentary in 1992. Wrote several
best selling novels. I don't think there's a political commentator working
who I think is more consistantly spot on. Here's a random sample essay:
http://stacks.msnbc.com/news/959312.asp. I love this line, talking about
those who advocate political change via violence:
[T]he problem with this is that it is ideology divorced from
humanity, empty as the transparent carapace of a cicada, the
living thing gone from within.
The image is startlingly exact. A political ideology without humanity at
it's core is essentially a dead thing. That kind of clear insight and
expressive writing is about as far as you can get from idiocy.
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gelinas
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response 30 of 58:
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Oct 27 12:01 UTC 2003 |
(I've not figured out if David Broder is liberal or conservative, but he's
not an idiot.)
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bhelliom
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response 31 of 58:
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Oct 28 20:42 UTC 2003 |
Like they'll actually take anything Sabre says seriously. *snort* We
don't.
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tsty
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response 32 of 58:
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Nov 2 10:36 UTC 2003 |
never take a phallic phantasy seriously - sabre, for example.
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janc
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response 33 of 58:
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Nov 2 15:32 UTC 2003 |
Hmmm...nobody seems willing to call Anna Quindlen an idiot. So how
about some easier ones, folks form the airy-fairy world of
entertainment? I'd suggest Paul Newman and Bill Cosby as further
examples of well-known liberals who are not idiots.
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md
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response 34 of 58:
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Nov 2 16:12 UTC 2003 |
Don Henley is an idiot, albeit a well-meaning one. He joined the
effort to save the woodland around Walden Pond from threatened
development, but in the process caused the Thoreau Society to go
Hollywood. They shut down the Thoreau Lyceum and moved out of Concord
and into a lavish hunt club in Lincoln, where they preen themselves on
their money and their "liberal" show biz connections. They went from
granola to granola in the worst way imaginable. Do you think Henley
might've foreseen this? No, because he's an idiot.
Tim and Susan Robbins are idiots. Tim accused the Baseball Hall of
Fame of depriving him of his Constitutional right to free speech by
disinviting him to speak there. He actually seemed to believe what he
was saying. Susan is a rich bubblehead-leftist who just goes along
with all the other rich bubblehead-leftists. In other words, she's an
accidental hypocrite. The word "idiot" could hardly be better defined.
Gloria Steinem has become an embarrassment to other idiots.
Back here on Grex, Rane Curl sounds exactly like an idiot when he
boasts for the umpteenth time, like some memory-damaged great-uncle you
dread visiting, of his discovery that according to his dictionary the
opposite of liberal is illiberal -- the geriatric equivalent of a
teenager discovering that God spelled backward is dog.
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tod
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Nov 2 17:07 UTC 2003 |
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jp2
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response 36 of 58:
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Nov 2 18:20 UTC 2003 |
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slynne
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response 37 of 58:
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Nov 2 18:47 UTC 2003 |
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slynne
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response 38 of 58:
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Nov 2 18:49 UTC 2003 |
#37 was the proof that I am an idiot and I am liberal. Whoa. Well, at
least I am not as much of an idiot as most of the folks around here ;)
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gull
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response 39 of 58:
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Nov 3 14:16 UTC 2003 |
Which Hollywood celebrity was it that went to Iraq, took a cursory
glance around, and then said he hadn't seen any WMD? He's an idiot.
Of course, the politicians who spend an afternoon in Iraq, flee to
Kuwait before nightfall, and then tell the journalists (who have been
living there day and night, getting bombed and shot at) that they're not
upbeat enough about the situation are also idiots.
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