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25 new of 333 responses total.
keesan
response 149 of 333: Mark Unseen   May 18 12:00 UTC 2006

The current twit has been logging in from se, de, and ru.  Is there some way
to put a quota on bbs entries (maybe 20 per hour, 1 per minute?).
nharmon
response 150 of 333: Mark Unseen   May 18 13:27 UTC 2006

I love how freedom of speech goes out the door for some people when it 
is inconvenient for them.

Twits, indeed.
slynne
response 151 of 333: Mark Unseen   May 18 13:29 UTC 2006

I certainly wouldnt mind something that would either discourage this 
person or make the aftermath less annoying. 
pfv
response 152 of 333: Mark Unseen   May 18 14:12 UTC 2006

Yes, pty's would (perhaps) solve it. I don't have an issue with a guy
feeding foo to bar several times. The problems are when the GD host sees
these idjits for a day or more, tying up up connectivity.

This screws up ssh and telnet only fixed it with a damned queue:
let's fix this or just let grex die an ignominious death - Bog knows the
bbs has gone to shit.
cross
response 153 of 333: Mark Unseen   May 18 14:27 UTC 2006

This response has been erased.

keesan
response 154 of 333: Mark Unseen   May 18 14:37 UTC 2006

The queue is not so much a problem as having to either wade past 147 blank
entries to read whatever has been posted since the last time I logged in, or
doing a fixseen and not reading anything.  Suing this idiot would be too
time-consuming.
other
response 155 of 333: Mark Unseen   May 18 14:52 UTC 2006

A better solution would be to improve the ignore feature in
backtalk/fronttalk so that items that have been modified by ignored
users do not register as modified unless thay have also been modified by
unignored users.  

That preserves the rights of users to post freely, and preserves the
interests of users in being selective about how they spend their time in
the conferences.
nharmon
response 156 of 333: Mark Unseen   May 18 14:58 UTC 2006

Suing? Good greif!
cross
response 157 of 333: Mark Unseen   May 18 15:12 UTC 2006

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slynne
response 158 of 333: Mark Unseen   May 18 15:38 UTC 2006

I think Eric's suggestion would work.
mcnally
response 159 of 333: Mark Unseen   May 18 17:20 UTC 2006

re #148:
>  Could someone please block the current twit's IP address?

She's using multiple IP addresses.

> I am tired of doing
 a fixseen every time before I would have read agora.

And you think the rest of us aren't?

re #140:
 I love how freedom of speech goes out the door for some people when it 
 is inconvenient for them.

What this vandal is doing isn't speech.  It's the metaphorical equivalent
of walking into our living room and taking a crap on the floor.  There's
no message, except for "look, I made a mess."  I see no reason to protect
such behavior, nor any threat to speech from suppressing such responses
when they are so clearly intended *only* to inconvenience and annoy.
As far as I'm concerned freedom of speech is satisfied by leaving the 
door open to welcome other users who do have something to say -- it does
not require that we leave a steaming pile in the middle of the floor and
pretend it's art.

However, there is the problem of lacking a practical method of suppression.
If we assume (as seems justified by the evidence we have seen so far) that
the vandal is willing to put a fair amount of effort into their vandalism.
Judging by her choice of name she is probably the same person who's been
kicked off of at least two other forums that I know of and probably many
more that we don't know about.  She logs in from different IP address ranges
(not just different IP addresses, but notably different ranges) indicating
an intention to circumvent IP-address based blocking, and has created 
multiple accounts to make twit filtering inconvenient:  in my opinion
improving twit filtering might help in other cases but this person is
near pathological and will just create a new login for each wave of postings,
requiring twit filter users to keep updating their twit list.  I'm open
to ideas that people believe will be effective but please try to imagine
yourself in the vandal's place before you make a suggestion and consider
whether it could be easily circumvented.

keesan
response 160 of 333: Mark Unseen   May 18 18:19 UTC 2006

Shoot to kill.  (keesan for jdeigert)
tod
response 161 of 333: Mark Unseen   May 18 19:30 UTC 2006

I encountered this same gnaa lame scripting on some of my web forums and had
to turn off guest posting priviledges in order to thwart a full on script
which will probably propagate hoodia and viagara to the hilt.  Trust me, these
are guestbook scripters looking for 1 or 2 suckers out of a few hundred.  I
recommend simple forensics and complaint email to their open relay/anon
providers and hosts.  They may be able to track the bouncing IP from a dsl
somewhere in the USA.  Then we can slap them with some aggressive legal
standards like 18USC1030.a5A(i) for transmitting with intention to cause
damage to...blah blah..

This all assumes any of the staff on Grex have the motivation for such things.
other
response 162 of 333: Mark Unseen   May 18 21:46 UTC 2006

gnaa.com is obviously a site which exists for the explicit purpose of
inciting and encouraging web forum trolling.  
Since even aggressive site-wide blocking would be labor-intensive, slow
and likely ineffective, the simplest approach would be to add more
aggressive user blocking options that each user can easily implement for
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tod
response 163 of 333: Mark Unseen   May 18 22:45 UTC 2006

Uhh..the person dind't originate from gnaa, they only referenced it.

tarbaby
response 164 of 333: Mark Unseen   May 18 23:17 UTC 2006

TROGG IS DAVID BLAINE
naftee
response 165 of 333: Mark Unseen   May 19 02:27 UTC 2006

we should start suing david blane
tod
response 166 of 333: Mark Unseen   May 19 16:43 UTC 2006

Don't give Other more ideas!
*snort*
garyn
response 167 of 333: Mark Unseen   May 19 23:40 UTC 2006

this board is impossible to trlol
garyn
response 168 of 333: Mark Unseen   May 19 23:40 UTC 2006

this board is impossible to trlol
rcurl
response 169 of 333: Mark Unseen   May 20 23:18 UTC 2006

I recently had a problem that I referred to staff, and received the following
automated reply:

"This is an automatic reply to tell you that your message to the Grex 
staff was received.  Mail to the (all-volunteer) staff is usually answered 
only on the weekends, so it may be up to a week before you receive a reply 
to your message.  But your message *is* in the queue and the staff does 
intend to answer it.  If you sent a question about Grex, you may be able 
to find the answer faster by looking in the list of Frequently Asked 
Questions about Grex at http://www.cyberspace.org/faq.html

"If you asked to have your password reset, please make sure you included 
the user ID of your Grex account.  If you didn't send your user ID, please 
send another message to staff to tell us your user ID. Do not send your 
password.

"Note that Grex will send out this message only once every 30 days, even 
if you send mail to staff more often than that.

"-The Grex Staff"

I certainly understand the problems of volunteer organizations, and 
appreciate efforts of the volunteer Grex staff. But I do feel it would 
benefit Grex if inquiries to staff can be addressed more rapidly. We all 
get frustrated with difficulties in obtaining (or not obtaining, or great 
delays in obtaining) responses from companies. It would be nice if Grex 
was more friendly toward users. Perhaps the responsibility for responding 
within 24 hours could be passed among staff members, say for a week each? 
Or perhaps mail to staff to go to a non-staff volunteer, who would assist 
if possible, or pass the inquiry or problems on to a staff member that is 
"on call" at that time?
gaynigger
response 170 of 333: Mark Unseen   May 21 02:48 UTC 2006

this board is impossible to trlol
camwhorejax
response 171 of 333: Mark Unseen   May 22 07:54 UTC 2006

hi it's me i'm a camwhore
keesan
response 172 of 333: Mark Unseen   May 22 14:26 UTC 2006

The latest trashing was 3:54 a. m..  I will be reading agora just before
bedtime and doing a fixseen in the morning.

Would it help to turn off newuser for a while?  Or only allow new users to
read most items and post in just one item until they prove that they can
behave themselves?  (And somehow limit new users to 3 postings a day).
keesan
response 173 of 333: Mark Unseen   May 22 14:55 UTC 2006

Can the r n (read new) command somehow be expanded to read things since a
certain time of day?  I just tried r n since 4:00 and it did not work.
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