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keesan
response 140 of 154: Mark Unseen   Jun 18 18:55 UTC 2003

How do they plan to 'damage' computers without invading the homes of the
owners?
tod
response 141 of 154: Mark Unseen   Jun 18 19:33 UTC 2003

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gelinas
response 142 of 154: Mark Unseen   Jun 18 20:31 UTC 2003

And what ever happened to due process?
tod
response 143 of 154: Mark Unseen   Jun 18 20:42 UTC 2003

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tpryan
response 144 of 154: Mark Unseen   Jun 19 07:03 UTC 2003

        Maybe less people are buying into TiVo because, with little
thought, TiVo will think you are gay.
(ps. don't TiVo King of Queens).
flem
response 145 of 154: Mark Unseen   Jun 19 16:04 UTC 2003

It took me several tries to figure out what #144 was talking about, but if
I did manage to get it, that's pretty funny.  :)
jmsaul
response 146 of 154: Mark Unseen   Jun 20 18:45 UTC 2003

There have been articles about it.  If you can find them, they're hysterical
(like what happens when you try to convince your TiVo you aren't gay).
mcnally
response 147 of 154: Mark Unseen   Jun 26 05:06 UTC 2003

  ?
jmsaul
response 148 of 154: Mark Unseen   Jun 26 13:05 UTC 2003

Sometimes it overcompensates.  Here's the story:

 http://online.wsj.com/article_email/0,,SB1038261936872356908,00.html

gull
response 149 of 154: Mark Unseen   Jun 26 14:21 UTC 2003

It strikes me that these people care far too much what guesses a
computer algorithm is making about what they'd like to see.  They're
acting as if it's another person they're trying to convince, instead of
a mindless computer.
gull
response 150 of 154: Mark Unseen   Jun 26 14:22 UTC 2003

This should be about as popular as death:

http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/6/31434.html

Line'em up! RIAA to sue thousands
By Ashlee Vance in San Francisco
Posted: 25/06/2003 at 21:10 GMT

The RIAA (Recording Industry Association of America) has issued the
biggest threat to date against online file-traders, saying it will sue
thousands of individuals into submission.

Starting Thursday, pigopolist grunts will begin combing P2P networks in
search of industrious file traders. Once the RIAA has targeted a large
store of copyrighted files, it will serve a subpoena on the user's ISP,
grab his/her name and address, and fire off a lawsuit.

"The RIAA expects to use the data it collects as the basis for filing
what could ultimately be thousands of lawsuits charging individual
peer-to-peer music distributors with copyright infringement," the RIAA
said in a statement. "The first round of suits could take place as early
as mid-August."

A pair of recent court rulings opened up this means of attack on
file-traders. First, a Los Angeles judge in April said P2P service
operators could not be held responsible for their users' actions. This
decision blocked the RIAA from shutting down large chunks of the P2P
community in one go - think Napster - and pushed them toward nailing
individuals.

More recently, the RIAA won another decision over Verizon, which gave it
permission to see the name and address of the ISP's customers.

Users face civil lawsuits, thousands of dollars in fines and even
criminal prosecution. At least the legal action is a more civilized way
of conducting business. Sending out fake files and having musicians
swear at users are puerile forms of protest.

For now, file traders should swap with caution. The RIAA plans to inject
network scanning software out into the vast P2P world and track what
files users are looking for and what they trade. If the RIAA bot spots
an infringing song, it marks the date and time the file is accessed.

It's unfortunate the government did not have such sophisticated tools
when it was examining the music labels' pricing fixing scheme that
pushed CD prices higher throughout the 1990s. Maybe then, the labels
would been hit with something harder than a slap on the wrist.

Time, perhaps, for a good old-fashioned consumer boycott?
gull
response 151 of 154: Mark Unseen   Jun 26 18:19 UTC 2003

Another, longer article about the same thing:
http://www.freep.com/money/tech/newman26_20030626.htm
remmers
response 152 of 154: Mark Unseen   Jun 26 19:31 UTC 2003

Re #150, last sentence:  Yes.
krj
response 153 of 154: Mark Unseen   Jun 26 23:00 UTC 2003

Oops, sorry, I duplicated the gist of David/gull's resp:150 when I 
rolled in the new quarterly incarnation of this item.
 
I believe that there is a widespread misunderstanding of the 
Verizon case, including its citation in The Register's item above.
It was not disputed that the RIAA could get the subscriber ID 
information of the Verizon customers who the RIAA believed to be 
infringing its copyrights; the dispute was over the mechanism to 
be used.  Verizon wanted the RIAA to file a "John Doe" lawsuit
against the user at the given IP address; this satisfied Verizon's
desire to slow down the process to something it can afford, and
offered judicial review of the case for privacy advocates.
 
What the RIAA wanted (and got) was access to the "expedited subpoena"
process spelled out in the DMCA.  This doesn't make it any easier 
for the RIAA to file suit against P2P sharers; it does make it possible
for the RIAA to send threatening letters to the users without
suing them.
 
The Verizon ruling may also allow the RIAA to shop for particularly 
unattractive defendants, and avoid the embarassment of suing cute 
12-year-old girls, but that's not directly the issue.
gull
response 154 of 154: Mark Unseen   Jun 27 13:53 UTC 2003

Re #153: It's okay.  More people will read the info in the new Agora.
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