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hash
response 14 of 293: Mark Unseen   Dec 24 20:48 UTC 2001

is /var/adm/messages supposed to be empty?
maybe it's been moved to the unreadable /var/log
gelinas
response 15 of 293: Mark Unseen   Dec 24 21:11 UTC 2001

telnet is working again.  (Determined by testing. ;)
tsty
response 16 of 293: Mark Unseen   Dec 25 17:52 UTC 2001

sharing is such a joy this season - 
   
voyager.net in east lansing seems in the right spirit, but really guys:
  
 who
tpryan   ttyqb    Dec 25 12:18 (216.93.104.37)
keesan   ttyu7    Dec 25 11:57 (216.93.104.37)
davel    ttyu8    Dec 25 12:30 (216.93.104.37)
rglass   ttyub    Dec 25 12:25 (216.93.104.37)
newuser  ttyp0    Dec 22 14:20 (as3-37.poznan.di)

  
(i left newuwer in there cause it was stuck out in the cold three 
days ago)
  
the other four _seem_ to have quite a lan in their wan! 
  
is there something i dont' know about (rhetorical, rhetorical, ok?)
hash
response 17 of 293: Mark Unseen   Dec 26 03:31 UTC 2001

hey ts, those are the dialins, I bet.
gestway
response 18 of 293: Mark Unseen   Dec 26 10:27 UTC 2001

What is the language of Shell scripts? And how is the sintax of the shell
scripts? I have used some UNIX commands, but they are not run. what is it
wrong?
keesan
response 19 of 293: Mark Unseen   Dec 26 14:01 UTC 2001

Hi, Gestway !.  There is a separate item for asking questions about how to
use grex (15 or 16?).     Welcome to the grex conferences.  (I have been
chatting with gestway for a while and exchanging emails.  He is a student at
a university in Indonesia, good at both computers and English.)
janc
response 20 of 293: Mark Unseen   Dec 26 20:43 UTC 2001

Grex's telnetd is launched by inetd, which periodically croaks for unknown
reasons.  There is a system daemon that automatically restarts inetd within
8 minutes after it dies.  The restart is done by "robocop" a daemon who's
primary purpose is to kill users who use excessive memory or processes (mostly
various types of fork bombs) and to kill any processes that users leave
running in background after logging off.  It does a number of other
housekeeping chores too.  So generally if ssh works and telnet doesn't, then
waiting a bit should fix things.
gelinas
response 21 of 293: Mark Unseen   Dec 26 22:05 UTC 2001

"8 minutes".  Thanks, I'll try to remember that. :)
mvpel
response 22 of 293: Mark Unseen   Dec 27 01:53 UTC 2001

Does ssh tie in to the waiting list mechanism?  Is there anyone putting any
thought into developing that if not?  What about upgrading to ssh v2?
gelinas
response 23 of 293: Mark Unseen   Dec 27 02:59 UTC 2001

If there is a queue, ssh fails to assign a pseudo-tty.  (or is that just if
the queue is full?)
janc
response 24 of 293: Mark Unseen   Dec 27 04:11 UTC 2001

Marcus is working on sshd upgrades.  It turns out to be hard to make it queue.
It was possible to make it mostly-fail if there is a queue, so it can't
readily be used to bypass the queue.  I believe he is working on improving
this situation, and on upgrading to a more recent release.  So currently ssh
is only semi-supported on Grex.  Actually, staff members pretty much always
connect with ssh, but if the queue is full we can ssh to one of Grex's other
servers, which don't have queues, and from there to Grex (the queue only
applies to users connecting from outside the cyberspace.org domain).
jp2
response 25 of 293: Mark Unseen   Dec 27 16:15 UTC 2001

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flem
response 26 of 293: Mark Unseen   Dec 27 17:50 UTC 2001

Grex will snicker at you?
mvpel
response 27 of 293: Mark Unseen   Dec 27 18:24 UTC 2001

I wonder what the issues are?  Seems like if you just insert a queue check
after the authentication but before forking the shell, and only fork the shell
after the queue countdown program exits, it would do the trick.
gull
response 28 of 293: Mark Unseen   Dec 27 19:42 UTC 2001

Hmm...would the UseLogin option to sshd help with implementing that?  I 
only have a vague idea how this works, though.
mvpel
response 29 of 293: Mark Unseen   Dec 27 20:04 UTC 2001

I don't see that UseLogin is supported in the ssh v2 config file.  Probably
a ripe target for security holes.  However, it would appear that the
"Subsystem" mechanism (used to implement sftp) might be usable in this
respect.
mvpel
response 30 of 293: Mark Unseen   Dec 28 02:57 UTC 2001

The network time protocol service is not working on Grex at the moment, and
the time is off by some 30 seconds into the future.
janc
response 31 of 293: Mark Unseen   Dec 28 03:17 UTC 2001

Re #25:  It doesn't use reverse lookup.  It knows what IP numbers Grex owns.
katie
response 32 of 293: Mark Unseen   Dec 28 04:44 UTC 2001

A friend of mine is having loads of trouble emailing me because his email
path goes through "pacbell-dot-something."  He said grex has a policy of
not receiving email from this server. What's up with that???

davel
response 33 of 293: Mark Unseen   Dec 28 14:40 UTC 2001

You probably should email Marcus about it, Katie.  At a guess it's a friendly
home for spam or something of that sort.
malymi
response 34 of 293: Mark Unseen   Dec 29 18:33 UTC 2001

re #14: only if you've been cracked or it's just been rotated.  however
        for all i know grex logs elsewhere and that file is never larger.
davel
response 35 of 293: Mark Unseen   Dec 30 01:34 UTC 2001

That seems likely, since that file was last updated in 1997.
janc
response 36 of 293: Mark Unseen   Dec 30 04:00 UTC 2001

Yes, /var/log/messages is where that lives.
janc
response 37 of 293: Mark Unseen   Dec 30 04:09 UTC 2001

You already know that Comcast changed all their customer's email addresses,
discontinued usenet news service, discontinued allowing multiple email
addresses, increased prices, and mailed out a CD to all their customers that
"eases the transition" by installing lots of irrelevant software, sticks
Comcast's name all over your desktop, and hoses your system configuration.

For additional fun, they've installed a proxy web server that filters out
Grex.  So Comcast customers can not access Grex's web pages now.

Valerie has spent about an hour and half on the phone with them trying to
convince them that there was a problem.  She ran out of time and hand to hang
up on the them without success.  If anyone more annoying and persistant wants
to call Comcast, that would be OK with us.
janc
response 38 of 293: Mark Unseen   Dec 30 04:29 UTC 2001

Oops, I missed few:  Comcast also supplied instruction to their customers
who were paying for static IP addresses for how to "maintain their
connectivity".  The instructions reconfigure your computer to use a
dynamic IP.  They have a typo in the IP address of one of their two DNS
servers.  The correct addresses turn out to both be on the same subnet,
largely nullifying the utility of having two.

In otherwords, the entire new Comcast network was thrown together overnight
by a bunch of people who had barely any idea what they were doing.
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