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polygon
response 139 of 224: Mark Unseen   Nov 10 14:13 UTC 2003

Hmmm, I had been thinking that this might be a cartoonist.
bhoward
response 140 of 224: Mark Unseen   Nov 10 15:16 UTC 2003

What, like Carl Barks?
remmers
response 141 of 224: Mark Unseen   Nov 10 18:01 UTC 2003

*Exactly* like Carl Barks.  Excellent!  We have a winner.

Carl Barks wrote and drew most of the "duck stories" (Donald
Duck and associated characters) that appeared in Walt Disney
comic books from the early 1940s until his retirement in 1965.
He created Scrooge McDuck, Gladstone Gander, the Junior
Woodchucks, and the Beagle Boys.

The quotes above are from Donald Duck and Scrooge McDuck stories
originally published from the late 1940s through the late 1950s
in ten-cent Walt Disney comic books.  They range in length from
ten-page Donald Duck stories in Walt Disney's Comics and Stories
magazine to longer adventure pieces with titles like "Crown of
the Mayas" and "The Golden Helmet" in the Donald Duck and Uncle
Scrooge magazines.

In my opinion, althought his name is not as well known,  Barks'
artistic and narrative abilites were comparable to those of Walt
Kelly, who also worked for Disney as an animator (Kelly's name
is in the "Dumbo" credits) and comic book illustrator during
the 1940s.

Kelly broke free of Disney with his "Pogo" character, first in
comic book form, then as the classic newspaper strip.  At that
point, he got to sign his work, and his name became known to
the public at large.  Barks, by contrast, remained in the Disney
stable and thus had to work anonymously - artists and writers for
Disney comic books didn't get to claim any credit for their work
in those days.  As a result, he developed a large collection of
fans who loved his stuff and recognized it as distinctly superior
to that of other cartoonists writing and drawing duck stories,
but who had no idea who he was and who referred to him simply as
"the good artist".

Soon before or after Barks' retirement from Disney, some
persistent fans managed to uncover his identity.  After that
he became a frequent guest at comic book conventions, his duck
stories were reprinted and anthologized, and the original comic
books containing his work became valuable collectors items (a
mint-condition copy of a 1940s comic book containing a Barks
story would probably sell for thousands of dollars today).
In his later years he turned out a series of oil "duck paintings"
based on the original stories that themselves are now collectors
items commanding high prices.  A few years ago, when he was in
his 90s, he was guest of honor at an elaborate celebration of
his work at one of the Disney theme parks.  Belated, but much
deserved, recognition.  Barks died in 2000 at the age of 99.

Barks' stories do tend to exhibit adherence to a formula -
typically some sort of adventure in an exotic land and involving
a long lost treasure.  In his later years, Barks remarked that
if he'd known that there would be any kind of long term interest
in his work, he'd have put more effort into varying his plots.

Okay.  Bhoward guessed it, so he's up for the next quote.
mcnally
response 142 of 224: Mark Unseen   Nov 10 18:38 UTC 2003

  But who, I wonder, was the creative force behind
  "Donald in Mathemagic-Land"?  (hmm.  Google to the
  rescue again..)
remmers
response 143 of 224: Mark Unseen   Nov 10 18:45 UTC 2003

Dunno, but probably not Barks.  Doesn't seem like his style.
mynxcat
response 144 of 224: Mark Unseen   Nov 10 22:50 UTC 2003

Donald in Mathemagic Land was one of my favoriets.
bhoward
response 145 of 224: Mark Unseen   Nov 12 00:06 UTC 2003

No fair, Lawrence tricked me into blurting that out :-)

Excuse me while I rummage for an interesting quote.
Unfortunately, I'm at work so you'll just have to wait until
(your) tomorrow morning.
polygon
response 146 of 224: Mark Unseen   Nov 20 06:29 UTC 2003

It's been a week of tomorrows, and no quote yet, so into the breach
again....

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    Death before forty's no bar. Lo!
      These had accomplished their feats:
    Chatterton, Burns, and Kit Marlowe,
      Byron and Shelley and Keats.

    Death, the eventual censor,
      Lays for the forties, and so
    Took off Jane Austen and Spenser,
      Stevenson, Hood, and poor Poe.

    You'll leave a better-lined wallet
      By reaching the end of your rope
    After fifty, like Shakespeare and Smollett,
      Thackeray, Dickens, and Pope.

    Try for the sixties--but say, boy.
      That's when the tombstones were built on
    Butler and Sheridan, the play boy
      Arnold and Coleridge and Milton.

    Three score and ten--the tides rippling
      Over the bar; slip the hawser.
    Godspeed to Clemens and Kipling,
      Swinburne and Browning and Chaucer.

    Some staved the debt off but paid it
      At eighty--that's after the law.
    Wordsworth and Tennyson made it,
      And Meredith, Hardy, and Shaw.

    But Death, while you make up your quota
      Please note this confession of candor--
    That I wouldn't give an iota
      To linger till ninety, like Landor.
bhoward
response 147 of 224: Mark Unseen   Nov 20 10:02 UTC 2003

(thanks polygon...I've been a bit distracted this week
preparing for a trip back to the states)
remmers
response 148 of 224: Mark Unseen   Nov 20 11:43 UTC 2003

Hm....

Shaw died in 1950, so the quote has to postdate that.  So we're talking
about a latter-20th-century author who wrote at least some humorous
verse.

Odgen Nash comes to mind, but it doesn't sound much like Nash.  It scans
too well.

Wild (and probably wrong) guess:  Richard Wilbur.
remmers
response 149 of 224: Mark Unseen   Nov 20 14:29 UTC 2003

(By the way, I assume that the "Landor" referenced in the quote is
Walter Savage Landor.  His dates were 1775-1864, so it looks like he
didn't quite make it to ninety, contrary to what the quote says.)
polygon
response 150 of 224: Mark Unseen   Nov 20 15:48 UTC 2003

Not Ogden Nash.  Not Richard Wilbur.  But yes, an American.
polygon
response 151 of 224: Mark Unseen   Nov 20 15:50 UTC 2003

And unlike Landor, the author of the quoted lines did not live to ripe
age.
polygon
response 152 of 224: Mark Unseen   Nov 20 15:56 UTC 2003

And oh -- an understandable error.  Apparently George Bernard Shaw was
living when this was written.  The poem predates 1950.
remmers
response 153 of 224: Mark Unseen   Nov 20 16:29 UTC 2003

Hm, the poem's misleading then, as it implies that Shaw had already
"paid the debt", which I took to mean had "passed on".  Shaw was born
in 1856, so if he was in his 80s when the poem was written, that would
put the date no earlier than the mid-1930s.  If it's also pre-1950,
that narrows it down to a span of no more than 14 or 15 years.

Okay, an American author active in the 1930s and/or 1940s.  I'll
ponder some more...
md
response 154 of 224: Mark Unseen   Nov 20 18:53 UTC 2003

Reminds me of Samuel Hoffenstein.
twenex
response 155 of 224: Mark Unseen   Nov 20 21:15 UTC 2003

I'm not clear whether it's clear that George Bernard Shaw was Irish, not
American...
remmers
response 156 of 224: Mark Unseen   Nov 20 21:59 UTC 2003

It's clear to me.  But polygon said that the author (who is not Shaw)
is American.
twenex
response 157 of 224: Mark Unseen   Nov 20 22:29 UTC 2003

Ah.
Point.
polygon
response 158 of 224: Mark Unseen   Nov 21 14:58 UTC 2003

Re 153.  Yes, the poem was first published when Shaw was in his 80s.

Re 154.  Not Samuel Hoffenstein.

Re 155-57.  Not George Bernard Shaw.

The author's most famous work (and it is very famous) is in prose, not
poetry.  I did not realize the author was also a published poet until I
found this poem.  A Google search found references to other poetry.
slynne
response 159 of 224: Mark Unseen   Nov 22 03:18 UTC 2003

Fitzgerald?
polygon
response 160 of 224: Mark Unseen   Nov 23 04:50 UTC 2003

Re 159.  Bingo!  F. Scott Fitzgerald is the author.  The poem was first
published in The New Yorker in 1937.  Fitzgerald himself died in his 40s.

Though refereces to the title ("Obit on Parnassus") can be found in
Google, the text of the poem does not appear to be online.
remmers
response 161 of 224: Mark Unseen   Nov 23 14:30 UTC 2003

Interesting.  I didn't know that Fitzgerald was a poet either.
rcurl
response 162 of 224: Mark Unseen   Nov 23 17:53 UTC 2003

There are only sixty or so Fitzgerald poems - how could you know? 
http://libweb.princeton.edu/libraries/firestone/rbsc/aids/fitzgerald/
slynne
response 163 of 224: Mark Unseen   Nov 23 20:43 UTC 2003

Heh. That was a total lucky guess. I didnt realize that Fitzgerald was 
a poet either. Go figure. 

I have a really cool quote but I am not at home (where the book is) so 
I'll have to enter it later. 
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