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mcnally
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response 135 of 189:
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Jan 26 10:47 UTC 2000 |
So who are the remaining competitors at that level?
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krj
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response 136 of 189:
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Jan 26 13:42 UTC 2000 |
Assuming this merger goes through, the four major labels will be:
Universal Music Group (formerly MCA and Polygram, merged 1998, and
owned by Seagram's)
Warner Music EMI (owned by AOL Time Warner)
Sony Music (Columbia is their major label in the US for pop)
BMG (European conglomerate Bertelsmann)
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krj
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response 137 of 189:
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Feb 5 04:34 UTC 2000 |
... and Yahoo Reuters Entertainment news says BMG is looking for a deal.
The February 2000 issue of Stereophile magazine reports the demise of
Mobile Fidelity, a premium-priced reissue label devoted to quality.
They championed LP quality in an era when major label pressings
were crap; they claimed their gold CDs were somehow superior, a claim
I could never really buy into. Their mastering work was generally
regarded as the best. Mobile Fidelity shut down in November after
one of their main distributors went bankrupt, owing MF lots of money.
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krj
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response 138 of 189:
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Feb 9 06:29 UTC 2000 |
From the New York Times, February 1: Neil Strauss writes a piece about
bluegrass musician Johnny Staats, who has just signed a major label
contract with a Time-Warner imprint, but who has chosen to keep
his day job as a UPS truck driver. In discussing the new unpredictability
of the music business and the number of artists being cut from their
major-label deals, Strauss mentions: "the difficulty of breaking
even on any release that sells less than half a million copies..."
What? 500,000 is now the breakeven point? That's halfway to platinum
status...
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lumen
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response 139 of 189:
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Feb 9 17:34 UTC 2000 |
you sure? There are so many people involved in the music business pie
that it's difficult to recoup all production and marketing costs.
TLC sold 3,000,000 copies of _CrazySexyCool_ and still went bankrupt.
Just how well produced and marketed is this musician? Costs can add up
fast..
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goose
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response 140 of 189:
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Feb 9 21:48 UTC 2000 |
Just looking up the word 'recoupable' in the dictionary should scare most
people out of the music business.
I'm not surprised by that statement Ken, selling 50,000 units is an amazing
feat, but it won't make you *any* money if you're on a major...it will gross
about a half a million bucks for the label though...
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scott
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response 141 of 189:
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Feb 9 22:31 UTC 2000 |
...which is why you need to avoid being a "major label" artist.
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krj
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response 142 of 189:
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Feb 9 22:33 UTC 2000 |
I looked it up on www.riaa.com. A Gold Record award is for sales of 500,000.
This used to be an exceptional, award-worthy number of sales, but according
to Strauss it is now the typical breakeven point for the majors.
It sounds like record company costs have spun completely out of
control for the major labels.
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lumen
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response 143 of 189:
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Feb 11 00:29 UTC 2000 |
That was exactly my point. Gee, watching MTV and VH1 is good for
something.
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dbratman
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response 144 of 189:
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Feb 18 22:00 UTC 2000 |
It's like credit cards. First, a gold record (or card) was something
special. Then it became ordinary. Now it's platinum that's becoming
ordinary. What will be next?
(And we had stars, then superstars, then megastars, and now we're
getting gigastars. Sheesh!)
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tpryan
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response 145 of 189:
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Feb 18 23:59 UTC 2000 |
Does that make OJ Simpson a kilostar?
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krj
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response 146 of 189:
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Mar 27 22:18 UTC 2000 |
item: http://music.zdnet.com/news/2000_03_20_cdnow.html
The investors' journal Barrons has a death watch list of 51
Internet businesses which are running out of money. Included in
that list is CDNow.com, which was the premier retailer of CDs on the
net for quite a few years.
The CDNow/Columbia House merger which we wrote about somewhere in this
conference fell apart, because it turned out that neither party to the
merger was making much profit. CDNow has about six months of cash
available to it right now.
My personal opinion is that Amazon.com is killing them with a much
better web site.
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diznave
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response 147 of 189:
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Mar 29 15:57 UTC 2000 |
The real winners in all of this, of course, are UPS and FedEx
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goose
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response 148 of 189:
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Mar 29 19:24 UTC 2000 |
Not with a move to electronic distribution.
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diznave
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response 149 of 189:
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Mar 31 15:33 UTC 2000 |
well, an item ordered electronically still has to be delivered to your door,
right?
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orinoco
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response 150 of 189:
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Mar 31 17:21 UTC 2000 |
Not if the "items" are encoded and delivered online.
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diznave
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response 151 of 189:
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Apr 3 14:47 UTC 2000 |
Okay, true.....still, the number of every day non-computer related things you
can purchase online is large and getting larger and they have to get to you
somehow...
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krj
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response 152 of 189:
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Jun 14 22:39 UTC 2000 |
News item: Seagram, owner of the largest (or maybe second largest)
record company, the Universal Music Group, is in negotiations to be
acquired by a French media conglomerate.
News item: the world music label Wicklow, headed by Paddy Moloney
of the Chieftains, is now in limbo. I expected this, as
Wicklow was run as part of BMG's classical music division, and
that classical music division is being dismantled.
Wicklow has put out some very nice albums by Sin E', Mary Jane Lamond
and Varttina; get them before they all go out of print, I guess.
I don't even know if the new Varttina is available in the USA yet.
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mcnally
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response 153 of 189:
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Jun 20 00:58 UTC 2000 |
Today's NYT ( http://www.nytimes.com ) has a front page story on
French water and utility conglomerate Vivendi's proposed buyout of
Seagram. According to the NYT, the French buyer wants to transform
itself into an "entertainment and telecommunications giant". The
article doesn't give many details, but definitely gives the impression
that the buyer is much more interested in the MCA/Universal Group
holdings than the original Seagram's core distillery business (it's
suggested that the liquor part of the business would be quickly sold
off..)
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krj
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response 154 of 189:
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Jul 21 16:05 UTC 2000 |
You may recall that CD Now was probably the biggest of the dot-com
retailers on the death-watch list. Cnet reports today that Bertelsmann,
one of the four remaining major labels, is buying CD Now for $117 million.
CDNow says it will continue to operate its retail shop under that
brandname. Bertelsmann gets the experience that CD Now has accumulated
running one of the largest music-related sites. The deal is seen as
win for both companies. CD Now stock peaked at $25/share, and the buyout
is at $3/share.
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krj
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response 155 of 189:
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Jul 21 19:38 UTC 2000 |
Opinion item:
http://www.vh1.com/thewire/news/article.jhtml?ID=699
Matt Johnson of The The writes about his experiences as an artist
in the newly-conglomeratized Universal Music Group. He was one of the
artists to survive the brutal roster massacre at the label, but
Universal shows no interest in promoting his new release, so he's doing it
himself by making MP3 downloads available. He admits that he has
previously been critical of Napster and the Mp3 trading scene.
Quote: "Most artists with more than a couple of years' experience
now sadly accept that the industry is run by principles of
institutionalized corruption."
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mcnally
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response 156 of 189:
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Jul 22 08:11 UTC 2000 |
I've been listening to a lot of The The albums lately (and, incidentally,
have unfortunately been discovering that the one I like best is the one I
bought first.. I hate it when you start buying a band's catalog hoping to
discover more of what attracted you in the first place and just don't find
what you were looking for..)
I'll probably actually take advantage of the chance to download a track a
week from his latest in order to decide whether I want to buy it.
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brighn
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response 157 of 189:
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Jul 24 04:51 UTC 2000 |
I've always thought that Matt Johnson was an overrated hack who was made by
hype and the label. Ironic that he's biting the hand now that he can't get
any more vittles.
Matt Johnson does have musical talent... "Infected" displays this. He also
has a LOT of arrogance, and more arrogance than talent.
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mcnally
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response 158 of 189:
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Jul 24 05:03 UTC 2000 |
I kind of agree with your criticisms of Johnson -- I think he's
produced enough good work to show what he's capable of, and piles
and piles of pretentious dreck (e.g. the "Mind Bomb" album)
I've been very frustrated listening to the The The albums I've
bought lately, even considering that they were heavily discounted.
It's undoubtedly significant that I think the best thing he's done
was an album where he didn't write a single one of the songs --
"Hanky Panky", his album of Hank Williams (Sr.) covers. His blazing
cover of "I Saw the Light" is far better than anything he's done
performing his own material, much of which suffers from embarrassingly
sophomoric lyrics.
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krj
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response 159 of 189:
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Aug 2 23:01 UTC 2000 |
News item: New York Times, August 1: "Digital Music, Chapter 2."
EMI rolls out its plans for downloadable music.
EMI plans to charge "full retail price" for downloads: $3.99
to download a single, $17-$18 for an album. EMI claims distribution
costs are actually higher online than for the
distribution of a manufactured CD.
This plan is DOA, I predict, unless pricing is slashed.
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