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jaklumen
response 134 of 178: Mark Unseen   Feb 6 07:57 UTC 2002

sahib?

sahib!

Paradox is the world I teach you today, sahib.
It is a glorious kingdom
where royal nobodies sit upon thrones of aluminum frustration,
and their sages are court fools babbling blank musings.
Troubadours and common gleeman alike sing songs of sad joy,
and wealth and poverty line the streets,
paved with golden and wooden coins from the east
etched with a parable on their third sides
speaking of indifferent similarities here.
morwen
response 135 of 178: Mark Unseen   Feb 6 18:09 UTC 2002

Jon, you forgot to do a word list.  LOL
flem
response 136 of 178: Mark Unseen   Feb 6 19:36 UTC 2002

"Watching this hallowed meretrix, I feel the muse's prick"

haha, excellent.  Was the pun intentional? 
morwen
response 137 of 178: Mark Unseen   Feb 7 03:07 UTC 2002

Depends, I didn't know there was a pun.  Oh wait.  I think I see it.

No, it was completely unintentional.  Suppose I should've seen that 
coming and written "muse's touch" instead. lol

remmers
response 138 of 178: Mark Unseen   Feb 7 11:16 UTC 2002

Word list, please!
flem
response 139 of 178: Mark Unseen   Feb 7 14:48 UTC 2002

re 137, "muse's touch":  Absolutely not!  "muse's prick" is essential, 
especially in such close proximity to "meretrix".  :)
jaklumen
response 140 of 178: Mark Unseen   Feb 8 04:52 UTC 2002

yes.  It would be unwise to break a near rhyme that happens to have a 
witty interpretation by a certain colloquialism.

Oh, beg your pardon, John, sorry.. it is my turn.  Here we are, as 
follows:

rich beggar
fragrant stench
delicious dogma
skillful quack
thoughtful ignorance
coordinated chaos
joyous damnation
stereophonic soliloquy
brighn
response 141 of 178: Mark Unseen   Feb 8 15:19 UTC 2002

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brighn
response 142 of 178: Mark Unseen   Feb 8 15:21 UTC 2002

 It was not coincidence:
 It was the delicious dogma of the skillful quack
 that one rich kid was bad enough, but twins?
 Too much.
 So one was squirreled away
 (In the coordinated chaos of the birthing room)
 To the fragrant stench of the London streets,
 The joyous damnation of living among the common people
 nd raised in the love born of thoughtful ignorance.

 And yet, as the boys grew, their misery at their fates
 Rose above the streets of London --
 From Buckingham Palace to the Back Alleys --
 From the impoverished prince and the rich beggar -- 
 A stereophonic soliloquy of "Woe is me!"

 (From the back story of "The Prince and the Pauper" ;} )
 
 [Scribbled and reposted, I forgot one.]
brighn
response 143 of 178: Mark Unseen   Feb 8 15:29 UTC 2002

devout heretic
spurious capnomancy
effluvial quinine
retrofitted pyrene
treacle-flavored disintegration
retired wife
gelatinous ceramic

There you go. Some everyday phrases for y'all to play with.
morwen
response 144 of 178: Mark Unseen   Feb 8 19:15 UTC 2002

oh my.  I might need to look those ones up too, just to know what they 
mean when they are used in verse.
morwen
response 145 of 178: Mark Unseen   Feb 11 18:12 UTC 2002

Is somebody going to post or are we waiting while everyone looks up 
brighn's wordlist.
brighn
response 146 of 178: Mark Unseen   Feb 11 19:10 UTC 2002

I killed it. ={
flem
response 147 of 178: Mark Unseen   Feb 11 21:43 UTC 2002

I may give it a try tonight, if I feel up to it.  
aquarum
response 148 of 178: Mark Unseen   Feb 12 06:23 UTC 2002

Not terribly good, but fun to write...


Sitting at the coffee house, watching his pipe make dragons
I practice my spurious capnomancy and spin stories about them
Stealing bits of wisdom from maidens who then buy them back
With gems.
The jacket talks about gin and tonic and again I smell the effluvial quinine
Of British officers in India, and think of the treacle-flavored disintegration
Of the Empire on which the sun never set.  Until it did.
Grasshoppers lead one to another and I babble about tales of handmaids
And retired wives.
I am a devout heretic when it comes to their conversational patterns.
They follow me nonetheless.
Later I may talk about the woman who was frightened by ghosts
That turned her kylix into gelatinous ceramic
Or try to hard to bridge a gap between cyberpunk and folk song
By talking about yours trulyUs retrofitted pyrene.
Why do they let me?


(Words to follow)
{I swear Brighn picks his words the same way Lofting's good doctor picked
places to go}
aquarum
response 149 of 178: Mark Unseen   Feb 12 06:42 UTC 2002

New Words!!
damasked footlights
firey horns
corked heron
mirroring rosethorn
indefinite bird
falling's sound

Anyone get my references in that poem to popular novels?  (just curious)
And, in reference to the poemin #132 (with "the muse's prick," are y'all aware
that, in addition to the Nine Muses, the Greeks had a tenth, male, muse? 
Museo, the Muse-Man.

brighn
response 150 of 178: Mark Unseen   Feb 12 17:45 UTC 2002

Who is Lofting's good doctor, and how did he pick places to go?
I'm impressed, by the way. Only the last one -- retrofitted pyrene -- sounded
really forced. The rest worked their way in fairly well, considering my
Sadistic choices.
morwen
response 151 of 178: Mark Unseen   Feb 12 17:53 UTC 2002

resp:149 Not that I'm aware of and I like to tell Greek myths for 
fun.  What's your source?  
aquarum
response 152 of 178: Mark Unseen   Feb 13 05:09 UTC 2002

To brighn:  Nope, I'm gonna be stubborn, and make you look it up.
To morwen:  I've forgotten the source now, it was in something about Hecate,
who was his mother.  The reference seemed to be very obscure, and he wasn't
very MUCH recognized.
aquarum
response 153 of 178: Mark Unseen   Feb 13 05:13 UTC 2002

Oops, meant to say that yeah, I know that was a bit forced, which is why I
put in the bit about trying too hard.  It's much funnier if you actually get
my reference, but of course I was being purposely obscure last night.
brighn
response 154 of 178: Mark Unseen   Feb 13 07:13 UTC 2002

Hmmmm... my resident Hellenic Reconstructionism contact is unaware of Hekate
having children. Musaeus was not a Muse, but was connected to Them and to the
Oracles (being the son of Selene and, perhaps, Orpheus). Apollo (also
connected to Oracles) had Musagates [leader of the Muses] as an eponym. He's
unaware of anyone called Museo (which is actually the Italian word for
"museum," not surprisingly).
 
But, Greek mythology spans a long time. It sounds spurious, but I can't
disprove it without sources.
aquarum
response 155 of 178: Mark Unseen   Feb 13 17:24 UTC 2002

>Hekate in particular gets very confusing when you try to pin her down to
>anything.  According to one of my books, a fragment of Akousilaos lists
Skylla
>(a monster, usually paired with CHarybdis) as having been Hekate's offspring
>by Phorkys (minor sea god, father of the Gorgons).  I can't figure out where
>I found that reference to Museo, and it may well have been incorrect.  I
>merely tossed it out as an item of interest.
>Hekate is not often listed as having children, perhaps because she was seen
>throughout the Classical period as a maiden goddess, very young.  The
>transformation into a crone doesn't appear to happen until the late Roman
>period, and then seems to have been mainly a literary thing, unconnected with
>her worship.
brighn
response 156 of 178: Mark Unseen   Feb 13 19:08 UTC 2002

And the Maid, Mother, Crone aspect of Hekate appears to be a Wiccan thing,
probably caused by a misunderstanding of three-faced Hekate statues (where
all the faces are the same age).
morwen
response 157 of 178: Mark Unseen   Feb 14 01:24 UTC 2002

This is a fun conversation, but leave us not forget the subject.

Here is the latest wordlist restated:

damasked footlights
firey horns
corked heron
mirroring rosethorn
indefinite bird
falling's sound

aquarum
response 158 of 178: Mark Unseen   Feb 14 04:23 UTC 2002

The entire concept of maiden-mother-crone goddesses is modern, although it
did not originate with Wiccans, we just picked it up.  I'll dig up the source
for that later.  NO triple goddess is maiden-mother-crone.  They're all the
same age.  Hekate was considered to be three-formed (Hecate Triformis is one
of her Latin epithets), but all three of her were maidens.
Errr, sorry.  I'll shut up and let the item get back to its regularly
scheduled mayhem now.
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