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polytarp
response 134 of 251: Mark Unseen   Feb 1 03:30 UTC 2003

JUST USE TELNET!
keesan
response 135 of 251: Mark Unseen   Feb 1 03:36 UTC 2003

I have used the Change program (a few months ago) to put polytarp on my do
not write/tel/chat/talk list but I still get tels.  Why?
polytarp
response 136 of 251: Mark Unseen   Feb 1 03:39 UTC 2003

It was a talk request, keesan.
keesan
response 137 of 251: Mark Unseen   Feb 1 23:40 UTC 2003

The change program said it was changing my .login file.  I don't see polytarp
anywhere in the file.
remmers
response 138 of 251: Mark Unseen   Feb 1 23:52 UTC 2003

Then the change program misspoke.  What it changes is your .cfonce
file.
mdw
response 139 of 251: Mark Unseen   Feb 2 00:40 UTC 2003

"whois" doesn't know about "cyberspace.org" either; the message at the
end does not mention .ORG (as noted in #126).  DNS does know about grex.org.
This also works:
        whois -h whois.pir.org grex.org
(but it's amazingly slow.  Too many spammers harvesting contact info?)
janc
response 140 of 251: Mark Unseen   Feb 2 02:50 UTC 2003

Re: 133
  I think if you put "cat /usr/local/lib/motd.birthday" into your
.login file (assuming csh) then you will see the motd.birthday file
even when sshing in.  However, you'll then probably see it twice when
telnetting in.
aruba
response 141 of 251: Mark Unseen   Feb 2 03:58 UTC 2003

Is there a way I can see the "You have New Mail" message when using ssh?
gull
response 142 of 251: Mark Unseen   Feb 2 21:38 UTC 2003

"whois.geektools.com" works as a whois host for almost all registrars and
TLDs. (Not *quite* all -- there are a few that they can't support for one
reason or another.)
keesan
response 143 of 251: Mark Unseen   Feb 3 00:11 UTC 2003

After reading mail with Pine (today and yesterday) I was told No conf. when
I typed bbs or even bbs agora.  I then typed q, bbs (same message) and then
j agora.  Is this a new feature or did I do something odd?
keesan
response 144 of 251: Mark Unseen   Feb 3 00:48 UTC 2003

Also before getting into bbs 'I don't understand mart. Type HELP for help.'
(This was before the (no conf) appeared onscreen.  Confusing and possibly
other people are completely lost.  
keesan
response 145 of 251: Mark Unseen   Feb 3 02:50 UTC 2003

My twit filter is no longer working now.  I checked .cfonce and polytarp is
still listed there.  I would suspect my own fault except for the no conf
problem at the same time.  Or is some other file of mine messed up too?
keesan
response 146 of 251: Mark Unseen   Feb 3 06:02 UTC 2003

Might I have messed up .cfonce when I was removing all the redundant copies
of a twit filter?  Anyone want to look at it for me, please? 
polytarp
response 147 of 251: Mark Unseen   Feb 3 06:38 UTC 2003

HAHA!  I can talk to you keesan!
remmers
response 148 of 251: Mark Unseen   Feb 3 12:11 UTC 2003

Re #146:  Yes, you need to fix your .cfonce, where you apparently got some
inappropriate line-wrapping when you edited it.  The following two lines
should be just one:

  # responses entered by users: jp2 polytarp realpoly gizmo sarkhel loperbd
  mart

The fact that "mart" is by itself on a line explains the message about it.
The following two lines should also be one:

  define pager "twit jp2 polytarp realpoly gizmo sarkhel loperbd mart | less
  -dE -P 'Press Spacebar for more, or q to quit'

davel
response 149 of 251: Mark Unseen   Feb 3 14:48 UTC 2003

(The first of those pairs is just a comment, but for the second you need (in
joining them) a blank between "less" and "-dE".)
keesan
response 150 of 251: Mark Unseen   Feb 3 20:16 UTC 2003

Thanks, this explains the 'I don't understand mart'.  It still does not
explain why my twit filter is not eliminating tels from people on the twit
list.
keesan
response 151 of 251: Mark Unseen   Feb 3 20:20 UTC 2003

I tried to edit .cfonce with pico.  I put things on one line but pico wraps
them onto two.  Can I disable line wrap with pico?  Do I need to learn vi to
fix .cfonce?  I could put a # in front of mart but that does not fix the
problem o f the line starting with -dE.
remmers
response 152 of 251: Mark Unseen   Feb 3 20:47 UTC 2003

I'm not a pico user, so I don't know if linewrap can be disabled.

Re #150:  Twit lists in .cfonce control only what Picospan shows you.
They have nothing to do with tels.  For that, you need to enable
a .nowrite file.  See !man write.
aruba
response 153 of 251: Mark Unseen   Feb 3 21:10 UTC 2003

To disable word-wrap in pico, use "pico -w -t".  Well, probably you just
need the w, but I use both and it works.
hash
response 154 of 251: Mark Unseen   Feb 3 23:23 UTC 2003

-t is nice because it puts pico in 'tool' mode which is better for novice
users.
keesan
response 155 of 251: Mark Unseen   Feb 4 00:38 UTC 2003

The change program which modified .cfonce (but said it was modifying .login)
also said it was changing write permissions for tel talk etc.  Someone might
want to modify the change program.  I will check out pico -w -t.
keesan
response 156 of 251: Mark Unseen   Feb 4 00:40 UTC 2003

My .cfonce has been fixed with pico -w -t.  What did the -t do?  I was able
to remove the CR/LF or whatever it was that was breaking up one line into two.
gelinas
response 157 of 251: Mark Unseen   Feb 4 01:10 UTC 2003

I wonder if a quotation mark is also missing from that last line.
keesan
response 158 of 251: Mark Unseen   Feb 4 03:34 UTC 2003

If so where should I restore it to?  Everything seems to work anyway.
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