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keesan
response 130 of 260: Mark Unseen   Jan 20 15:18 UTC 2006

Operamail.com is also using 'spamblock'.  How long do we need to wait to get
off the spamcop list?  Could we write and explain we are no longer allowing
new users to send mail?
bhoward
response 131 of 260: Mark Unseen   Jan 20 15:58 UTC 2006

Just looked at:
   http://www.spamcop.net/w3m?action=checkblock&ip=grex.org

and got:
   216.86.77.194 not listed in bl.spamcop.net

when verifying grex's current status.

Need more information to chase this any further.
keesan
response 132 of 260: Mark Unseen   Jan 20 15:59 UTC 2006

I just had to sign up with spamcop in order to report the 7 Windows-1251 spams
that showed up in 12 hours because I can't figure out where sdf is putting
user mail.  They have procmail, probably not spamassassin.  Anyone know where
sdf/NetBSD normally puts user mail so I can use procmail there?  
I just noticed that I put both my email addresses in my online resume - I am
amazed that the spammers did not reap the sdf one until recently.  Maybe they
found the word Russian at my website and are sending 1251 for that reason?
All I see is Greek and math symbols.  Linux does not seem to come with 1251,
just KOI8 and iso 8859-1 and cp866 Cyrillic.
keesan
response 133 of 260: Mark Unseen   Jan 20 16:02 UTC 2006

spamblock at operamail.com is refusing grex mail, not spamcop.

From Mailer-Daemon@cyberspace.org Thu Jan 19 14:22:26 2006
Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 14:22:26 -0500
Subject: Mail delivery failed: returning message to sender

A message that you sent could not be delivered to one or more of its
recipients. This is a permanent error. The following address(es) failed:

  XXXXX@operamail.com
    SMTP error from remote mail server after RCPT TO:<XXXX@operamail.com>:
    host operamail-com.mr.outblaze.com [64.62.181.91]:
    554 EMail from mailserver at 216.86.77.194 is refused. 
See http://spamblock.outblaze.com/216.86.77.194

---------------
I can't imagine what they are filtering on - it was a short letter 
thanking someone (in plain English) for sending me a dictionary.  I will 
try again as a test.
keesan
response 134 of 260: Mark Unseen   Jan 20 16:07 UTC 2006

They just returned another short email.  Maybe they are using an out of date
spamcop blacklist?  
keesan
response 135 of 260: Mark Unseen   Jan 20 16:11 UTC 2006

Sdf also got the mail bounced back, but this time not by spamblock.  Her
mailbox is full.  
mcnally
response 136 of 260: Mark Unseen   Jan 20 18:38 UTC 2006

 re #133, 134: 
 
 Sindi (and anyone else who reports a complaint about spam blocking..):

 It's important that you be specific and careful with your phrasing
 when you report things like this.  If you're not exactly sure what
 is happening, provide the error message verbatim (as you did in
 #133) and not your interpretation (as you did in #134.)

 For instance, you asked about the spamcop list.  Bruce checked and
 reported that we're not (currently) on the spamcop blacklist.  But
 then in item #134 you're again talking about "[a] spamcop blacklist",
 apparently using it as a generic term.  "blacklist" would be the
 generic term, when you say "spamcop" you're talking about a specific
 instance, which makes an already confusing situation even moreso.
bhoward
response 137 of 260: Mark Unseen   Jan 21 03:34 UTC 2006

So I did another round of checking our status.  Spamblock, a different
blocking service homed at spamblock.outblaze.com, had grex listd
for a spam sent back in December.  I made a removal request which
now seems to have taken effect:
    http://spamblock.outblaze.com/216.86.77.194

I also checked rbls.org which has a multi-rbl check page:
    http://rbls.org/?q=216.86.77.194

and according to them, that we're off (or probably off) most of the
lists they check except for the blackmailers at dnsbl.sorbs.net.
naftee
response 138 of 260: Mark Unseen   Jan 21 04:33 UTC 2006

picospan seems to have this major lag after starting
keesan
response 139 of 260: Mark Unseen   Jan 21 16:13 UTC 2006

I would still appreciate help setting up procmail at sdf - where should I look
for user mail at NetBSD.  3/4 of my 'mail' is now spam there, from three
sources judging from the format (two Russian selling who knows what, one
selling pirated Windows software).  And can I find precompiled NetBSD
spamassassin somewhere?

Thanks Bruce for getting us off another spam blocking list.  How many are
there?
kingjon
response 140 of 260: Mark Unseen   Jan 21 16:16 UTC 2006

User mail at SDF is in /mail/username -- in my case /mail/kingjon .

keesan
response 141 of 260: Mark Unseen   Jan 21 18:31 UTC 2006

Jon, thank you very much.  I asked twice in the bboard mail conference at sdf
with no answer.  I copied over my grex .forward and .procmailrc files and
changed locations of procmail and keesan mail, deleted the part about
spamassassin, and added four filters that are catching spam from three
sources. I seem to be on a Russian translators' spam list, believe it or not.
Can there really be Russian translators dumb enough to read spam and buy
pirated Photoshop?  
rcurl
response 142 of 260: Mark Unseen   Jan 21 20:32 UTC 2006

Grex is still on the att.net no-no list.
denisea
response 143 of 260: Mark Unseen   Jan 25 23:16 UTC 2006

I'm still occasionally getting all items as new in this conference--instead
of where I left off a day or two [or three] earlier.  From my post I made
earlier, it doesn't sound like anyone else is having this problem.
mcnally
response 144 of 260: Mark Unseen   Jan 26 00:37 UTC 2006

 Nobody else has mentioned it.  I took a look at the permissions on your
 conference participation files and they look OK, but perhaps there's
 something messed up in your .agora56.cf file.  With your permission I'll
 remove it, which will certainly cause you to have to mark things as new
 one more time but might fix your problem thereafter.
slynne
response 145 of 260: Mark Unseen   Jan 26 14:01 UTC 2006

Sometimes when I read the conferences when telnetted in (as opposed to 
reading them on the web), I find that when I exit my participation file 
doesnt get updated which results in symptoms that are similar to what 
Denise is describing. Usually it occurs if I dont exit bbs before 
logging off Grex. 

albaugh
response 146 of 260: Mark Unseen   Jan 26 18:50 UTC 2006

("Doctor, it hurts when I do this."  "Don't do that!")
marcvh
response 147 of 260: Mark Unseen   Jan 26 19:05 UTC 2006

I believe that adding "set autosave" to your config file may help if
that's a frequent problem.
denisea
response 148 of 260: Mark Unseen   Jan 27 02:45 UTC 2006

I don't know how to look at my particpation files, let alone knowing how to
change anything...  [And I do telnet to read the conf. as opposed to reading
on the web. So maybe sometimes I do the same thing slynne does.]
drew
response 149 of 260: Mark Unseen   Jan 27 05:25 UTC 2006

I am still having problems entering responses when dialed in direct. Core dump
if I use my default editor, and "Nasty error" if I define editor vi.
mcnally
response 150 of 260: Mark Unseen   Jan 27 06:19 UTC 2006

 re #148:  If you ask me to, I will remove your conference participation
 file for the current Agora to see if that will fix the problem.  

 re #149:  Does it happen if/when you telnet or ssh in?
drew
response 151 of 260: Mark Unseen   Jan 27 23:13 UTC 2006

No. Entering responses and items works normally via ssh and telnet.
mcnally
response 152 of 260: Mark Unseen   Jan 28 00:19 UTC 2006

 Odd..
mziemba
response 153 of 260: Mark Unseen   Jan 31 23:22 UTC 2006

I tried connecting to Grex via dial-up about a week ago for the first time 
in a while and ran into an odd terminal emulation issue on the Grex end.  
I couldn't access pine to read my e-mail because it interpreted my 
terminal type as "dial-up."

So, I went to the Grex menu system to change my terminal.  I defined my 
terminal as VT100 and Grex seemed to register it as such, but when I tried 
to read mail via pine it told me again that my terminal was "dialup" and 
wouldn't allow me to access mail via pine.  Why wouldn't Grex register the 
correct terminal type on dial-in even after it was told what that type 
would be?  It seems like Grex is forcing a terminal type called "dialup" 
on dial-in users.

I'm dialing in on a Mac running Mac OS 9.2 and Zterm 1.1b7.

I would still like to access Grex via dial-up locally on occasion, as I 
don't always have access to a high-speed internet connection.  I like Grex 
because I don't need e-mail to be anything other than text, and it's been 
nice to have a consistent e-mail address since finding Grex in Ann Arbor 
in the mid-1990s.

On another note, I can't seem to use a secure shell to get to Grex via an 
Internet connection anymore, either.  I have to use plain old telnet, 
which isn't terribly secure.  What's going on there?
other
response 154 of 260: Mark Unseen   Feb 1 02:58 UTC 2006

I'm still not getting Backtalk buttons enabled when they should be. 
Jan?  Steve (Weiss)?
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