You are not logged in. Login Now
 0-13   13-37   38-62   63-87   88-112   113-137   138-162   163-187   188-212 
 213-219          
 
Author Message
25 new of 219 responses total.
krj
response 13 of 219: Mark Unseen   Jan 7 19:52 UTC 2002

My understanding of the AHRA is somewhat different than gull's in 
resp:11.  My recollection of the text is that consumers are 
"immunized from suit" for any copyright action involving the non-commercial
use of digital recorders using SCMS (serial copy management system)
and royalty-paid blank digital media.
 
But that is far from saying that any copying involving non-royalty-media
is an illegal infringement.  Orrin Hatch, who was a principal author
on most recent copyright legislation, and Hilary Rosen of the RIAA had
a vigorous dispute on the subject of what consumers could do with 
copies they had made; this is far from a settled issue.
 
Speaking of the AHRA: here's a news story where Rep. Rick Boucher questions
whether the CD copy-prevention schemes being tested by the music labels
are legal, under the AHRA compromise:
 
http://www.newsbytes.com/news/02/173429.html
gull
response 14 of 219: Mark Unseen   Jan 7 19:57 UTC 2002

I don't know if it's ever been tested in court.  krj seems to be right 
that it's just immunity from suit that's the issue.  Here's what the 
RIAA claims:

http://www.riaa.org/Copyright-Laws-4.cfm

--

The Audio Home Recording Act of 1992 (AHRA)

This 1992 legislation exempts consumers from lawsuits for copyright 
violations when they record music for private, noncommercial use; eases 
access to advanced digital audio recording technologies; provides for 
the payment of modest royalties to songwriters and recording artists 
and companies; and mandates the inclusion of serial copying management 
technology in all consumer digital audio recorders to limit multi-
generation audio copying (i.e., making copies of copies). 

In general, the AHRA covers devices that are designed or marketed for 
the primary purpose of making digital musical recordings. Digital audio 
cassette players, minidisc players, and DAT players are devices covered 
by the AHRA. This law will also apply to all future digital audio 
recording technologies, so Congress will not be forced to revisit the 
issue as each new product becomes available.

The AHRA provides that manufacturers (not consumers) of covered devices 
must: (1) register with the Copyright Office; (2) pay a statutory 
royalty on each device and piece of media sold; and (3) implement 
serial copyright management technology (such as SCMS) which prevents 
the production of copies of copies. In exchange for this, the 
manufacturers of the devices receive statutory immunity from 
infringement based on the use of those devices by consumers. To learn 
more about the administration of the royalties paid on recording 
devices and media, see the section on AARC.

Multipurpose devices, such as a general computer or a CD-ROM drive, are 
not covered by the AHRA. This means that they are not required to pay 
royalties or incorporate SCMS protections. It also means, however, that 
neither manufacturers of the devices, nor the consumers who use them, 
receive immunity from suit for copyright infringement.

--

Here's the relevent section of the U.S. code, since the link on that 
site seems to be broken:
http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/ch10.html

Realistically, given the number of lawyers and U.S. lawmakers the RIAA 
owns, if their interpretation isn't the law, it might as well be.
gull
response 15 of 219: Mark Unseen   Jan 7 20:01 UTC 2002

There's an article in today's Free Press about Pressplay and MusicNet.  

http://www.freep.com/entertainment/music/mnet7_20020107.htm

The basic conclusion is that the clumsiness and limitations of the 
services, and the fact that the record companies are withholding their 
best-selling material so as not to cut into CD sales, make them not 
really worth subscribing to.
krj
response 16 of 219: Mark Unseen   Jan 8 22:26 UTC 2002

I was looking for some clue as to how many people had signed up for 
the Pressplay and Musicnet services.  All I can find so far is a 
ZDnet story from late december, about a week after the new services
were launched.
 
http://news.zdnet.co.uk/story/0,,t269-s2101670,00.html

quote:
> The figures from Download.com support his observation. 
> Music fans are downloading rogue
> software that allows users to swap music files through 
> online services Kazaa, Morpheus Music
> City and Audiogalaxy, to name a few, at a clip of more 
> than three million per week. 

> In contrast, Real Network's RealOne media player -- 
> the software associated with MusicNet --
> was downloaded 7,506 times during the past week, 
> according to Download.com. 
aruba
response 17 of 219: Mark Unseen   Jan 9 03:17 UTC 2002

Could someone give me a rundown of the various sucessors to Napster in the
arena of free downloading?
gull
response 18 of 219: Mark Unseen   Jan 9 15:29 UTC 2002

Incidentally, a trojan was recently found in Kazaa, Grokster, and the 
Limewire Gnutella Client.  See: 
http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/4/23532.html
other
response 19 of 219: Mark Unseen   Jan 9 15:50 UTC 2002

Amazing!  They can deliver condoms by computer now?
krj
response 20 of 219: Mark Unseen   Jan 10 17:22 UTC 2002

Slashdot points to a good summary article at EE Times about 
the Consumer Electronics Show.  The hook is about plans to come up 
with some sort of system to stifle unauthorized video exchanges on 
the Internet, but the bulk of the article is more generally 
about: (Quote:)
 
> Indeed, a battlefield rife with enmity between systems makers and
> music, movie and video producers was perhaps one of the ugliest
> parts of the industry on display at CES. Multiple panel sessions
> expressed worries and lobbed barbs over frustrations stemming from a
> variety of standoffs retarding the development of digital media
> markets. 
>
> Among the many outstanding issues:  ...   ((see the links))

http//www.eet.com/story/OEG20020109S0062
http://slashdot.org/yro/02/01/09/2226244.shtml

Also, the dead-tree edition of USA Today has a preview of the new 
for-pay Napster service.  Napster thinks its chat and bbs functions 
will give it an edge.  Versions of the story probably available on
other online media.
krj
response 21 of 219: Mark Unseen   Jan 10 18:11 UTC 2002

Excellent long summary article by Mike Godwin, a lawyer long active in
Internet issues, on the war between the Content Industry and the 
Tech Industry, and how the Content Industry intends to force 
the dismantling of the general-purpose computer as we know it,
and the Internet as we know it, through Hollings' SSSCA bill.

The Tech Industry wants to empower "users", while the Content 
Industry plans to keep "consumers" as passive as possible.

http://cryptome.org/mpaa-v-net-mg.htm
gull
response 22 of 219: Mark Unseen   Jan 11 20:05 UTC 2002

Philips has declared that CD copy protection techniques violate the CD-
DA standard.  They note that they could refuse to license CDs that use 
them:

http://www.newscientist.com/news/news.jsp?id=ns99991783
krj
response 23 of 219: Mark Unseen   Jan 11 21:09 UTC 2002

Coinciding with the Consumer Electronics Show is the second 
Future of Music conference, brought to you by Jenny Toomey's Future  of
Music Coalition, which is weighted heavily towards indie artists.
Washington Post has a story about the conference, which is pretty quiet 
this year.  As at the CES, the dominant theme seems to be gridlock:
 
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A22972-2002Jan9.html

Quote:
> ...but after umpteen panels and dozens of aria-length questions 
> from the audience, the clearest lesson was this: The music industry 
> today looks a whole lot like the end of a John Woo movie.
>
> You know, the climactic moment when the heroes and villains -- maybe 
> three or four of them -- take out guns, point them at one another and 
> freeze, each waiting for a false move and an excuse to shoot. In the 
> decades before modems and PCs went mainstream, the business gradually 
> and painstakingly split the music pie down to the last half-penny. 
> Now everyone is paralyzed, horrified by the idea that this online 
> world will rearrange the portions and leave some people with less 
> than they had before. 
>
> Weapons are drawn. Lawyers have been retained. Nobody is budging.


 
The Post also offers a fairly critical view of the new for-pay services.
Nothing new here, though their writer does think that indie-rock fans may
find some appeal in the "rhapsody" service from listen.com:
 
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A22922-2002Jan9.html
polygon
response 24 of 219: Mark Unseen   Jan 13 08:03 UTC 2002

Letter to RIAA & IFPI heads from Congressman Rick Boucher - Jan. 4, 2002

http://www.dotcomscoop.com/article.php?sid=80

January 4, 2002

Ms. Hilary B. Rosen
President and Chief Executive Officer
Recording Industry Association of America
1330 Connecticut Avenue, N.W.
Suite 300
Washington, D.C. 20036

Mr. Jay Berman
Chairman and Chief Executive
IFPI
54 Regent Street
London W1B 5RE
United Kingdom

Dear Hilary and Jay:

According to many published reports, record labels have begun releasing
compact discs into the market which apparently have been designed to
limit the ability of consumers to play the discs or record on personal
computers and perhaps on other popular consumer products, such as DVD
players, video game consoles, and even some CD players, for traditional
fair-use purposes such as space shifting. I am particularly concerned
that some of these technologies may prevent or inhibit consumer home
recording using recorders and media covered by the Audio Home Recording
Act of 1992 (AHRA).

As you know from your personal involvement in its drafting, the AHRA
clearly requires content owners to code their material appropriately to
implement a basic compromise: in return for the receipt of royalties on
compliant recorders and media, copyright owners may not preclude
consumers from making a first-generation, digital-to-digital copy of an
album on a compliant device using royalty-paid media. Under the AHRA,
any deliberate change to a CD by a content owner that makes one
generation of digital recording from the CD on covered devices no longer
possible would appear to violate the content owner's obligations under
the statute.

To understand better the implications of this new technology for
consumers, I would appreciate your providing answers to the following
questions:

1. What methods have been used or are planned for use by your member
companies to alter CD content or ancillary encoding so as to constrain
functions of personal computers or other devices? Do these methods
involve the injection of intentional errors? Do these methods involve
compressed audio files separate from the CD-quality tracks?

2. Based upon your knowledge and upon any consumer contact received by
your member companies, have any discs entered the U.S. market that may
not be copied on a device or on media for which a royalty has been paid
under the AHRA?

3. What steps, if any, have your member companies taken to inform
consumers, retailers, or device manufacturers about the restrictions and
which of their discs have been or will be altered?

4. What steps, if any, have been taken by your member companies to
assure that the introduction of intentional errors as to encoded music,
or other technical means to block copying, will not detract from sound
quality or cause responses in equipment that could damage speakers?

5. Would you and your member companies support independent testing of
the effect on sound quality, on listening behavior, and on the
performance and operation of home networks, before these technologies
appear more widely in the U.S. market? Assuming you and your member
companies support such testing, are you prepared to provide assurances
that no assertion would be made that these tests and any peer review of
the tests would violate the Digital Millennium Copyright Act?

Given the recent announcements from some record companies that they
intend the broad introduction in 2002 of copy protected discs, I would
appreciate a prompt response to this inquiry.

Thanking you for your time and attention to this matter, I remain

Sincerely,

Rick Boucher
Member of Congress
krj
response 25 of 219: Mark Unseen   Jan 14 19:23 UTC 2002

A columnist for Billboard lectures the music biz on how it is ignoring
consumers:
 
http://www.billboard.com/billboard/musictomyears/index.jsp

Quotes:

> One hopes we all still wish to sell records.

and, somewhat confusing:

> Judging from the poor reaction to the clumsy new Web music 
> subscription services, the likelihood of fans opting to only "rent" 
> music they once owned/controlled in physical form is slim.
>
> As people inside and outside the industry are realizing, mere recorded 
> music is not that important or special to people unless those directly 
> involved can enhance both its real and perceived value. In the film 
> realm, DVD-Video has thus far managed but it needs to go farther. 
> The music world had better catch up quickly and dramatically between 
> now and next Christmas, because the public isn't interested in the 
> music industry's opinion of itself -- it's only interested in maximum 
> music choices with maximum ease and, yes, even greater post-digital 
> audio merit. And they won't be bullied into paying through the nose
> for a bad bargain.
other
response 26 of 219: Mark Unseen   Jan 14 20:05 UTC 2002

Confusing?  It sounds like an incitement to include more content (live 
the special features on DVDs) in order to justify the different pricing 
model and as a way to ease the annoyance of music buyers.
krj
response 27 of 219: Mark Unseen   Jan 16 05:27 UTC 2002

mp3newswire.net has a review of the new for-pay Napster written by 
one of its beta testers.
 
http://www.mp3newswire.net/stories/2002/paynapster.html
krj
response 28 of 219: Mark Unseen   Jan 17 14:42 UTC 2002

The New York Times has a story on "Napster culture" now moving on to 
downloading and trading TV shows and movies, as bandwidth and 
disk sizes increase.
 
http://www.nytimes.com/2002/01/17/technology/circuits/17VIDE.html
"Black Hawk Download: Pirated Videos Thrive Online"
 
The store includes a visit with an Internet video collector 
in Ann Arbor.  :)
krj
response 29 of 219: Mark Unseen   Jan 17 22:55 UTC 2002

Lots of stuff today...
 
KaZaa has stopped offering their filesharing client for download at 
http://www.kazaa.com.  This does not appear to affect the operation of 
clients already downloaded, though there are rumors that the KaZaa 
company may be able to shut off its clients operating on the FastTrack
network.  http://mp3newswire.net has more.  Also Cnet at:
http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1005-200-8513895.html?tag=mn_hd
 
-----
 
Another Cnet story reports on an attempt to get everyone to agree 
on a no-copy flag for the digitial TV bitstream.   Theoretically this
flag is to be turned into a standard, and then into hardware, in time
for the Federal deadline for all TV to be broadcast digitally in
May.  Um, right.

http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1005-200-8516912.html?tag=mn_hd

-----

Finally, Slashdot publicizes and rips to shreds a website put up by
Universal Music Group to try to explain and justify their CD-copy-
prevention scheme.  UMG CDs now contain a software license which appears
to forbid loaning the disc, and which certainly brings consumers under
crypto export controls.  Slashdot's story and rude comments are at
http://slashdot.org/articles/02/01/17/1335204.shtml

Universal's own site is at http://www.musichelponline.com


krj
response 30 of 219: Mark Unseen   Jan 18 18:36 UTC 2002

Somewhere back up there someone was looking for a roundup of current
file sharing stuff.  Slashdot today had a response pointing to 
http://www.afternapster.com   which reviews 101 such systems.
 
Also, I haven't got a link, but I've seen news stories about the 
Soundscan weekly sales charts, and they are still trending downwards.
One analyst in one story somewhere is projecting a 3% decline for 
the CD business in 2002.
aruba
response 31 of 219: Mark Unseen   Jan 18 23:58 UTC 2002

Thanks Ken.
gull
response 32 of 219: Mark Unseen   Jan 21 14:01 UTC 2002

http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/4/23736.html

Summary:  Philips is continuing to insist that CDs using the current 
copy protection schemes can't bear the official Compact Disc logo.  
(Though since the logo is usually inside, on the disc, this still might 
not provide a good way to identify them before buying.)  Philips' 
general manager has also said that the company will be building CD 
burners that can read and burn copies of the copy-protected CDs.  He 
argues this won't be illegal under the DMCA because the "copy-
protection" scheme isn't a protection system, it's a method of 
preventing the playback of music.

It should be a very interesting legal battle if they actually go 
through with this.
krj
response 33 of 219: Mark Unseen   Jan 21 18:07 UTC 2002

More on the classical music crash from andante.com:
 
http://www.andante.com/magazine/article.cfm?id=15643
 
From 1999 to 2001, the classical music CD business lost 20%
of its sales in the USA.   USA sales lag far below Europe;
classical is down to about 1.8% of the market in the US, but 
8% (and on an upward trend) in Britain, 7% in France (but trending
downwards from 10% earlier in the decade), 11% and rising in the 
Netherlands.
 
Harmonia Mundi, one of the classical independent label/distributors 
hit hard by financial troubles at Tower Records, has responded 
by slashing the number of CD titles they distribute in half.
To take the optimistic view, they should now be a stronger 
company.
other
response 34 of 219: Mark Unseen   Jan 21 18:30 UTC 2002

The CD logo often appears on the back of liner notes inserts or on the 
back of the CD package, but not consistently enough to be able to tell 
anything by it.

What does the logo signify?  Compliance with the red book encoding 
standard?
gull
response 35 of 219: Mark Unseen   Jan 21 19:07 UTC 2002

Specifically, it indicates the CD is licensed by Philips, which holds 
the CD-DA patents (at least for another year or two.)  I think 
complying with the red book standard is part of the rules for making a 
licensed CD.
tpryan
response 36 of 219: Mark Unseen   Jan 21 23:29 UTC 2002

re 33:  Must be all those classical fans downloading on the internet!
krj
response 37 of 219: Mark Unseen   Jan 22 14:43 UTC 2002

resp:29 ::  Slashdot collects/points to a bunch of stuff about Kazaa.
It appears the operation has been sold to a company in Australia which 
intends to charge for its use; however, there are also rumors that 
the company buying Kazaa can't be found in directories of Australian
firms.   The Kazaa file trading client is once again available for 
download, the articles say.
 
Weird.
 
http://slashdot.org/articles/02/01/21/1621223.shtml
 0-13   13-37   38-62   63-87   88-112   113-137   138-162   163-187   188-212 
 213-219          
Response Not Possible: You are Not Logged In
 

- Backtalk version 1.3.30 - Copyright 1996-2006, Jan Wolter and Steve Weiss