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jaklumen
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response 13 of 40:
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May 30 07:59 UTC 2002 |
resp:8 and resp:11 So what the hell is happycore?
resp:7 Go back and look.. it's going to take some persuasion.
resp:11 hmmm.. I must have been totally in the wrong frame of mind. I
experienced techno at an actual club. The "rave" I went to was pretty
intense-- the club had disco balls, moving blue lights, black lights,
TV screens and a smoke machine already, but they added a professional
laser light show, overhead projector cartoons, a new Bose system with
wicked bass.
Y'see, though drugs have been muy, muy tempting-- in an atmosphere
like that, I'd rather just be naturally juiced up. See, at the time,
I was untreated for manic-depressive.. uh, never mind =) but really,
I think X and other club drugs are just bad juju.
resp:12 Yeah, I totally understand that-- sometimes it's taking a
risk, I guess. See item:50 again. You just buy a compilation track
and hope it's good, but yeah, that's generally not the big way to go.
When MTV did amp, that was helpful, but they killed the show.
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mynxcat
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response 14 of 40:
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May 30 13:49 UTC 2002 |
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jaklumen
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response 15 of 40:
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May 31 00:09 UTC 2002 |
I doubt it. MTV was trying to spark interest by showing connections
between hip-hop and techno, which very well may have been: Techno was
developed in Detroit (I fail to remember where this was mentioned in
the previous music cf, and who said it), and the Motor City also
developed the hip-hop sound in the States quite a bit.
The show was playing Run-DMC and some other early hip-hop when they
weren't doing other techno like the Chemical Brothers or what have you.
I don't know about VH1-- it's part of the original MTV Networks and is
part of Viacom (Nickelodeon is a part, too-- it was a little Canadian
station sucked up into MTV Networks in the early days of cable). It
will depend largely on when the youth market drops the genre (i.e. the
Millenials/Gen Y) and when the young adult/middle-age market decides
they must keep it (i.e., Generation X).
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emblem
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response 16 of 40:
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May 31 00:55 UTC 2002 |
re: 13 Clubs are a great place to listen to it, and depending where you
are, the better the place to do it. There are clubs the music, and then there
are clubs for hooking up. You can hook up with someone at any club, but some
places emphasize a 'rave' experience more than others. There are places also
that are techno but extacy just wouldnt work, others do.
Also, if you have comcast, the dance and origens music channels are a good
place to start to listen and find a few songs in techno you like, write it
down , and then research on other songs or cds by that artist, or look for
mix and compilation cds that have that song, i found two cds lately that way,
and they are relly good techno. Easy way to find new music at home while
cooking on the grill or something while looking for some new music.
and then dare i say it...sex, extacy, and the right techno music, heh. that
could be a whole new topic item in itself.
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jaklumen
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response 17 of 40:
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May 31 03:47 UTC 2002 |
Noo. I'm sure X is ultimately bad juju.
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jonny290
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response 18 of 40:
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Jun 1 02:55 UTC 2002 |
Heh. I've got to put in my two cents here.
I'm a drum and bass DJ out of Fayetteville, AR. You guys can listen to
what I do at http://www.djjonny290.com - (lynx friendly :)). Anyways,
i'm pretty much totally immersed in electronic music. Current styles
and DJ's i'm into:
Any drum and bass, really. US stuff is getting better every day.
Detroit stuff is neat. Richie Hawtin is amazing. So's Carl Cox.
IDM is my closet passion - i'll put on my Squarepusher vinyl when I
feel like going nuts, hehe.
And drugs are bad at parties, mmmkay? heh. We're fighting a constant
battle to keep parties legal, and this is the single biggest factor
against us.
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mynxcat
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response 19 of 40:
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Jun 1 15:37 UTC 2002 |
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craammy
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response 20 of 40:
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Jun 1 16:30 UTC 2002 |
I am not much of a techo-music fan myself, though there has been times when
I have heard some techo music ( while radio surfing, in clubs etc. ). However,
I suggest you listen to the first album by Kraftwork, which features the song
"we are the robots" - that album was one of the first to bring techno music
to the forefront and still remains one of the best. The Robert Miles album
that features the "dream" song is also kind of good.
Au revoir
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foobaz
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response 21 of 40:
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Jun 1 17:53 UTC 2002 |
Re: 13 Happycore short for happy hardcore. Hardcore is a type of techno
that is very fast (around 180bpm) and usually has a bass drum on every beat.
It's usually less subtle and more powerful than other types of techno. So
happy hardcore is a powerful hardcore beat with really cheesy melodies and
women singing in high voices about love.
The bass rhythm is really nice when you're on E, as is the cheesy melody and
cheesy singing, so E-tards usually like it a lot. The genre doesn't get much
respect from jaded ravers, it's mostly the 15 year old candy kids who listen
to it.
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mynxcat
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response 22 of 40:
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Jun 1 18:11 UTC 2002 |
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jaklumen
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response 23 of 40:
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Jun 1 23:15 UTC 2002 |
resp:20 I don't think German band Kraftwerk was defined as techno
when it first started-- I believe they were instead labeled
as "programming." I can't be sure when the label "techno" came into
existence, because I don't remember hearing of it until the early 90's.
Techno as far as I know had its roots in Detroit and was an outgrowth
of early hip-hop. See the previous music conference.
The UK/Europe sound, on the other hand, was known as "New Wave,"
generally. Without a doubt, Kraftwerk had a strong influence on some
of the main New Wave groups. Philip Oakley of the Human League
explains on the audio liner notes of "The Very Best Of" that founder
Martin Ware was inspired by Kraftwerk's "Transeurope Express" and
Donna Summer's "I Feel Love". Daniel Miller, longtime producer to the
band Depeche Mode, explained in a VH1 "Behind the Music" interview
that he was looking for a pop group with a Kraftwerk-like sound and
found it in DM.
Kraftwerk fused dance beats with many of their hits on the 1991
recording "The Mix." This may have been a response to the technopop
sound they later inspired, but it is rather premature to say their
first album brought techno to the forefront. Their sound was merely a
forerunner and their primary recordings lacked the danceable beat that
defines techno.
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cyklone
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response 24 of 40:
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Jun 2 04:23 UTC 2002 |
Kraftwerk has been identified by many of Detroit's techno pioneers as
being one of their prime inspirations when they created the techno sound.
But you are right in the sense that when Kraftwerk was making the albums
that provided that inspiration, the sound Kraftwerk created was not
called techno.
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jaklumen
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response 25 of 40:
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Jun 2 08:01 UTC 2002 |
Right. I can understand that. It's pretty apparent Kraftwerk
influenced a lot of groups and a lot of electronica genres.
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emblem
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response 26 of 40:
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Jun 3 02:32 UTC 2002 |
this really doesnt follow the current discussion at the moment about Kraftwerk
and detriot techno but i do think its important to note that the two biggest
areas on the east side of the US that really brought techno on strongly was
New York and Chicago. Chicago has a claim in my opinion to bringing house into
the scene as a main techno flavor, with of course respect being paid to DJ
Bad Boy Bill, one of my all time favorites. His talent far exceeds many out
there, and hes been an influence to DJs since he got started. MIXER did a
story on him - "How Bad Boy Bill built his DJ empire". If you are looking for
information on DJs, clubs, new cd releases, euro- and american, this is a
great magazine to read.
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chadadam
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response 27 of 40:
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Jun 5 02:14 UTC 2002 |
hey if you are looking into hearing some phat break beats Simply Jeff's new
album out on Moonshine is supposedly bangin... I personally enjoy hard house
more than any other techno but have a collection that ranges from trance to
drum and bass to happy hardcore and back around again.. I really get into some
good deep GOA when I am in the mood... Well, hope this helps anyone looking
for a good CD it was recommended to me by a DJ friend in NC who has a record
coming out soon... I'll let you know how good it is. His name is DJ Freezah
Well, enjoy your partying kids.. Take care.
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mynxcat
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response 28 of 40:
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Jun 5 13:53 UTC 2002 |
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ooruss
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response 29 of 40:
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Jun 6 21:20 UTC 2002 |
w00t techno finaly somthign i feel like responding to. my first real techno
was dj skribbles 'techno smurf' its really good. I would have to say he is
my favorite 'DJ'. The type i listing to depends on my mood. 'Name of the game'
is a real good song also. i also like 'OVER THE LINe' da da
dat. well i like to see i am not the only one who sits lock in his dark room
with only black light and gets a buzz from energy drinks while he listing to
techno. I FEEL LOVED!
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emblem
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response 30 of 40:
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Jun 7 00:14 UTC 2002 |
energy drinks? heh, not the usual drug of choice for techno, but hey, ill try
anything once. :) techno is my coffee, i jam it in the morning to work.
"welcome to the asphalt jungle, where our muses make the game. do you wanna
come along? do you wanna play? cmon baby ill send you down deep into the
underground....." somehow its seems like when i used to listen to techno,
water was a preferred drink. lights? my place has a laser light hooked to
the stereo, blacklight, lightning plate, and DVDs with graphics to techno
music. and i only have a 1 bedroom small apartment, which makes the cordless
headphones for those late nights of light and sound seem perfect.
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jaklumen
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response 31 of 40:
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Jun 7 00:33 UTC 2002 |
DJ Skribbles doing techno? Hmmm, he struck me more as old skool.
'Razhel vs. DJ Skribbles'
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emblem
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response 32 of 40:
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Jun 9 19:02 UTC 2002 |
oh yeah, i got a strobe light buried in the closet somewhere.....i should dig
it out again.
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polytarp
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response 33 of 40:
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Jun 9 20:22 UTC 2002 |
WHAT ABOUT ATR AND
NEGATIVLAND.
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jaklumen
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response 34 of 40:
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Jun 10 02:14 UTC 2002 |
Future Sound of London would be included too, wouldn't it?
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polytarp
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response 35 of 40:
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Jun 13 22:45 UTC 2002 |
YEAH, but can' frget Tommy Knuckles.
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dx33
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response 36 of 40:
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Aug 29 00:07 UTC 2002 |
I am ll about some Trance. MY favorite Trance dj is a US local, Christopher
Lawrence, who I've seen twice (well I kinda saw him the first time, actually
about 3 of him ). My favorite track to date is a tie between Chris Lawrence's
"Renegade" and the Pimpkin Club's "Mekong". As of late I am becoming very
bored with the new electronic music coming out. It doesn't matter if it is
euro, house, it just isn't very inovative. A lot of new stuff that is coming
out and seems to be the new "popular" genre is electro. I like electro, but
most of the stuff I am hearing is minimal electro which is just band music
in my opinion. I also write my own music and have an E.P. which I am
circulating locally (as if that many ppl in my part of the south even listen
to electronic music). I will be working on my follow up shortly, where I am
in talks with a small record labbel out of Starkville, MS. My new stuff is
going to be influeneced by a lot of strange things, namely 90's grunge/punk.
Weird huh. Well gotta to go. Keep dancing.
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z0mb13
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response 37 of 40:
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Oct 17 22:26 UTC 2002 |
hi - saw the question about hard house and i couldn't resist. i spin hard
house in the baltimore area, but i also like techno, jungle, straight (and
gay hahahhaha) house and a whole bunch of others, and yes i detest happy
hardcore as being a candy kid's nightmare they forced on the rest of us :)
one has to differentiate between U.S. hard house and U.K. hard house. in my
opinion U.K. hard house is a lot more mature and better to listen to, it's
a touch slower and more rhythmical and less bass happy, but then i could be
prejudiced here :). some good U.S. hard house people - bad boy bill (already
mentioned), dj venom, dj irene (she has two really good cd's you should check
out), and bubblehedz is pretty good as well. as for U.K. hard house, the
queen of all the hard house dj's is lisa lashes (She rocks!) but also check
out anne savage, bk, fergie, andy farley and lee haslem. all of this used
to be on audiogalaxy (R.I.P.!!) but probably could all be found on kazaa as
well. before anyone starts screaming about copyrights and paying the artists,
almost all of the downloadable tracks are from live shows, which aren't even
available on cd and are usually a lot better. if you're going to start with
any of them, download lisa lashes' "live on slam fm" part one is better than
part two but they are both awesome.
progressive house is pretty good as well, check out mauro picotto and deep
dish (they're a bit slower). dj dan is probably my thrd favorite dj and has
some of the best cd's, he's from chicago, as well as green velvet/dj kashmir
who is either from chicago or detroit, but he is interesting because he sings
LIVE it's quite amazing to see.
if you want a good place to listen to this stuff, try the following links:
BBC Radio 1 is probably the best:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/dance
they have shows from a number of good dj's - check out fergie's show, judge
jules' show and of course the essential mix (with pete tong)
ministry of sound radio is also great:
http://www.ministryofsound.com/music/radio
both of the above links are from the UK. they also will tell you track
listings, so you can get to know what you like and actually tell which songs
are done by who.. this is good for dj's like me who get to listen while at
work (this is a new thing having internet access at work :) happy happy!) and
write down any slamming songs i hear during the day, bad thing is that they're
hard to find since a lot of them are uk only.
anyways happy listening!
derek
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