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keesan
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response 13 of 115:
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Apr 15 01:17 UTC 2010 |
I am one of the last modem users. It is quicker to boot into DOS and use
kermit to access grex, and it responds faster than if I go via dialinfree,
but I vote to drop the lines. I can't use DOS with a PCI modem anyway and
I have a whole bunch of computers without ISA slots now.
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slynne
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response 14 of 115:
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Apr 15 02:49 UTC 2010 |
I say if Sindi Keesan says drop the lines, the lines should be dropped!
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rcurl
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response 15 of 115:
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Apr 15 04:17 UTC 2010 |
I saw my modem the other day. I don't think it will work with any computer
I now use....and I'm not going to waste my time trying to make it work.
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lar
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response 16 of 115:
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Apr 15 04:58 UTC 2010 |
It might be wise to keep one line.
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keesan
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response 17 of 115:
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Apr 15 13:57 UTC 2010 |
My external modems work with all my computers but there are some newer models
without serial ports now.
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tsty
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response 18 of 115:
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Apr 16 14:22 UTC 2010 |
ok, dump both.
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mary
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response 19 of 115:
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Apr 16 15:11 UTC 2010 |
I agree.
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jadecat
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response 20 of 115:
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Apr 16 15:39 UTC 2010 |
resp:14 Yeah, that was my thought too. ;)
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zulu
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response 21 of 115:
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Apr 16 16:39 UTC 2010 |
Keep the phone lines. Dump Grex.
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keesan
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response 22 of 115:
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Apr 16 16:55 UTC 2010 |
Keep grex, dump twits.
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richard
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response 23 of 115:
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Apr 16 18:26 UTC 2010 |
What if grex's 'net server goes down and it is off the internet for a
time. it happens. If the 'net is down and there are no phone lines,
grex would be totally inaccessible.
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bellstar
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response 24 of 115:
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Apr 16 18:34 UTC 2010 |
The probabiliy of Grex's connection to the Internet going down is extremely
small compared to the probability of Grex itself going down (which happens
every once in a while). When Grex itself is down phone lines can't do much,
unless they are used to remotely power cycle or debug for which I doubt Grex
has the required hardware. Just saying from the technical point of view. I
don't think I get a say in keeping or ditching the phone lines in question.
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kentn
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response 25 of 115:
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Apr 16 18:56 UTC 2010 |
Right. During the recent several-week outage, the phone lines did
nothing that I know of to help the situation (and we had to pay for a
month of their use to boot). There has been prior discussion of getting
the hardware (card) that would allow remote reboots. It's not expensive
and might save staff time going to the co-lo to do the work. But we do
have more staff members with access to where Grex's machine is located
and they have expressed a willingness to go there and get it going again
if it needs a reboot.
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jgelinas
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response 26 of 115:
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Apr 18 16:53 UTC 2010 |
If the 'net connection' is down, getting to grex by telephone line won't
do a lot of good: there won't be anyone here to talk to.
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wlevak
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response 27 of 115:
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Apr 19 01:28 UTC 2010 |
Grex has already decided to discontinue dial up connections. They decided
that wen they: 1.) failed to upgrade the old 14.4k modems (who's going to
connect at 14.4k anymore. and 2.) installed a new system where dial up file
transfer is slower and more difficult.
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tonster
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response 28 of 115:
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Apr 19 02:34 UTC 2010 |
really, if you're still using dial-up to connect to grex you're doing
something wrong. There's just no reason not to use another ISP and
telnet/ssh/browser here.
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keesan
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response 29 of 115:
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Apr 19 15:27 UTC 2010 |
Direct dial connections even at 14.4K are better than ssh/telnet connections
via dialup connection to ISP. Also I can print screen via DOS but not linux.
By the way, Bill Levak tested out a bunch of faster modems for grex, which
grex never bothered to set up and use.
I find it annoying when people insist that their way of doing things is always
best under all circumstances.
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richard
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response 30 of 115:
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Apr 19 18:50 UTC 2010 |
would more people dial in if grex decided to keep the dialins and
decided to buy the faster modems?
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keesan
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response 31 of 115:
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Apr 19 19:15 UTC 2010 |
The faster modems are free, we already have them but nobody bothered to take
Bill there to install them.
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kentn
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response 32 of 115:
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Apr 19 20:56 UTC 2010 |
Re 30: I doubt it. Modems are pretty much gone at a lot of places. UM
dropped them years back due to rapidly declining use. If people have
access to reasonably priced broadband they usually go for it. Or else
they go with a dial-in ISP and then come in via the Internet. There
is always the potential cost of long-distance (depending on your phone
plan) if you dial-in directly from out of the area. So it's probably
mostly local calls making the dial-in. You really don't need all that
fast a modem to do command line Grex at a reasonable speed. Likely,
those dialing in accepted what they were given in terms of modem speed
without questioning it (with at least one exception).
I doubt we want to promote modem usage at this point for both
maintenance and budget reasons.
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tod
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response 33 of 115:
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Apr 19 21:01 UTC 2010 |
Reminds me of the guy in Hangover asking if his pager will work in the casino
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unicorn
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response 34 of 115:
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Apr 20 00:00 UTC 2010 |
Re: #27
What is this "new system where dial up file transfer is slower and more
difficult"? What was the old system?
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cross
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response 35 of 115:
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Apr 20 06:16 UTC 2010 |
resp:29 "I find it annoying when people insist that their way of doing
things is always best under all circumstances."
Uh, hey pot? It's for you; Kettle's calling.
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lar
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response 36 of 115:
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Apr 20 07:59 UTC 2010 |
it might be wise to keep one line
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cross
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response 37 of 115:
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Apr 20 09:11 UTC 2010 |
For what, I wonder?
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