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mcnally
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response 13 of 306:
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Dec 29 06:11 UTC 2003 |
re #10, re #4: yes, s/or/of/
"Denethor's chewing of scenery and other things.."
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md
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response 14 of 306:
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Dec 29 12:37 UTC 2003 |
IMDb is carrying some criticism of Peter Pan by its users about what
they see as inappropriate sexual tension between Peter and Wendy. The
scenes in question struck me as the old-fashioned (circa 1950) type of
movie love, where one kiss by a pretty girl can send your spirits (can
send *you*, in Peter's case) soaring with happiness. There was that,
plus a little pop psychologizing about Peter's inability to feel deep
emotions, and about the healing power of Wendy's willingness to show
her affection for him.
I don't want to give the whole thing away, but I should at least point
out here that the actor who plays Peter is the only American in the
cast, and he is very conspicuously so. Okay, an American who refuses
to grow up, and who bullies a bunch of innocent Brits into taking up
arms and going on childish "adventures"? Ahem.
The movie was executive produced by Mohamed Al-Fayed and dedicated to
the memory of his son Dodi. Personally, I think that's real blood up
there on the screen. Kids will see one thing, their parents might see
another. The best kind of kids' movie.
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janc
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Dec 29 14:50 UTC 2003 |
Haven't seen the new Pan. But a certain amount of sexual tension
wouldn't be out of place. In the book Tinkerbell is described as coming
home drunk from fairy orgies. Tinkerbell also attempts to murder Wendy
to keep from losing Peter to her. Peter himself not only cannot feel
deep emotions, he cannot remember things from day to day. He's a fairly
dangerous playmate, as he'll lead you into a dangerous situation and
then forget you ever existed. The movie "Hook" picked up on a couple of
these themes, to the general bafflement of people familiar with the
sanitized Mary Martin / Disney version of Peter Pan.
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gull
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Dec 29 14:52 UTC 2003 |
Re resp:12: I hear that song was included after it proved popular in the
live musical. I hate it when movies are changed in between their
theatrical release and their video release. Disney does this a lot,
usually for political correctness reasons.
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janc
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response 17 of 306:
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Dec 29 15:16 UTC 2003 |
Recent rentals include "I Take the Castle" and "Pirates of the Caribbean".
The were alike only in being movies that were basically a bit weak but
were largely redeemed by a few terrific performances each. "I Take the
Castle" is an almost too sweet coming of age story, as the daughters of
a flat broke writer living in a broke down castle try to figure out
love. The story is full of quirky eccentricity, but bascially the same
old multiply interlocking romantic triangles kind of plot. Still, the
performances are mostly terrific, the characters are likable and love is
supposed to be the same old story generation after generation.
Pirates had big story problems. It failed to get me interested in most
of the characters problems (why should I care if Jack Sparrow regains
command of the Black Pearl? Why should I care if the curse is broken?
Why should I want to watch immortals who cannot be hurt fighting each
other?). It dragged out and got a bit repetitive. Jack is caught again
and escapes again. Another sword fight. We go around and around a few
too many times. And the happy ending is so contrived and unconvincing
that I figured aliens must have beamed a new brain into Captain
Norrington's head to cause him to change his mind about everything and
everybody. However, though the story arc is a horrible mess, scene by
scene it works, with many fun characters, and inventive incidents and
terrific performances. So it's worth seeing, but best approached with
low expectations.
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janc
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response 18 of 306:
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Dec 30 03:50 UTC 2003 |
Rented "Rabbit Proof Fence". I liked this a lot. It's set in Australia,
where, from 1905 to 1970, it was the policy of the government to remove
half-caste aborigine children from their families and raise them in government
schools where they could learn to be domestic servants. It follows the true
story of three children who escape from the school and walk 1500 miles across
Australia to return home. It's amazingly well done. I strongly recommend
renting the DVD so you can see the little "making of" documentary that is on
the disk. I'm not sure I didn't like the that even better than the movie -
it focuses on the challenge of casting the film - finding three aborigine
child actresses who can carry the entire film when no aborigine child
actresses exist proves a challenge.
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willcome
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response 19 of 306:
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Dec 30 07:56 UTC 2003 |
janc is a SEX CRIMINAL!
Type: HOMOSEXUAL
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aruba
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response 20 of 306:
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Dec 30 17:05 UTC 2003 |
I saw The Last Samurai the day after Christmas. It was very bloody, which
isn't really what I'm into. The teenage boys I went with liked the blood a
lot.
It bothered me that we never really explained what the fighting was about.
Apparently it was because the Samurai were protecting their way of life,
much the same way the American Confederacy was. I didn't see why we
couldn't find a comprmise and merge Samurai ideals with modern technology.
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twenex
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response 21 of 306:
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Dec 30 17:11 UTC 2003 |
Because then it wouldn't have been anywhere near historically accurate?
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tod
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response 22 of 306:
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Dec 30 17:54 UTC 2003 |
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aruba
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response 23 of 306:
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Dec 30 17:55 UTC 2003 |
Well, it's not terribly historically accurate anyway, I gather. But my
point is: yes there was a rebellion of Samurai in 1877, but it was a power
struggle between two sides who were looking out for their own interests.
It wasn't about morality, it was about power.
Why should I care? Why should anyone care, 126 years later? And in
particular, why should we be rooting for one side over the other? In
other words, why make a movie about it?
I'd like to be rooting for the idea that reasonable people can work out
their differences without resorting to killing each other.
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aruba
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response 24 of 306:
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Dec 30 17:56 UTC 2003 |
Todd slipped in - I was responding to twenex in #21.
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tod
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response 25 of 306:
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Dec 30 17:57 UTC 2003 |
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twenex
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response 26 of 306:
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Dec 30 19:03 UTC 2003 |
Re: #23. So would I, but this is real life, not Star Trek.
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tod
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response 27 of 306:
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Dec 30 19:09 UTC 2003 |
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bru
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response 28 of 306:
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Dec 31 00:30 UTC 2003 |
There was a struggle between the Emperor adn the Samurai class. The Samurai
had held the Emperor in awe for centuries, it also meant they held him as a
prisoner. A ruler unable to rule without the consent if the Shogun, who was
the head samurai.
Finally the Emperor was able to thro off the protective yoke and take his
place as ruler.He forbade the samurai to do many of the things they had done
for centurieas,siezed their property, and created an army from peasants, who
had feared the samurai forever. But it was his army, adn he coudl feel safe
from samurai cntrol.
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tod
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response 29 of 306:
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Dec 31 01:02 UTC 2003 |
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richard
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response 30 of 306:
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Dec 31 07:00 UTC 2003 |
I finally saw "WHALE RIDER"-- my five year old niece got it on DVD from
Santa this year and she loved it. Santa has fine taste in movies :) So
we watched it and I found it to be a wonderful movie, the story of a Maori
tribe in New Zealand struggling to reconcile its old ways with the modern
world. The story centers around an eleven year old grandaughter of the
Maori chief who believes deeply that it is her destiny, in spite of tribal
practices that forbid it, that it is her destiny to be the new chief. A
very moving and uplifting movie.
The twelve year old girl the producers discovered to play the lead, Keisha
Castle-Hughes (remember that name) is just wonderful and is being pushed
to be the youngest person ever nominated for Best Actor or Actress. I
hope she gets nominated, and "Whale Rider" deserves to be considered for
Best Picture. The New Zealand scenery was just great too :)
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fitz
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response 31 of 306:
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Dec 31 11:53 UTC 2003 |
The Last Samuri C
I know better to believe all the hyperbole generated by the advertising
departments of studios, but I fell for the advertising campaign for this movie
and expected to see something really special. It's nothing special. It's
far from an awful movie, but the story line suffers on its own and knocking
it for historic inaccuracies might mask a widespread conclusion that the
movie barely entertains. I write this with regret, for everybody seemed to
do their jobs.
Tom Cruise knocked himself out acting, but it just didn't seem to add up to
an academy award. Hans Zimmer's score was serviceablee, but it had
nothing distinctive in it--although I'm glad for his not using variations
on Sakura or Kimigayo anyplace. I concur with the above mentioned
complaints about the gore. The sounds were out of balance and just plain
wrong for the crowd scenes. I will not believe for a moment that the
audience thinks that it hears a mass of hundreds in the overamplified,
sampled and filtered howls of twenty. The flashbacks and nightmares had
shrill noises that had me scrambling for my ear plugs. Do see this movie
with hearing protection.
The lighting and photography were the best I've seen since Gladiator. The
visual aspects of the film are a reason to go and reformatting to fit a
television screen would eliminate the opportunity to enjoy the New Zeeland
landscapes.
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tod
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response 32 of 306:
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Dec 31 18:07 UTC 2003 |
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mynxcat
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response 33 of 306:
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Dec 31 18:26 UTC 2003 |
It was fun till they gouged Johnny Depp's eyes out, and he spent the
rest of the movie with dark glasses and blood-like gooeyness flowing
down his face. Yucky.
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tod
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response 34 of 306:
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Dec 31 18:50 UTC 2003 |
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giry
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response 35 of 306:
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Jan 2 18:17 UTC 2004 |
Agora 30 <-> Cinema 60
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mynxcat
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response 36 of 306:
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Jan 2 19:03 UTC 2004 |
Mona Lisa Smile. (IF you haven't seen the movie, and plan to do so,
skip this)
Watched Mona Lisa Smile last night. Chick flick, yes. Mushy and sappy,
no. Starring Julia Roberts, Julia Stiles, Kirsten Dunst and a couple
of other women that gave pretty good performances. Some men too, but
they were more extras than anything else
Mona Lisa Smile is set in Wellesley College, a conservative women s
university with the brightest female minds of the country. Here
they re taught physics, pre-law, art history and a variety og highly
intellectual subjects. And they re also taught elocution, poise, and
how to be a good wife. The girls are expected to marry and raise
families, never mind their own aspirations. Catherine Watson is the
bohemian teacher from Oakland State, who comes here to make a
difference, and teach these girls that there is more to life for a
woman than marrying and raising a family. And that you can do both, if
you have to.
The movie was interesting on many angles. The costumes were great. And
the bright red lipstick seemed to be the norm of the day. Today,
bright red seems to be sported mainly at parties and the like, very
rarely in schools and businesses. But back in 1953, it seemed the most
natural thing for women s lips to be blood red, never mind that it
clashed with their clothes. Then you have the course where the girls
are taught to be good wives, and mothers, for that is the role they
were born to fill . Divorce was frowned on, and all a woman had to do
was appear to be happy. She s smiling, of course she s happy. (Hence
the title Mona Lisa Smile).
While the movie s main thread was women s liberation and getting women
to learn that they too can pursue careers, it did touch upon the fact
that women s liberation is about equality, and the right to make the
choice between home and work. And it s ok if she decides that a home
and family are more important than law school. I m glad they touched
upon that aspect of the whole issue, because too often it s overlooked
when one considers what women s lib was all about.
And what surprised me was that it was ok for a teacher to sleep with
his student. While pre-marital sex, and promiscuity was frowned upon,
it wasn t illegal for a teacher to sleep with his students. Though it
was illegal in the State of Massachusetts for the school nurse to
distribute condoms. Go figure.
Watching the movie, I realize we ve come a long way in terms of
women s emancipation. This really struck a note in the scene where
Betty asks Joan if she has asked her beau if it s ok for her to go to
Yale. I remember telling not asking my fianc that I was applying
to grad school and what my choices were. This movie explained why my
mother was so concerned about what the fianc had to say about my plns
for further education.
The movie takes place in 1953-1954, exactly 50 years ago. It s
heartening to see women come a long way in half a century. A lot of
the sentiments displayed in the movie are still evident in present
life in India, but I m hoping in another 50 years mothers won t have
to worry whether their daughter s choice to go to grad school won t
spoil her chances of a good match.
Technically, the movie could have been better. The transition from the
student s derisive behavior toward their teacher to one of respect and
admiration wasn t well defined. Joan s deciding to get married rather
than go to law school (which was a good point to make) seemed
incongruent with her character. And the last scene with Betty cycling
along side the teacher s car with tears running down her cheek was so
Bollywoodesque, it was almost laughable. Though not a great movie,
this one is definitely worth watching, if only to learn how far
womanhood has come in the last 50 years
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richard
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response 37 of 306:
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Jan 3 02:03 UTC 2004 |
That sounds like a female version of Dead Poets Society or Goodbye Mr.
Chips...*yawn*
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