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jaklumen
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response 13 of 24:
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Jan 7 06:13 UTC 2002 |
Disclaimer: 'moral standpoint' should have not had any interpretation
with the rest of my statement.. sorry for the lack of clarity.
My point was more at the observation that where prostitution is
legalized, there is sometimes drug legalization as well, and the
regulation seems to be privatized. Now-- the bordellos in Nevada seem
to be willing to regulate themselves, and my point was, many have been
established for quite some time. Could the same thing be reasonably
and consistently established elsewhere? Again, the key element seems
to be private regulation; I doubt we can be sure the government would
honestly do it in an efficient manner.
I don't doubt that strippers who prostitute are probably a minority,
but the fact that such a minority often dabble in the other
businesses, I think, contributes to such a misconception.
Note that these are just my simple observations.
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void
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response 14 of 24:
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Jan 9 03:50 UTC 2002 |
I'll have to look it up, but I'm pretty sure that Nevada bordellos
have to conform to some kind of health code.
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eskarina
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response 15 of 24:
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Apr 1 23:08 UTC 2002 |
I was under the impression that one of the things that made prostitution
attractive was if you were addicted to some really expensive drug, needed the
money, and couldn't think of any other way.
It makes sense that the legalization of drugs and prostitution then, would
go hand in hand.
Can't say I like the idea.
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morwen
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response 16 of 24:
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Apr 2 00:12 UTC 2002 |
resp:12 You can't guarantee that legalizing prostitution and then
enacting all these protective laws for them would actually stop pimps
from using drugs to try to force their prostitutes to keep working.
There would *still* be a lot of illegal activity.
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jmsaul
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response 17 of 24:
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Apr 2 00:45 UTC 2002 |
Getting your workers hooked on drugs to make them keep working is pretty rare
in legitimate industries, right? I think it would also be rare among
prostitutes if prostitution were legalized. After all, they'd be covered by
the same labor laws everyone else is, and would have legal recourse if they
were abused by management just like everyone else does. Now, they're
basically, well, screwed if they have a problem with their pimp because they
can't exactly go to the cops and hope for help.
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jaklumen
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response 18 of 24:
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Apr 2 01:41 UTC 2002 |
No, it's not rare, although maybe those industries are semi-legitimate.
A friend of mine worked in a few blue collar jobs.. orchard, I think,
where the bosses handed out drugs to keep the workers working. He
didn't touch the stuff.
btw, caffeine does count as a drug. People get full-tilt addicted to
java and espresso.
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jazz
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response 19 of 24:
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Apr 2 02:47 UTC 2002 |
Believe it or not, cane and beet sugar is too. As is tea. There's
an almost limitless list of things that you can become psychologically
addicted to, and the list of physically addictive substances is also quite
long.
We don't really have to speculate whether legalizing prostitution ends
institutionalized drug use and improves conditions for the workers;
everywhere it's been done, that's been the effect.
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jmsaul
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response 20 of 24:
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Apr 2 04:24 UTC 2002 |
What jazz said.
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orinoco
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response 21 of 24:
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Apr 2 16:26 UTC 2002 |
Yeah, but nobody's gonna get their workers hooked on beet sugar to keep them
from finding other jobs. Good point, but not in this context.
If prostitution were legalized, it wouldn't get less sleazy overnight. But
it would be easier to keep an eye on things like violence and diseases if the
workers didn't all have to stay out of the limelight anyway. Cultural
attitudes would change much more slowly. I don't think "sex worker" will be
a respected job title anytime soon, no matter how much the "industry" cleans
up its act.
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jazz
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response 22 of 24:
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Apr 3 00:33 UTC 2002 |
Well, that was sort of my point there. Many offices provide vending
machines filled with sugar-laden treats, but sugar addictions really aren't
comparable to heroin addictions, and I doubt anyone would even consider it
a factor in getting or keeping a job. It might be a nice perk, but that's
it.
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i
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response 23 of 24:
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Apr 4 03:38 UTC 2002 |
Sugary candy at vending-machine prices doesn't strike me as a way to
encourage consumption or retention. Far better to put in one of those
runs-on-syrup,-CO2,-and-filtered-water soda pop dispensers plus an ice
machine and tell 'em "FREE!". (Oh, and make sure there are NO both-
sugar-and-caffine-free options.)
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jazz
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response 24 of 24:
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Apr 4 17:51 UTC 2002 |
That works too, but it's not the same thing as hooking up an IV drip
of methancatinone.
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