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25 new of 384 responses total.
twenex
response 128 of 384: Mark Unseen   Jan 8 15:51 UTC 2004

Not surprising. :-(
kip
response 129 of 384: Mark Unseen   Jan 8 15:55 UTC 2004

This happens because when someone changes an item, it is considered as
something new.  Valerie ran a program that erased her responses to a number
of items and that counts as a change, thus all those items come up as having
new responses.
twenex
response 130 of 384: Mark Unseen   Jan 8 15:56 UTC 2004

Ah. thanks.
naftee
response 131 of 384: Mark Unseen   Jan 8 16:23 UTC 2004

High load averages!

ast pid: 17012;  load averages: 21.74, 20.82, 17.61                       
11:18:15
298 processes: 269 sleeping, 28 running, 1 stopped
CPU states:     % user,     % nice,     % system,     % idle,     % spin
Memory: 234M available, 232M in use, 2544K free, 7076K locked

  PID USERNAME PRI NICE  SIZE   RES STATE   TIME   WCPU    CPU COMMAND
17006 nobody    62    0  340K  548K run/0   0:01 28.95%  6.64% backtalk
17010 naftee    59    0 3364K 2856K run/1   0:01 31.14%  5.86% top
  256 root      78    0   12K    8K run/3 109:54 11.31%  5.86% update
17013 root       1    0   76K  352K sleep   0:02 35.08%  5.08% ftpd
keesan
response 132 of 384: Mark Unseen   Jan 8 17:16 UTC 2004

You can do 'fixseen' for all those conferences where Valerie deleted her
responses.
I will check my procmail filter to see if I did something stupid, but normally
I would expect procmail to just send anything it caught to the bulk folder,
not delete it.  I will ask for a copy of the bounced mails.
And try sending myself mail to grex from somewhere else.
mcnally
response 133 of 384: Mark Unseen   Jan 8 17:37 UTC 2004

re #115:  my mail is mostly addressed to "mcnally@cyberspace.org"

I sent a test message to your account yesterday.  Presumably you
haven't received it, but I got no bounce message.

I'd highly recommend turning off your procmail filter for a while
and testing whether you get mail without it..
eprom
response 134 of 384: Mark Unseen   Jan 8 19:40 UTC 2004

all incoming mail is ignoring my .procmailrc file and sending spam into my
/var/spool/e/p/eprom directory....please fix procmail
rcurl
response 135 of 384: Mark Unseen   Jan 8 19:59 UTC 2004

Why are ancient item headings and responses appearing in many other
conferences without new responses being entered? Here is a brief selection
from the consumer cf: 

> Item 90: Water Filters
> Entered by Valerie Mates (valerie) on Tue, Nov  4, 1997 (23:27):
> <expurgated & scribbled>
>
> 1 new of 22 responses total.

> #22 of 22: by Rane Curl (rcurl) on Sat, Feb 28, 1998 (13:36):
> They add chlorine *and* ammonia. Chloramine itself is a highly explosive
> liquid. The chloramine is formed in solution (no, its not explosive in
> solution).

> Respond or pass?

> Item 92: Advertising and public services
> Entered by C. Keesan (keesan) on Thu, Mar  5, 1998 (17:12):

> Respond or pass?

> Item 98: Looking for a plumber
> Entered by Valerie Mates (valerie) on Tue, Oct 27, 1998 (22:10):
> <expurgated & scribbled>

> Respond or pass?
willcome
response 136 of 384: Mark Unseen   Jan 8 20:00 UTC 2004

It's the bitch's fault.
rcurl
response 137 of 384: Mark Unseen   Jan 8 20:10 UTC 2004

It has caused me a considerable waste of time to run fixseen in a large
number of cfs that I watch.
cross
response 138 of 384: Mark Unseen   Jan 8 20:24 UTC 2004

This response has been erased.

aruba
response 139 of 384: Mark Unseen   Jan 8 20:28 UTC 2004

Rane: Valerie decided to leave Grex, and to delete all the responses she's
ever made on Grex.  So every item she ever responded to shows up as new.
rcurl
response 140 of 384: Mark Unseen   Jan 8 20:31 UTC 2004

Great... (that's a contradiction, so it is false but humerous, although
the extra dots are required to convey the sense in which it is said).

willcome
response 141 of 384: Mark Unseen   Jan 8 20:32 UTC 2004

(except that it's not really funny.)
happyboy
response 142 of 384: Mark Unseen   Jan 8 21:05 UTC 2004

re139




        *sigh*



davel
response 143 of 384: Mark Unseen   Jan 8 21:44 UTC 2004

Re 140: so it relates to your elbow, Rane?
naftee
response 144 of 384: Mark Unseen   Jan 8 22:32 UTC 2004

re 141 "humerous" is not funny either.
rcurl
response 145 of 384: Mark Unseen   Jan 8 23:44 UTC 2004

...some people sure don't have senses of humer...
mynxcat
response 146 of 384: Mark Unseen   Jan 9 02:21 UTC 2004

Backtalk doesn't allow a fw to delete posts from items, even if the post was
by the fw himself. (FWs can delete complete items though)
keesan
response 147 of 384: Mark Unseen   Jan 9 03:41 UTC 2004

How do I turn off procmail?  Today I got two spams address to @grex.org but
nothing from real people including McNally who sent me the text mail.
aruba
response 148 of 384: Mark Unseen   Jan 9 04:00 UTC 2004

One way is just to rename the .forward file in your home directory.  For
instance, type "!mv .forward .forward.old".
sholmes
response 149 of 384: Mark Unseen   Jan 9 04:00 UTC 2004

I think you can turn off procmail by removing that line in .forward which
refers to procmail or simple solution is to just rename .forward to a
different name for some time. like mv .forward bkp.forward.
sholmes
response 150 of 384: Mark Unseen   Jan 9 04:02 UTC 2004

148 slipped in.
keesan
response 151 of 384: Mark Unseen   Jan 9 04:41 UTC 2004

I put a # in front of the line in .forward to disable it - is that right?
I since today I got two more spame to @grex.org I just sent myself one more
test mail to keesan@grex.org.

The friend who got back bounced mail said it was bounced on Jan 3 with a 'host
name lookup failure for cyberspace.org'.  When was our domain name problem
fixed?  Perhaps the spammers have some way to get through that real people
don't know about?  

I have not had any bounced mail when I mailed to my grex account from another
account in the last two days.
bhoward
response 152 of 384: Mark Unseen   Jan 9 05:01 UTC 2004

I *think* sendmail respects # as a comment character in .forward, but
I have encountered other mailers in the past that didn't.  I think it
is better to move the .forward to a different file name if you aren't
using it right now.

I've observed no domain problems for the last few days now, not even in
asia (for some reason, dns on servers I frequent in Japan and Hong
Kong took a bit longer than the US based ones I use to notice the dns
corrections).
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