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krj
response 127 of 189: Mark Unseen   Jan 17 18:32 UTC 2000

Radio news report: The BMG conglomerate, one of the Big Five music 
companies, is seeking to make itself even bigger; it wants to buy 
either Sony Music, or EMI.
This would take us down to four major music companies.
orinoco
response 128 of 189: Mark Unseen   Jan 17 18:42 UTC 2000

<sigh>
goose
response 129 of 189: Mark Unseen   Jan 18 16:46 UTC 2000

good lord...will it ever stop?
krj
response 130 of 189: Mark Unseen   Jan 18 18:36 UTC 2000

"There can be only one!"   :)
 
I haven't been able to find a web confirmation on the BMG buying binge
story.
dbratman
response 131 of 189: Mark Unseen   Jan 19 23:16 UTC 2000

Silver lining: the fewer big corporations, the more niche markets open 
for small companies.
krj
response 132 of 189: Mark Unseen   Jan 23 05:02 UTC 2000

CNN:  "Time Warner Inc. of the United States is set to take a majority
stake in Britain's EMI Group Plc in a multibillion-dollar deal to 
create the world's largest record company, the Sunday Telegraph
newspaper said."
 
The CNN story mentions the previous rumors that BMG was looking to 
buy EMI.

Time Warner, as you are probably tired of hearing, is also merging 
with AOL.  
krj
response 133 of 189: Mark Unseen   Jan 23 20:24 UTC 2000

The merger story is everywhere today.  The Washington Post says the 
merged Warner EMI Music would be only the second largest record
company.
 
The Post says further: speculation is now circulating that BMG
will be in play.  BMG is the largest media company in Europe, but 
it would be the smallest of the remaining record companies, I think.
The Post says BMG doesn't have the stock values or assets to acquire
another record company to try to become too big to swallow.
krj
response 134 of 189: Mark Unseen   Jan 26 06:24 UTC 2000

A number of analysts argue that this is a merger of fading giants.
I remember when Warner/Elektra/Atlantic was the coolest of the major 
labels, renowned for being artist-friendly, but that was 
back in the 1970s and 1980s.  In the 1990s
the label has been ripped by corporate infighting and their market
share has sunk badly.  And as for EMI, well, their peak was with 
the Beatles.
mcnally
response 135 of 189: Mark Unseen   Jan 26 10:47 UTC 2000

  So who are the remaining competitors at that level?
krj
response 136 of 189: Mark Unseen   Jan 26 13:42 UTC 2000

Assuming this merger goes through, the four major labels will be:
   Universal Music Group (formerly MCA and Polygram, merged 1998, and
                          owned by Seagram's)
   Warner Music EMI   (owned by AOL Time Warner)
   Sony Music         (Columbia is their major label in the US for pop)
   BMG                (European conglomerate Bertelsmann)
krj
response 137 of 189: Mark Unseen   Feb 5 04:34 UTC 2000

... and Yahoo Reuters Entertainment news says BMG is looking for a deal.
 
The February 2000 issue of Stereophile magazine reports the demise of 
Mobile Fidelity, a premium-priced reissue label devoted to quality.
They championed LP quality in an era when major label pressings 
were crap; they claimed their gold CDs were somehow superior, a claim
I could never really buy into.  Their mastering work was generally
regarded as the best.  Mobile Fidelity shut down in November after
one of their main distributors went bankrupt, owing MF lots of money.
krj
response 138 of 189: Mark Unseen   Feb 9 06:29 UTC 2000

 From the New York Times, February 1:  Neil Strauss writes a piece about 
bluegrass musician Johnny Staats, who has just signed a major label
contract with a Time-Warner imprint, but who has chosen to keep 
his day job as a UPS truck driver.  In discussing the new unpredictability
of the music business and the number of artists being cut from their 
major-label deals, Strauss mentions:  "the difficulty of breaking
even on any release that sells less than half a million copies..."

What?  500,000 is now the breakeven point?  That's halfway to platinum
status...
lumen
response 139 of 189: Mark Unseen   Feb 9 17:34 UTC 2000

you sure?  There are so many people involved in the music business pie 
that it's difficult to recoup all production and marketing costs.

TLC sold 3,000,000 copies of _CrazySexyCool_ and still went bankrupt.

Just how well produced and marketed is this musician?  Costs can add up 
fast..
goose
response 140 of 189: Mark Unseen   Feb 9 21:48 UTC 2000

Just looking up the word 'recoupable' in the dictionary should scare most
people out of the music business.

I'm not surprised by that statement Ken, selling 50,000 units is an amazing
feat, but it won't make you *any* money if you're on a major...it will gross
about a half a million bucks for the label though...
scott
response 141 of 189: Mark Unseen   Feb 9 22:31 UTC 2000

...which is why you need to avoid being a "major label" artist.
krj
response 142 of 189: Mark Unseen   Feb 9 22:33 UTC 2000

I looked it up on www.riaa.com.  A Gold Record award is for sales of 500,000.
This used to be an exceptional, award-worthy number of sales, but according 
to Strauss it is now the typical breakeven point for the majors.
It sounds like record company costs have spun completely out of 
control for the major labels.
lumen
response 143 of 189: Mark Unseen   Feb 11 00:29 UTC 2000

That was exactly my point.  Gee, watching MTV and VH1 is good for 
something.
dbratman
response 144 of 189: Mark Unseen   Feb 18 22:00 UTC 2000

It's like credit cards.  First, a gold record (or card) was something 
special.  Then it became ordinary.  Now it's platinum that's becoming 
ordinary.  What will be next?

(And we had stars, then superstars, then megastars, and now we're 
getting gigastars.  Sheesh!)
tpryan
response 145 of 189: Mark Unseen   Feb 18 23:59 UTC 2000

        Does that make OJ Simpson a kilostar?
krj
response 146 of 189: Mark Unseen   Mar 27 22:18 UTC 2000

item: http://music.zdnet.com/news/2000_03_20_cdnow.html
 
The investors' journal Barrons has a death watch list of 51 
Internet businesses which are running out of money.  Included in 
that list is CDNow.com, which was the premier retailer of CDs on the 
net for quite a few years.  
 
The CDNow/Columbia House merger which we wrote about somewhere in this
conference fell apart, because it turned out that neither party to the
merger was making much profit.  CDNow has about six months of cash 
available to it right now.
 
My personal opinion is that Amazon.com is killing them with a much 
better web site.
diznave
response 147 of 189: Mark Unseen   Mar 29 15:57 UTC 2000

The real winners in all of this, of course, are UPS and FedEx

goose
response 148 of 189: Mark Unseen   Mar 29 19:24 UTC 2000

Not with a move to electronic distribution.
diznave
response 149 of 189: Mark Unseen   Mar 31 15:33 UTC 2000

well, an item ordered electronically still has to be delivered to your door,
right?

orinoco
response 150 of 189: Mark Unseen   Mar 31 17:21 UTC 2000

Not if the "items" are encoded and delivered online.
diznave
response 151 of 189: Mark Unseen   Apr 3 14:47 UTC 2000

Okay, true.....still, the number of every day non-computer related things you
can purchase online is large and getting larger and they have to get to you
somehow...
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