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gull
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response 126 of 230:
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Aug 13 21:51 UTC 2003 |
(If buses were such a losing proposition for GM, they wouldn't
manufacture so many of them.)
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tod
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response 127 of 230:
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Aug 13 21:55 UTC 2003 |
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i
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response 128 of 230:
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Aug 13 23:52 UTC 2003 |
If one looks at Detroit & Wayne County's long histories of extremely
capable, honest, efficient, and dedicated-to-the-long-term-public-good
governments, then one *might* be able to understand why mass transit
runs rather short of reasonable expectations in that part of Michigan...
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tod
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response 129 of 230:
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Aug 14 00:32 UTC 2003 |
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gull
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response 130 of 230:
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Aug 14 14:25 UTC 2003 |
Re #127: There are multiple reasons:
- Incompetant and corrupt government in Detroit and Wayne County.
- Detroit doesn't have the tax base to fund it, and the suburbs aren't
willing to chip in for something they see as mostly benefiting poor
people in Detroit. (Some people have tried to spin this as racism.)
- Detroit has had urban decay for so long that a lot of people are no
longer commuting from the suburbs inward; they're commuting crosswise,
from suburb to suburb. This makes it hard to get enough rider density
on any given route.
- Public attitude. Mass transit has been so bad for so long, people feel
it's a money pit and will never be any good.
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tod
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response 131 of 230:
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Aug 14 16:41 UTC 2003 |
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cmcgee
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response 132 of 230:
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Aug 14 16:49 UTC 2003 |
"they're commuting crosswise, from suburb to suburb"
This is not because of Detroit's urban decay. It is a phenomenon in almost
all large American cities at the end of the 20th century. It is one of the
most vexing transit planning problems, because the density of housing in these
suburbs makes transit unworkable.
Ann Arbor itself is barely dense enough for transit to be financially
feasible. Feasible does not mean self-supporting. About 1/3 of Ann Arbor's
transit cost is paid for by Federal subsidies.
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tod
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response 133 of 230:
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Aug 14 17:02 UTC 2003 |
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katie
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response 134 of 230:
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Aug 19 00:42 UTC 2003 |
(Wha' happen to the grexer spotting thread?)
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jaklumen
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response 135 of 230:
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Aug 19 01:18 UTC 2003 |
Drift, drift, drift...
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scott
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response 136 of 230:
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Aug 20 23:16 UTC 2003 |
Moments ago, I saw srw walking by the Our Town Deli at Main & Liberty (I'm
in here having dinner & internet).
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scott
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response 137 of 230:
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Aug 21 12:59 UTC 2003 |
Hey, almost forgot to annouce this.
I'm going to be visiting my sister in Berkeley, CA for Labor Day weekend, and
I'll have a couple days during the week when I could meet some local Grexers.
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cmcgee
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response 138 of 230:
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Aug 21 13:05 UTC 2003 |
Saw scott at Murfin and Plymouth on his recumbant, but he didn't hear me call
his name on Tuesday about noon.
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gregb
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response 139 of 230:
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Aug 21 13:27 UTC 2003 |
What's a recumbant?
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lynne
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response 140 of 230:
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Aug 21 14:53 UTC 2003 |
A funny looking bike, slightly misspelled. :)
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scott
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response 141 of 230:
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Aug 21 15:21 UTC 2003 |
http://www.visionrecumbents.com/
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gregb
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response 142 of 230:
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Aug 21 15:48 UTC 2003 |
Oh, I've seen those. Saw a guy riding one when I was at the Dream
Cruise. Looks comfortable.
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gull
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response 143 of 230:
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Aug 21 16:45 UTC 2003 |
I've seen them occasionally, too. Some day I'd like to try riding one.
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scott
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response 144 of 230:
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Aug 21 17:51 UTC 2003 |
Yes, they're very nice. Got one because of a bad shoulder.
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katie
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response 145 of 230:
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Aug 21 18:33 UTC 2003 |
Spotted dadroc yesteray at the post office.
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jaklumen
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response 146 of 230:
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Aug 22 00:25 UTC 2003 |
I saw a recumbant this morning on the highway ramp. I still have yet
to try one out.
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scg
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response 147 of 230:
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Aug 25 06:52 UTC 2003 |
re 137:
I'll have visiting relatives for part of that weekend, but should also
have a day or two free. Give me a call when you know what your schedule is
like.
Had dinner with munkey, kornnut, and anubolic tonight.
re 132:
It seems to me that this is a problem where transit needs to lead the
way, rather than figure out how to follow. In San Francisco and New York,
the downtown areas are a real pain to drive to, but they're still *the*
convenient location for any business trying to target more than a single
neighborhood. This is because they are the areas where public transit goes
to from everywhere else, and getting between any other two points likely
involves going through the downtowns. In contrast, in places like Ann Arbor
or Detroit, the downtowns are treated just as places where it's hard to park.
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mynxcat
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response 148 of 230:
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Aug 25 18:12 UTC 2003 |
Why wasn't munkey in the group picture?
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remmers
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response 149 of 230:
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Aug 25 21:01 UTC 2003 |
Wild guess: Because she took the picture?
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mynxcat
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response 150 of 230:
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Aug 26 00:41 UTC 2003 |
I know that, but why didn't they have someone else take the picture?? I want
momo in the picture!!
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