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bhelliom
response 125 of 170: Mark Unseen   Aug 23 21:20 UTC 2002

Wow.  An honest question, Twila.  What kind of environment is it in 
which you work?
jep
response 126 of 170: Mark Unseen   Aug 23 23:09 UTC 2002

My co-workers have been very understanding about my depression, and 
quick to offer help (mainly to listen) if I wanted to talk about the 
divorce.  It seems like everyone has been through a divorce.

I've had countless 1.5 hour "lunches", just driving around or going to 
therapy.  Lots of days when I just sat staring at my computer, or 
pounding angrily away at the keyboard; no one objected and they've 
pitched in and carried the load for me a lot.

I work at a great place.  I strongly recommend working at a great place 
when you're divorcing and depressed.
tod
response 127 of 170: Mark Unseen   Aug 23 23:33 UTC 2002

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drew
response 128 of 170: Mark Unseen   Aug 24 02:48 UTC 2002

Re #126:
    What place is this? And are they/might they be hiring soon?
jep
response 129 of 170: Mark Unseen   Aug 24 03:34 UTC 2002

I work at Sterling Commerce.  To answer your question about hiring 
soon: we're owned by SBC.  (It's part of the telecom industry, so I do 
not see hiring coming in the near future.)

There are rumors SBC wants to sell Sterling Commerce, which could have 
the effect of getting us away from the problems of the telecom 
industry, but would much more likely be preceded by downsizing.

SBC employees got an e-mail today about "voluntary unpaid time off".  
It doesn't apply to Sterling Commerce, but nonetheless, I didn't see it 
as a positive indication for the immediate future.
edina
response 130 of 170: Mark Unseen   Aug 24 16:13 UTC 2002

I wholeheartedly agree with John about being in a great work environment when
going through something stressful, whether it divorce or whatever.  Because
of the graciousness I got, I am a very loyal employee.
anderyn
response 131 of 170: Mark Unseen   Aug 24 18:09 UTC 2002

What kind of environment? It's an office for a non profit publishing
organization. About 75 employees here in Ann Arbor.
bhelliom
response 132 of 170: Mark Unseen   Aug 26 15:43 UTC 2002

I was just curious, as you mentioned the suicides.

I agree with Brooke and John. My boss is very supportive.  I decided to 
tell him as I was concerned about job performance, and wanted to assure 
him that this was not willful on my part.  I was glad to learn that 
none of this was noticed as having an affect on my work, especially 
since I was improving at my job the entire time.  
anderyn
response 133 of 170: Mark Unseen   Aug 26 20:35 UTC 2002

Actually, it's kind of surprising to me that we have had so many. Because it's
such a low pressure place, with a lot of support.
bhelliom
response 134 of 170: Mark Unseen   Aug 27 14:07 UTC 2002

Well, I'm sure it may have made the burden somewhat easier, or at least 
one can hope.  It's good that you *do* have a supportive environment in 
which to work. 
clees
response 135 of 170: Mark Unseen   Sep 3 21:01 UTC 2002

Yup.
One of my colleagues recently suffered from a breakdown. She is on sick 
leave now for the time being. As I understand it she is currently 
spooked by skeletons from the past. What kind of past she hasn't hasn't 
revealed yet, but I dread it has to do with over affectionate daddies.
Although I am no therapist I sympathise with her. At least I know what 
she has been through. What complicates the whole thing is that she for 
now refuses to seek professional help. She is scared what it will 
bringto surface. It tried to explain that letting things keep on 
festering doesn't help either. Certainly as she is affected by it now.
To make things worse she has had a burglar in her house.
tod
response 136 of 170: Mark Unseen   Sep 3 21:15 UTC 2002

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clees
response 137 of 170: Mark Unseen   Sep 5 09:12 UTC 2002

I got a hint in that direction (but not in so many words) from another 
colleague, who's in closer contact with her than me.
I won't pry.
tod
response 138 of 170: Mark Unseen   Sep 5 16:13 UTC 2002

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clees
response 139 of 170: Mark Unseen   Sep 5 22:02 UTC 2002

I did. Also because it helped me so much.
jep
response 140 of 170: Mark Unseen   Sep 5 23:33 UTC 2002

Today I had my first EMDR session.  EMDR is Eye Movement 
Desensitization and Reprocessing; it's a technique for alleviating bad 
feelings about yourself by "reprocessing" them, thinking them through a 
different way and then feeling better about them.

Though it's called "Eye Movement Desensitization and Reprocessing", my 
therapist does not use anything that requires one to move his eyes.  He 
had me put on speakers and hold onto a vibrating buzzer gizmo (with one 
part in each hand), then go through some of the details of my divorce.  
The divorce is what's got me depressed.  At intervals of a minute or 
so, he'd stop and ask me what I was thinking about, then we'd go on.  
It was pretty intensely emotional for me.  You'll have to forgive me if 
I don't go into details right now.  The idea was to shift some of the 
ideas around some in my brain, or something.  I'm not too familiar with 
the theory, but it's supposed to provide permanent relief from the 
stuff that's being reprocessed.

I'm going to continue doing this at times for a while.  Right now I 
don't have much of an opinion on whether it did any good.  I can say, 
it was a very difficult session in therapy.
tod
response 141 of 170: Mark Unseen   Sep 5 23:56 UTC 2002

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jep
response 142 of 170: Mark Unseen   Sep 6 01:41 UTC 2002

I appreciate the kind thought, Todd, but it wasn't huge.  It was just 
difficult.
tod
response 143 of 170: Mark Unseen   Sep 6 16:43 UTC 2002

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jep
response 144 of 170: Mark Unseen   Sep 6 18:31 UTC 2002

Well, I appreciate the kind thoughts.  Thank you!

I don't know if I just burned out during yesterday's session in 
therapy, or made some real progress because of the EMDR, but I feel 
enormously better today than I did yesterday.  I have been burning with 
anger for over a week now, but not today.  That's quite a relief.
bhelliom
response 145 of 170: Mark Unseen   Sep 9 19:54 UTC 2002

Well, about two weeks after the lapse of the Welbutrin due to errors not 
my own, I'm feeling better.  I was secretly hoping that there'd be no 
change in mood and that we could reevaluate it, since Wellbutrin is such 
a mild antidepressant and I also have Celexa.    It's an amazing thing, 
to realize how I had felt/could have felt like without it.  Okay, so 
meds aren't the cure-all, but for now, it's definitely proving 
beneficial.  I'm glad that I actually feel like coming up with things to 
do to get back in shape.  It means to me that I have recovered some 
motivation.  I can't wait to try out my new in-line skates.  
clees
response 146 of 170: Mark Unseen   Sep 10 06:13 UTC 2002

Take care, girl! (hugs)
bhelliom
response 147 of 170: Mark Unseen   Sep 11 16:52 UTC 2002

I may have to exchange the blades for a pair a half-size larger, but I 
did venture out and try them yesterday.
lynne
response 148 of 170: Mark Unseen   Sep 11 19:33 UTC 2002

I've noticed gently varying responses to missing doses of Zoloft.  Sometimes
I'm having a good day and can miss a day without enormous repercussions, but
far more usually I start getting extremely depressed.  Sometimes the 
depression has a relevant and believable cause, sometimes I catch myself
making mountains out of molehills to have something to be depressed about.
It's sort of a nasty cycle.  But there is a very marked effect to missing
doses.  I think next time I see the psychiatrist I'll ask about future plans.
Have other people who are still reading this item ever gone off Zoloft?  Were
there side effects?  What was the trigger that made you decide to stop 
taking it?
slynne
response 149 of 170: Mark Unseen   Sep 11 21:27 UTC 2002

I was on Zoloft for 6 months once. It really helped me. Interestingly, 
when I stopped taking it, I didnt get depressed again. I had no bad 
side effects from stopping it. In fact, it was nice to finally get rid 
of the weird side effects the drug had. 

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