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keesan
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response 125 of 269:
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May 8 21:36 UTC 2002 |
This friend obviously has not figured out how to use the features of AOL
(though he was able to dial) nor has his housemate who he says knows a lot
about his computer. He is not planning to take the computer travelling with
him (20" monitor, lots of power strips......) nor does he do email on it.
It did seem to mean something to him when I told him I could be onlin with
my ISP, and at a URL, within 60 seconds, when it is taking him 10 minutes.
It is not like he is paying extra for something better, this is much worse
service with difficulty connecting and then getting bumped.
I still have not found a way to get Netscape to work without me having to
enter the password when I dial and then it also asks for a Windows (!)
password (same one). Someone else set up Windows - what do I change? The
'save password' does not respond to mouse, Alt-combination, or tab/Enter.
I would like to have Netscape under control before we go put it on a friend's
pentium Friday (his neighbor the computer whiz was over twice and got as far
as figuring out it is a pentium of some sort). It may be beyond his abilities
to enter the password as he never seems to know what it is. I looked in
Control Panel under password, and under Internet, and looked at Dialup
Networking and Modem.
MCRS, I think it was, said they are partnering with other small ISPs to cover
most of Michigan. I may talk Bob into signing up with them at $12/month
unlimited service, annual prepay. Not that he needs the 100 webspace but
Katie might like to put pictures on it, as Bob will not let anyone put
anything on his 6G hard drive in case it fills up. Then he can set up the
386 at his summer place in northern Michigan and local dial, if I teach Katie
how to run the software (so who needs security, Netscape 2 will do fine).
Someone else I talked to said he bought a $6000 computer for his 2 year old.
What are kids using computers for?
Dumb question - how to delete files from MSWORD? THis is not anywhere in the
online help, or in the menus, that I could find. I deleted them with DOS but
the computer thinks they are still there.
I discovered that Win95 refuses to remove AOL software in Add/Remove programs
(it says there is some problem with that) and it also refuses to uncheck IE
as the preferred browser for some use or other. Lots of these little links
do not work. What does AOL pay MS to include AOL software with Win95?
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scott
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response 126 of 269:
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May 8 23:03 UTC 2002 |
I think you can delete Word files from the "Open file" browse window, although
I've forgotten exactly how. Highlight and then hit delete, maybe. Or use
the Windows Explorer to delete them.
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jazz
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response 127 of 269:
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May 8 23:08 UTC 2002 |
Yes, the do pay MS. It's a trade in kind, though, they use IE as the
default browser for AOL.
If you deleted a file in DOS - regardless of the format - it should
be gone. It can be recovered, but it's not something that could happen by
accident, unless you have third-party file protection utilities running.
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scott
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response 128 of 269:
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May 8 23:12 UTC 2002 |
Maybe Sindi is still seeing the files in the "recent documents" list.
They'll gradually disappear as other files fill the limited list space.
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keesan
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response 129 of 269:
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May 9 00:56 UTC 2002 |
So it is something like a browser cache, you cannot remove things but if you
put more in the first ones go away? Odd way to set things up - you delete
something and it is still listed as being there.
No ideas on how to stop Win95/Netscape from asking for a password, twice?
It did not do this when we set up a fresh copy of Win95. Where might someone
have set it to require a password? We will be dealing with someone else's
used copy again on Friday afternoon.
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gull
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response 130 of 269:
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May 9 14:23 UTC 2002 |
Re #125, and being asked for the password twice: Try unchecking the "Log on
to network" box in the properties for the dialin connection you're using.
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keesan
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response 131 of 269:
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May 9 18:30 UTC 2002 |
I will look at that, but I think I had to check it to make it automatic to
dial after using Netscape. Maybe not, I did something but don't know what.
Today I phoned the friend with the pentium. His wife answered. I asked her
to look in the back of the computer to see if there was some place to plug
in a phone. She is 83 or 84 and said it was hard to get at the back, but in
front there was something. I asked if it was the size of a phone plug. She
said she would have to unplug the phone to check that and could not while
talking to me. Eventually we got her to look at the back. Nothing there.
Any shiny metal strips? Yes, one, and a big cord and a little cord coming
out and in front was just the screen. I caught on that we were discussing
the monitor, after about ten more pertinent questions. I tried asking if
there was a box under the monitor or near it but go nowhere. We will show
up tomorrow with our 28.8K modem in case there is none in the computer.
And two hard drives that cooperate in our other ATT, one of which is set to
Slave and has Netscape 4.08 for Win95 on it. And lots of floppy disks and
time. (Two people coming for used bikes in the evening will phone first).
With luck he may have been given a Win95 manual to go with the computer.
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gull
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response 132 of 269:
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May 9 19:56 UTC 2002 |
Re #131: It's different than any automatic settings. It's in the same
section where you choose what protocols to use. (If you uncheck all of
them except TCP/IP the dialin connection window disappears a lot
quicker, incidentally. Very few ISPs are going to let you run NetBEUI
or IPX over your dialin connection anyway.)
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keesan
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response 133 of 269:
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May 10 01:36 UTC 2002 |
What do the other things mean, like NetBEUI (all of which come prechecked)?
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keesan
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response 134 of 269:
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May 10 01:55 UTC 2002 |
I finally figured out how to edit the DUN entry for my ISP and unchecked
things as instructed, and it no longer asks for my Windows password,
and it does connect faster, but I was still unable to 'save password'. ?
Why, when using Netscape and grex Vanilla interface, does the list of
Agora items keep moving left and right when I tab down? Is this a bug?
(The lines look slightly too long for my screen resolution - are they
not supposed to wrap?).
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keesan
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response 135 of 269:
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May 10 03:06 UTC 2002 |
Does anyone have a cpu of 166 or 200MHz for sale cheap? We expect to be
upgrading our friend's pentium from 60 or 75MHz and could use our 120MHz to
do so (if the board will take something faster than 100, some don't) and
replace ours. Or use it to upgrade Jim's housemate from 90 (it was 75 when
we moved in).
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gull
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response 136 of 269:
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May 10 13:45 UTC 2002 |
Re #133: NetBEUI is a protocol Windows uses for local LAN connections, for
things like accessing shared drives and printers. It's useless on dialin
connections unless you're dialing directly into a Windows LAN, because it
can't be routed over the Internet. IPX was used for similar purposes by
Novell Netware and some older networked games. "Log on to network", as far
as I can tell, attempts to authenticate to a Windows machine on the remote
end. This would be useful if you were dialing into an office network of
Windows NT machines that used domain authentication.
The reason your dialin connection gets completed faster when you disable
those things is that they all have to be negotiated with the machine on the
remote end of the connection. If your machine is asking for less, the
negotiation process doesn't take as long.
Re #134: I think Windows 95 won't let you save the password if the machine is
set up for multiple users, but I don't remember how to fix that. You might
try doing a web search.
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jp2
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response 137 of 269:
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May 10 14:07 UTC 2002 |
This response has been erased.
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jazz
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response 138 of 269:
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May 10 17:39 UTC 2002 |
You can encapsulate a single bit in IP - though I'm not sure why you'd
want to - theoretically, and thereby route the payload of the one bit. That
doesn't mean the bit is a routable protocol.
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keesan
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response 139 of 269:
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May 10 17:40 UTC 2002 |
I will try to figure this out from our Win95 manual, thanks.
We are now at the friend's house. His Pentium is 233M with 96M RAM and fast
video and 4G hard drive with one partition. It has been defragmenting for
about 2 hours now and is 92% done and seems rather full. I will try emptying
the recycle bin to make space for Netscape. Winmodem, so we cannot use
Procomm for DOS, which he can continue to use on the old computer until I show
him how to use webmail at USOL. How does one construct a forward file while
keeping mail at grex? Do you separate the two addresses by a space? I tried
that and the mail has not yet arrived at USOL, but maybe it is slow.
Does one normally have an address book at a webmail site? I did not find one
at usol, and he has no idea how to use his printer, so we hand copied his 15
addresses from the pine address book and he will do a reply most of the time
anyway. He keeps forgetting not to use a mouse in pine so webmail via
Netscape may be simpler. Plus all these friends at aol keep sending him html
mail which is confusing, and sometimes there are images which he never did
learn to download and view from grex.
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keesan
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response 140 of 269:
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May 10 17:43 UTC 2002 |
How does one set up Win98 so as not to ask for a password when you log in?
You can hit Cancel (or ESC) to bypass it every time. He does not know his
son's password. Jim cleaned four gas stove burners so they work with a pilot
light now, while waiting for defrag. Perhaps nobody defragmented for four
years. 96% complete. What sorts of files/directories are safe to simply
delete with DOS from Win98? On our Win95 computer we deleted a directory of
a demo game, and the inbox, and all the system sounds and backgrounds (.bmp
and .wav) and it did not complain. 99% done.
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jazz
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response 141 of 269:
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May 10 17:44 UTC 2002 |
Some do, and some don't. I'd recommend that you shop around for
webmail sites if you're paying for them. Most should offer, at the very
least, an explanation and screen shots.
For a GREX-local forward file, just put your username at the end of
the .forward. Don't forget to make sure it's at the end, or you'll create
a very nasty mailing loop.
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scott
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response 142 of 269:
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May 10 23:21 UTC 2002 |
(For defragging a Win95 drive, boot into Safe Mode first. Seems faster and
doesn't end up complaing about other processes writing to the disk)
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jp2
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response 143 of 269:
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May 10 23:25 UTC 2002 |
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jazz
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response 144 of 269:
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May 11 00:09 UTC 2002 |
It's considered reperative therapy.
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keesan
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response 145 of 269:
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May 11 02:35 UTC 2002 |
Too late for Safe Mode this time, but thanks.
There was no .forward file. If I put my username at the end of the file,
I would get my friend's mail and he would not. I set it up with both his grex
address and his usol address, I think (with a space in between). Turns out
we never got this far and he will continue using the old computer for grex.
He told us the old computer had a color problem. We had pointed out last time
that his monitor was lacking in red. This time we discovered a new problem,
a really peculiar Win31 color scheme. Turns out his computer-expert neighbor
had not only managed to plug in the new computer, but fixed the color problem
on the old one. The problem was dark red on black at one website, hard to
read. So I installed the Win31 driver for the onboard video which does 64K
colors instead of using the 256color card, removed the card, moved the monitor
plug over, and now the site is bright red on dark. Fixed. Then I fixed the
color scheme back to something readable. On the new computer we discovered
that you can get black on white without any background or wallpaper. Fixed.
Jim put the pair of cooperating hard drives into the old computer and we
transferred Netscape. I set it up. I then set up Dial Up Networking. I
unchecked BEUI and other odd looking things. I dialed. It took a few minutes
to get to the point of verifying name and password. It required that you
enter the password every time. Also it asked for network password when we
logged on despite following instructions how to change this under Control
Panel/password. Every time it dialed and connected we were told the program
had performed an illegal operation and would be shut down, but we were able
to then load Netscape. Our friend said he is used to messages of this sort
while using Windows and it happens all the time so don't worry and just keep
going. Netscape all performed an occasional illegal action and shut itself
down but we could dial in again. This seems even buggier than Win95.
How do we fix it not to ask for two passwords, and also to dial automatically
when we load Netscape rather than telling us it cannot find the DNS number?
How do we set it so Netscape loads as a full-screen window and without the
2nd and 4th row of icons (toolbar?) at the top? In Win95, same Netscape, once
you set this it stays that way.
The webmail I had in mind was that supplied free by usol. The address book
is not important as he copied out all 15 addresses onto paper, and generally
only replies to other people.
I discovered, after setting up his new bookmarks file to match the old one,
that he does not want to use it because it is simpler to just type in the
first three letters of a URL and have Netscape finish for you. He does not
use any features at all that I know of, other than typing in the URL.
Apart from taking ten times as long to get started, the new computer with the
56K modem, at 233MHz, loads websites noticeably faster than the old one.
Next lesson will be how to use usol webmail. including viewing attached
photos, and replying and deleting. Followed by Realaudio 8, which came with
the computer.
There is one 4G hard drive with one partition. The friend will ask his son,
who gave him the computer, how to set it up properly. Why does Win98 set it
up to ask for network password as a default? I doubt most people can get rid
of this as nobody we have seen using it has managed to do so yet.
The final lesson was how to use the mouse to double click (with a short
sidetrack in which we slightly slowed down the double click rate). Unlike
Win95, you cannot tab to an icon, hit the space bar, then the enter key, you
HAVE to double click. It rarely worked. I discovered you could instead do
a single right click then hit O for Open, more predictably. The mouse was
shaped like a golf club head.
I deleted anything with AOL in it and discovered that you can delete documents
using Start/Documents/Right Click. Will try this on my computer next.
It brings up a menu with Delete in it. Managed to delete a bunch of shortcuts
too (briefcase). Did not manage to move any icons, they kept returning.
Jim got four out of five burners working and was given a Dionne Warwick 1967
album as a thank you.
It is such a pleasure to be back to text mode.
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keesan
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response 146 of 269:
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May 12 13:04 UTC 2002 |
Date: Sat, 11 May 2002 15:37:33 -0400 (EDT)
To: Sindi Keesan <keesan@grex.cyberspace.org>
Sindi is has been ages since I tried using the web so of course I have a
question
I typed la and the G typed the address in www.verizonwireless.com/win.
received the message refresh (o sec): 1. http//www submit 2. win.com/vzw.
So tell me what is that supposed to mean to me? There is no question I
didn't do something correct but what?
Can anyone answer the above question? La is short for lynx altavista and
G is presumably a lynx command allowing one to enter the URL.
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keesan
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response 147 of 269:
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May 12 13:21 UTC 2002 |
To: Sindi Keesan <keesan@grex.cyberspace.org>
Subject: Re: your mail
No I was not looking for a wireless phone service. when I typed g I was
give the url space for the address I had for verizon wireless.
(www.verizonwireless.com/win) Choices? You are prehaps referring to 1
and 2. If that is the case is that what they are? Guess I expected
something like a home page or something that would first tell who they
were and then their directory.
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keesan
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response 148 of 269:
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May 12 21:49 UTC 2002 |
To preserve the settings in Netscape we are supposed to exit Netscape properly
before shutting down Windows. How do we get Netscape to load automatically
when starting Windows?
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keesan
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response 149 of 269:
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May 14 13:12 UTC 2002 |
We are supposed to put it into the startup folder (I deleted that).
We fixed a VCR for a neighbor who said she would bring us a hard drive that
nobody was using at work (U of M). I asked how large it was. She would
check. Yesterday she left us the hard drive for the VCR and I was surprised
to find it is about 20" x 20" x 6" and labelled Gateway 2000 PD466. It also
came with complete instructions and may have an overdrive chip along with 16
bit sound card and 8x CD-ROM drive and even a 540M hard drive, which we
wanted.
What is this part of the computer ordinarily called - I have heard 'computer',
'box' and 'cpu' (the latter being ambiguous).
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