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albaugh
response 122 of 191: Mark Unseen   Sep 19 16:59 UTC 2003

Canadian citizen legal action against the US goverment for *this*?  BS!
You don't get to dicate another country's rules for entry.  Don't like it,
stay away.  Wounded dignity?  Get over it, and just fill out separate forms,
if you're really more interested in entering the US than playing the martyr.
gull
response 123 of 191: Mark Unseen   Sep 19 17:07 UTC 2003

Granted, though I bet if it were another country not recognizing U.S.
marriages the U.S. government would make a big stink about it.
klg
response 124 of 191: Mark Unseen   Sep 19 18:03 UTC 2003

The same "big stink" that our noble Department of State has made over 
legal issues such as custody disputes over children who have been 
abducted by their fathers to Saudi Arabia?
rcurl
response 125 of 191: Mark Unseen   Sep 19 18:45 UTC 2003

They should  have tried to enter via Vermont. Then a State's rights issue
would also be involved, since same-sex "marriages" are recognized there.
(I recognize that immigration is a federal matter, but having a state
involved might lead sooner to a better resolution.)

It has been the international norm to recognize the legal forms of other
nations for many things - including different-sex marriages, driving
licenses - lots more. There is no good reason not to recognize Canada's
laws in this respect. 

tod
response 126 of 191: Mark Unseen   Sep 19 19:05 UTC 2003

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gull
response 127 of 191: Mark Unseen   Sep 19 19:17 UTC 2003

I think it was Customs because they were only coming to the U.S. for a few
days, not trying to relocate here.
happyboy
response 128 of 191: Mark Unseen   Sep 19 19:18 UTC 2003

had bruse been accounted for?
tod
response 129 of 191: Mark Unseen   Sep 19 19:29 UTC 2003

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happyboy
response 130 of 191: Mark Unseen   Sep 19 19:47 UTC 2003

/crosses arms in haughty and righteous fundamentalist christian
 indignation


THEY DERSERVED IT!

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mynxcat
response 131 of 191: Mark Unseen   Sep 19 19:52 UTC 2003

LOL. Even if they were coming in for a few days, I'd still think they had to
go through INS? Or is it different with Canadian citizens? They don't go
through an INS checkpoint at all at the border, where their passports are
checked?
tod
response 132 of 191: Mark Unseen   Sep 19 20:08 UTC 2003

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mynxcat
response 133 of 191: Mark Unseen   Sep 19 20:16 UTC 2003

bru works in an airport now?
rcurl
response 134 of 191: Mark Unseen   Sep 19 21:57 UTC 2003

If they were just coming as tourists, how did their relationship even
come up? Each person has their own personal identification, tickets,
etc. When my wife and I travel nobody raises any questions about our
relationship.
tod
response 135 of 191: Mark Unseen   Sep 19 22:00 UTC 2003

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rcurl
response 136 of 191: Mark Unseen   Sep 19 22:30 UTC 2003

They should have written "none" - unless they did seek to test the system.
In which case - more power to them. The system should be changed. 
gull
response 137 of 191: Mark Unseen   Sep 19 22:37 UTC 2003

They're activists.  Of course they were trying to test the system.
mynxcat
response 138 of 191: Mark Unseen   Sep 19 23:06 UTC 2003

Even if they did say they were married, and it turned out that the customs
officer didn't agree with the relationship, why would they be denied entry?
(Were they denied entry in the first palce?)
other
response 139 of 191: Mark Unseen   Sep 20 00:08 UTC 2003

The issue here is not gay marriage, it is compliance with bureaucratic 
regulation.  They were denied entry by a bureaucrat who was defending the 
petty fiefdom he rules against those who would force him to alter his 
routine.
gull
response 140 of 191: Mark Unseen   Sep 20 02:03 UTC 2003

Re #138: They were denied entry because they refused to fill out forms 
listing them as single instead of married.  The customs official was 
unwilling to accept a form stating they were a married couple.
gull
response 141 of 191: Mark Unseen   Sep 20 02:04 UTC 2003

(Hmm...come to think of it, if they *had* declared themselves as single, 
wouldn't they be guilty of lying on a Customs form?)
mynxcat
response 142 of 191: Mark Unseen   Sep 20 02:37 UTC 2003

Exactly. I'd think if your country of citizenship saw you as married, you're
married.
tod
response 143 of 191: Mark Unseen   Sep 20 03:47 UTC 2003

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mynxcat
response 144 of 191: Mark Unseen   Sep 20 04:58 UTC 2003

Don't know of any country that condones polygamy except the Muslim ones. And
if theri country is ok with it, I don't see why any other government should
object. Now if they wanted to become citizens of the US, I can see why a stink
would be raised.
rcurl
response 145 of 191: Mark Unseen   Sep 20 05:17 UTC 2003

Why?
mynxcat
response 146 of 191: Mark Unseen   Sep 20 06:27 UTC 2003

Gay marriages aren't condoned by the federal govt. If you're a citizen, you
need to abide by the rules. (If you become resident of a state that allows
gay marriages, I guess it would be ok)
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