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tod
response 121 of 218: Mark Unseen   Feb 18 01:02 UTC 2006

The White House was very clear when it states ALL MAJOR combat operations were
over in Iraq.  It was not about the Lincoln's job there but about the War on
tERROR.
cyklone
response 122 of 218: Mark Unseen   Feb 18 04:16 UTC 2006

Re #120: I hope that was an attempt at humor.
nharmon
response 123 of 218: Mark Unseen   Feb 18 15:00 UTC 2006

It was not humor. But this is:  http://dickhunt.ytmnd.com/
cyklone
response 124 of 218: Mark Unseen   Feb 18 21:41 UTC 2006

I daresay you were in an extreme minority with your interpretation of "Mission
Accomplished" then. It certainly doesn't jibe with what Curious George said
in his speech, and the hard-core Bush voter I watched it with didn't see it
your way either.
marcvh
response 125 of 218: Mark Unseen   Feb 18 22:17 UTC 2006

It jibes perfectly with the revisionist spin that was put out as a talking
point once it became abundantly clear that the mission wasn't accomplished.
nharmon
response 126 of 218: Mark Unseen   Feb 18 22:44 UTC 2006

Well, I understand that my initial interpretation was incorrect.
tod
response 127 of 218: Mark Unseen   Feb 18 23:01 UTC 2006

Let's talk about Nigeria(Lagos) and Venezuela cutting Shell's nuts off.
Is it because of oil depletion or is Team Evil Axis recruiting for the big
ass kicking of the USA economy?
rcurl
response 128 of 218: Mark Unseen   Feb 18 23:13 UTC 2006

Shell is a Dutch company. How does that figure in?
tod
response 129 of 218: Mark Unseen   Feb 18 23:26 UTC 2006

It figures in that 1.5 million barrels of Venezuelan oil a day go directly
to the USA.  They're the world's 5th largest oil exporter.  It figures in a
BIG way.  Katrina will look like a mosquito bite compared to how bad it would
affect our economy.
bru
response 130 of 218: Mark Unseen   Feb 19 02:45 UTC 2006

My original interpretation was that the IraQI MILITARY was now defeated.
tod
response 131 of 218: Mark Unseen   Feb 19 03:58 UTC 2006

My interpretation was that it was typical political hotdogging and a waste
of taxpayer money.
cross
response 132 of 218: Mark Unseen   Feb 19 18:56 UTC 2006

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happyboy
response 133 of 218: Mark Unseen   Feb 19 22:57 UTC 2006

we have made iraq safe for theocracy.
nharmon
response 134 of 218: Mark Unseen   Feb 20 00:40 UTC 2006

The original mission was to rid Iraq of WMDs. Once they got in there and
realized there weren't any.... MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!
tod
response 135 of 218: Mark Unseen   Feb 20 02:25 UTC 2006

re #134
No doubt
bru
response 136 of 218: Mark Unseen   Feb 20 13:02 UTC 2006

Syria has the WMD now.  They were shipped there via stripped out civilian
airliners at the behest of SAddam.  There is documentation to that effect.
sholmes
response 137 of 218: Mark Unseen   Feb 20 13:48 UTC 2006

Let's bomb the shit out of Syria !
edina
response 138 of 218: Mark Unseen   Feb 20 15:44 UTC 2006

I caught the round table of "Meet the Press" yesterday.  Mary Matalin, David
Gregory, Maureen Dowd and Paul Gigeut (editor for the WSJ).  I personally feel
much of the Dick Cheney fiasco has been overblown.  That being said, something
Matalin disclosed truly bothered me.  She said that the group of hunters had
basically gotten together to exchange facts so that one statement could come
out of it.  The fact that this came from Matalin's own lips was somewhat
incredulous to me.  
nharmon
response 139 of 218: Mark Unseen   Feb 20 16:21 UTC 2006

I think the whole deal about the whitehouse not notifying the entire
world of what was a non-government activity is overblown. However, I do
not feel the same about the firearm mishandling by Cheney. I think he
got a pass this time because of his position. 
edina
response 140 of 218: Mark Unseen   Feb 20 16:35 UTC 2006

I have no issue with them not immediately informing the press - I do have an
issue with them "getting the story straight".

I think that this has served two purposes:  to show how the White House really
doesn't want people to know what it's doing and to detract from things that
are of true importance.
cross
response 141 of 218: Mark Unseen   Feb 20 16:40 UTC 2006

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happyboy
response 142 of 218: Mark Unseen   Feb 20 18:07 UTC 2006

re136: sources other than neocon, broose?
tod
response 143 of 218: Mark Unseen   Feb 20 18:50 UTC 2006

I thought the WMD were buried under a well marked palm tree...
BWAHAHAHAH!
Sheesh...
mcnally
response 144 of 218: Mark Unseen   Feb 20 18:52 UTC 2006

 re #136:  If there really was even semi-credible evidence that the weapons
 were moved to Syria what possible motivation would the Bush administration
 have for withholding it?

 So far the only argument I've seen supporting the contention that Iraq's
 weapons of mass destruction were moved to Syria relies on two easily
 demolished assumptions:

   First assumption:  "Well, we know that the weapons exist and we didn't
   find them in Iraq, therefore they *must* be in Syria.."  If you can't
   see the problem with this assumption you're not trying very hard.

   Second assumption:  "All those Arab countries are alike and they're
   chiefly concerned with doing whatever it takes to get the USA."
   Imagine for a second that you were a paranoid dictator in control
   of Iraq.  During your reign you've started and ultimately lost badly
   two wars with neighboring countries (Iraq, Kuwait.)  Why on earth
   would you give your weapons of mass destruction to a neighboring
   country, poorer than your own, run by another dictator, and with
   clearly manifest territorial ambitions in the region (say, who's
   that occupying Lebanon?)?
rcurl
response 145 of 218: Mark Unseen   Feb 20 18:55 UTC 2006

Quite right. The same argument applies to the very small probability that Iraq
under Sadaam would have given any significant weapons to Al Qaeda. Absolute
dictators just don't do that sort of thing - or they jeopardize remaining
absolute.
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