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scott
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response 12 of 91:
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Oct 3 13:10 UTC 1999 |
I don't have anything against meat-eaters, as long as they don't try to force
vegetarians to eat meat.
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danr
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response 13 of 91:
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Oct 3 14:42 UTC 1999 |
I suspect that 'good nutrition' is a hard thing to pin down because we all need
something different. I've been sort of half-heartedly trying to find some good
books on the subject lately, but when I went to the library, all they had were
books from the 80s. I'd love to find a nutritionist that could maybe do some
tests and ask me questions about my diet and then give me suggestions on how to
improve it.
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beeswing
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response 14 of 91:
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Oct 3 15:41 UTC 1999 |
I love bacon. Love it. Will go out to get some today in fact. Which
reminds me...
Travolta: Want some bacon?
Jackson: No man, I don't eat pork.
T: Are you Jewish?
J: No I just don't dig on swine, that's all. Pigs are filthy animals. I
don't eat filthy animals.
T: But bacon tastes good. Pork chops taste good.
J: Hey a sewer rat may taste like pumpkin pie, but I wouldn't know
'cause I won't eat the filthy motherf***ers...
Sorry. Anytime anyone discusses bacon this is what I think of.
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gypsi
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response 15 of 91:
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Oct 3 15:44 UTC 1999 |
It's okay. I had forgotten that line was from Pulp Fiction. I told someone,
"I don't dig on swine" once, but couldn't figure out where I had gotten that
from. Heh...
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tod
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response 16 of 91:
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Oct 3 15:57 UTC 1999 |
Linda Blair is a vegetarian.
http://members.aol.com/ultraindy/JDouglas/index.htm
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omni
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response 17 of 91:
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Oct 3 16:24 UTC 1999 |
I have the soundtrack, and that little exchange is on it as is the Royale
with Cheese thing.
Bacon also has nitrites and other good carcinogens that I can live without.
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keesan
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response 18 of 91:
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Oct 3 18:03 UTC 1999 |
Can someone tell me what nutrients are found in cows and that are not found
in the milk from cows, other than probably more iron? Vegetables (green leafy
ones in particular) are full of iron, which is where cows get it from.
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otter
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response 19 of 91:
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Oct 3 18:22 UTC 1999 |
Omni, your mac 'n' cheese is OK, as long as the cheese is kosher. I'll try
to remember to e-mail you some good sources of info about identifying kosher
foods and preparing them properly.
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gull
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response 20 of 91:
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Oct 3 18:57 UTC 1999 |
I find it interesting that people will point to the occasional vegetarian
who has health problems as an example of why we should all eat meat, but
they take the heart disease and other problems that go with meat eating for
granted...
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happyboy
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response 21 of 91:
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Oct 3 20:14 UTC 1999 |
body-nazi.
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beeswing
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response 22 of 91:
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Oct 3 20:57 UTC 1999 |
You can get nitrate-free bacon at health food stores, though it costs a
bit more. I have a bacon-wave cooker, so you can nuke it and the fat
drips away instead of cooking it in fat.
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klg
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response 23 of 91:
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Oct 3 21:08 UTC 1999 |
re: "Omni, your mac 'n' cheese is OK, as long as the cheese is kosher."
And what about the status of the pasta, milk, butter, as well as
the pot & utensiles?
Also, does omni know that the price of kosher meats & poultry
is generally 2 - 4 x the prices at the standard meat counter?
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happyboy
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response 24 of 91:
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Oct 3 21:30 UTC 1999 |
bob evan's spicy breakfast patty pork sausage...
mmmmmmm
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janc
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response 25 of 91:
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Oct 3 22:32 UTC 1999 |
For many years my digestion has been lousy in just about every way a
digestive system can be lousy. When Valerie and I moved in together, I
became semi-vegetarian. We both eat vegetarian at home, but when we eat
at a restaurant, I eat meat about half the time. I've also started
eating substantially less junk food, and we mostly buy organic foods.
Ever since then I've been feeling ... pretty much exactly the same. Oh
well. You'd think all these huge changes in my diet would have some
effect one way or the other, but there isn't any that I can discern.
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beeswing
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response 26 of 91:
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Oct 3 23:45 UTC 1999 |
I'm the same way. I love popcorn, and used to eat it by the truckload,
but my body's decided it no longer wants to digest it. Along with a
zillion other foods. I can't drink Snapples with impunity like I once
did, the sugar rush results in a fierce crash. I haven't found organic
foods to make that huge a difference in how I feel, but I know I feel
badly when I eat junk foods for a few days in a row. Maybe it's a mental
thing, a placebo effect, knowing you're not eating something processed
makes you feel better.
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gypsi
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response 27 of 91:
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Oct 4 05:44 UTC 1999 |
Um, otter cooks kosher food, and she said "pretty sure".
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rcurl
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response 28 of 91:
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Oct 4 06:16 UTC 1999 |
Re #25: in what way has your digestion "been lousy". I only ask because
a few years ago my digestion turned nasty and I eventually worked out
I had become lactose intolerant. Things cleared up after I removed
lactose from my diet (or remembered to take lactase pills along).
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omni
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response 29 of 91:
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Oct 4 07:02 UTC 1999 |
Ok let me clarify a few things about my going kosher.
1. I'm not going to do this for quite a while.
2. I'm not going to be anal about it. I know about the soap, dishes, sinks,
and all the other things. I do have 2 sets of dishes, though.
I'm probably going to do the following:
eliminate pork in all forms
eliminate shellfish in all forms
eat foods only marked with the appropriate kosher symbols.
This is about as far as I'm willing to go. If I were Jewish, you can bet that
I would be very anal about staying kosher, and that was with the dishes,
soaps, sinks, and candles. But since I'm not, I don't need to be so type A
about it.
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omni
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response 30 of 91:
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Oct 4 07:03 UTC 1999 |
And as far as frest meat goes, I'm not going to worry about it, since I
don't have ready access to a kosher butcher.
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rcurl
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response 31 of 91:
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Oct 4 07:03 UTC 1999 |
It seems pretty obvious you can eat a kosher *diet* (re nutrition) without
any of the ceremonial aspects.
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katie
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response 32 of 91:
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Oct 4 11:19 UTC 1999 |
(But why?)
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flem
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response 33 of 91:
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Oct 4 20:59 UTC 1999 |
People on diet food commercials sometimes talk about sweet cravings,
salt cravings, crunch cravings. Who gets those? I can't recall ever
having such a craving. What I do get are fat cravings. :)
I am not a vegetarian. Most of the reasons for becoming one don't apply
to me, in one way or another. I like the taste and texture of meat. I
am not concerned enough about my health to stop eating meat entirely on
those grounds, although I do try to limit the ratio of meat to other in
my diet. Industrial farming practices do not bother me ethically.
Eating something that was once alive doesn't bother me; I suspect that I
would eat dead human, if it were an ethically acceptable situation to
me.
But I can understand why others might choose differently.
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swa
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response 34 of 91:
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Oct 5 04:59 UTC 1999 |
You're trying to limit the ratio of meat to other in your diet? You
wouldn't mind eating dead human? Eric, you had better watch out...
I find myself agreeing with #12 and #20. I don't quite understand why
so many people find it deviant to not eat meat (which is the norm in some
parts of the world) and find vegetarians therefore to be either incredibly
exotic or just very silly. To me it seems like one perfectly normal,
healthy option among a variety of options...
Yes, I know that some vegetarians can be just as militant and obnoxious.
I lived with one for a little while. But I've just had one too many
conversations lately along the lines of "Would you like some (bacon, ham,
etc.)?" "Well, um, actually I'm a vegetarian..." "Really? Why?! Don't
you think plants have feelings too? Sadist!" to be properly sympathetic
right now...
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gull
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response 35 of 91:
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Oct 5 15:01 UTC 1999 |
A friend of mine who's a vegetarian (but not militant about it) went to
college in Pullman, WA for a while, which is a fairly rural area. He says
when he told people he was a vegetarian, he got looked at like he'd just
said, 'I only eat styrofoam.'
I think very few vegetarians are militant; I think other people just can't
handle the idea of someone with a different lifestyle. They feel
threatened, so they have to try to convince vegetarians that their lifestyle
is WRONG. The vegetarians I've known would only argue about it if you
started it. ;>
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orinoco
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response 36 of 91:
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Oct 5 17:32 UTC 1999 |
It's kind of like what happened to the word "feminist," which originally meant
"I think women are people too," but which is often interpreted as if it meant
"I hate men". I think a lot of people hear "so-and-so is a vegetarian" and
think "so-and-so hates me because I eat meat" -- and so they feel compelled
to be defensive or justify themselves somehow.
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