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25 new of 281 responses total.
keesan
response 115 of 281: Mark Unseen   Jul 23 14:35 UTC 2005

Dialup is working fine just now, but I don't recall which number I dialed.
Probably 512.  Joe, could Bill L have a try at getting the 28.8K modem bank
to work?  He has a setup that lets him test things offline and lots of manuals
and experience with modems, and also a vested interest since grex is his only
internet connection.
keesan
response 116 of 281: Mark Unseen   Jul 24 14:52 UTC 2005

It was 513 that worked.  Right now both lines were busy.
mynxcat
response 117 of 281: Mark Unseen   Jul 24 15:01 UTC 2005

Is there something wrong with backtalk? I logged in today, and ALL items in
agora are now "unread". I caught up with everything on Friday, and this is
a little annoying. Help? And thanks in advance.
juicy
response 118 of 281: Mark Unseen   Jul 24 20:05 UTC 2005

probably the file that records what you've read got either corrupted or
dumped.  Usually this is because the partition you're on filled while you were
logged in, so changes couldn't be saved, but other reasons are possible.
albaugh
response 119 of 281: Mark Unseen   Jul 25 19:59 UTC 2005

When I telnet from work, my paged reading of bbs items or e-mail works fine.
When I telnet from home, the last line is either omitted or overwritten with
spaces.  What might account for the difference?  And if I wished to treat the
symptom, how could I reduce my page size line count by 1?
keesan
response 120 of 281: Mark Unseen   Jul 25 20:06 UTC 2005

Sometimes I also lose my last line - I will check if telnetted makes a
difference.  Have you tried ssh instead?
mcnally
response 121 of 281: Mark Unseen   Jul 25 22:05 UTC 2005

 re #119:  I'm going to guess that you're using Windows telnet from home,
 possibly on XP.  And that you're using a different telnet from work --
 either using a different version of Windows or using a different telnet
 app entirely (e.g. puTTY, or Hyperterm, or any of a zillion free or
 commercial alternatives.)

 The issue seems to be that your termcap info isn't getting set properly,
 and if you're using Windows telnet it's probably not helping much.

 A couple of suggestions:

   1)  switch to a program like PuTTY for home use, which has much
       better terminal emulation than the Windows telnet app and also
       supports SSH for more secure connections

   2)  if you don't want to switch away from telnet, use the "resize"
       command to try to reset the number of lines in your terminal,
       e.g., in tcsh, csh, sh, or bash: 
             eval `resize`
       (backwards single quotes in the above are important)

   3)  try a different terminal type, e.g. use "ansi" rather than vt100
       if it works better with the terminal emulator you're using
krokus
response 122 of 281: Mark Unseen   Jul 26 03:35 UTC 2005

:ignore triludaa
Ignoring triludaa
>twit has been filtered
krokus:   twit has been filtered
Telegram from triludaa on ttypc at 23:30 EDT ...
yet you left your tel on!
EOF (triludaa)
Telegram from triludaa on ttypc at 23:30 EDT ...
prick
EOF (triludaa)

Then on M-net:
Respond or pass? Telegram from triluda on ttypa at 23:31 EDT ...
stop being a prick
EOF (triluda)

naftee
response 123 of 281: Mark Unseen   Jul 26 04:43 UTC 2005

lolz

triluda is funny
nharmon
response 124 of 281: Mark Unseen   Jul 26 11:58 UTC 2005

We feel your pain krokus.
naftee
response 125 of 281: Mark Unseen   Jul 26 14:04 UTC 2005

You feel it up the bum-hole.
gracel
response 126 of 281: Mark Unseen   Jul 26 17:39 UTC 2005

About 15 minutes ago, after being timed-out (distracted by snail-mail 
arriving) I tried to get back on, but the modem just rang and rang 
without answering.  Telnet works.

The same thing, except an unexpected-disconnect instead of a 
time-out, happened to kingjon yesterday evening.
albaugh
response 127 of 281: Mark Unseen   Jul 26 21:48 UTC 2005

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tod
response 128 of 281: Mark Unseen   Jul 26 21:50 UTC 2005

Supersize
albaugh
response 129 of 281: Mark Unseen   Jul 26 22:00 UTC 2005

Re: resp:121 - Thanks for the reponse.  I see that there is no "resize" on
grex.  And my last-line-gobbled-on-home-telnet problem did *not* occur under
old grex, just nextgrex.  At work, I use Hummingbird's telnet.  At home I do  
indeed use the Windows telnet.

Is there no "pagesize" / "pageslines" setting in some config file I could
edit?
mcnally
response 130 of 281: Mark Unseen   Jul 26 23:54 UTC 2005

Typically no..  In a SysVish Unix system you could set the "ROWS"
environment variable, but the the BSD variant we're using does
things a little differently.  What happens if you do "tset vt102"
or "tset ansi" in the shell?  Do either of those termcaps work better?
kentn
response 131 of 281: Mark Unseen   Jul 27 11:21 UTC 2005

  /usr/X11R6/bin/resize
albaugh
response 132 of 281: Mark Unseen   Jul 27 16:48 UTC 2005

I'll have to get back to you re: those tset variations.  Meanwhile, did the
following do what you would expect?

Respond or pass? !/usr/X11R6/bin/resize
COLUMNS=80;                            
LINES=24;                              
export COLUMNS LINES;                  
mcnally
response 133 of 281: Mark Unseen   Jul 27 18:02 UTC 2005

 Ahh..  apparently it's "LINES", not "ROWS"..  These days my terminal
 software virtually always gets it right so I rarely have to mess with
 it manually anymore..

 The resize command merely outputs what you'd need to type in to the
 shell to get it to set your terminal settings properly, it can't force-
 feed them into the shell's environment.  For that reason it's usually
 used in conjunction with the shell built-in "eval", which causes the
 shell to evaluate an expression (in this case, one compounded from 
 several separate instructions.)  To use resize in conjunction with eval
 you'll want something like the backtick syntax I suggested above, e.g.:

   {exit bbs to your shell}
      eval `/usr/X11R6/bin/resize`
   {restart bbs and test whether it worked.}

 Using a shell escape to run it from within bbs probably isn't going to
 do you much good.

 The root of the problem, however, is probably that your terminal program
 is misreporting the number of lines and columns..  In which case you can
 either look at the results from /usr/X11R6/bin/resize and fudge a bit or
 (as I keep suggesting, I realize..) switch to a better terminal program,
 e.g. PuTTY.
gracel
response 134 of 281: Mark Unseen   Jul 29 16:50 UTC 2005

It's been three days since we were able to dial in at all; the modem
phone rings indefinitely and is not answered.
keesan
response 135 of 281: Mark Unseen   Jul 29 17:23 UTC 2005

I was able to dial in today, after 2 days of no connections.  Try again.
kingjon
response 136 of 281: Mark Unseen   Jul 29 23:05 UTC 2005

We finally succeeded in dialing in, when we noticed that there was another
official number posted in the motd. So I can report: 484-0512 rings open
indefinitely; 484-0513 works (at least for now).
keesan
response 137 of 281: Mark Unseen   Jul 30 00:52 UTC 2005

512 also would not connect for me today.
gelinas
response 138 of 281: Mark Unseen   Jul 30 01:31 UTC 2005

I may be able to get over that way on Monday.  I'll see if I have another
modem to drop in.
albaugh
response 139 of 281: Mark Unseen   Jul 30 02:58 UTC 2005

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