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krj
response 114 of 143: Mark Unseen   May 17 22:32 UTC 2001

Oh dear oh dear oh dear...
 
http://www.mp3newswire.net/stories/2001/expire.html
 
picks up on a NYTimes report where the new MusicNet pay download
service was demonstrated for Congress in the last couple of days.
The MP3newswire.net story focuses on the plan to make users pay, and
pay, and pay...   "When a user downloads a song, it remains available
for 30 days at which point the user can decide to renew the license
for 30 more days, as long as the monthly fee is paid again...
... a typical $10 monthly subscription might include the ability 
to download or listen to 75 songs."
 
I smell market rejection, but maybe I'm just too optimistic.  :)
mwg
response 115 of 143: Mark Unseen   May 18 03:45 UTC 2001

This all gets irritating.  How long before using terms from TV shows is
declared copyright infringment and payments asessed?

Drift of a sort.  All this DMCA stupidity has my brain making odd
conncetions.  It occurs to me that if the DMCA is not removed fairly soon,
then Microsoft has already won thier battle to illegalize open-source
software.  If the interface to the device is encrypted, it becomes illegal
to reverse-engineer it for writing non-vendor drivers even if you are
using the interoperability exception that has been used now and then.

Drifting back, the copyguards on new technology present the content
producers with an interesting dilemma.  If they turn on the copyguards too
soon, they risk wholesale rejection of the technologies.  Do they have the
patience to leave the guards turned off for the number of years that
saturation of a new technology takes?  Most consumers are not aware of any
of the nonsense under discussion in this item.  It literally falls outside
thier world for now.  Most people won't know that a device has
use-management built in until it bites them, by which time they've likely
no chance of returning the device.

If the public can find out about the copyguards ahead of time, the
question then becomes who can last longer in somethine like digital TV,
the manufacturers, who can coast for a while on accumulated money, or
consumers, who can use old technology for old recordings but cannot access
new programming when analog broadcasts become illegal?

There is no possibility of this actually happening, but I'd like to see a
truth-in-labeling applied to devices with use-management systems.  On the
OUTSIDE of the box.  Right now, the only warning most people get about
region control on DVDs is buried in the back of the instruction book,
after they have opened the box and hooked up the player.  Imagine how well
a digital recorder would sell if the box had to say "This device contains
rights-management technology that may prevent you from recording a
program, copying it after recording, or playing it back more than once."
Neutronium balloons, anyone?
gelinas
response 116 of 143: Mark Unseen   May 18 03:50 UTC 2001

Hmmm.... Didn't the courts find that shrink-wrap licenses were illegal?  How
is this different?
krj
response 117 of 143: Mark Unseen   May 18 19:49 UTC 2001

Wired.com has a couple of entertaining pieces today.
 
http://www.wired.com/news/mp3/0,1285,43894,00.html

is essentially a boring press release from InterTrust about their new
copy-prevention stuff which is already in use by some customers.  But the 
killer is the last paragraph, quoting an InterTrust executive vice
president:

  ((The record companies)) "...also have to move away from the CD and into a
  protected medium with a disk with encrypted music on it.
  Right now, it's like putting out master recordings that can
  be immediately copied and traded on the Internet." 

Exactly how the record companies would survive a drastic phaseout of 
the CD is not explained.  :)

http://www.wired.com/news/mp3/0,1285,43898,00.html

Essentially, the record companies are telling Congress that if there 
is going to be music on the Internet, then the record companies have 
to be able to run over the rights of songwriting copyright holders.
The record companies have now taken the place of Napster in arguing
for a mechanical rights formula, a solution they opposed when Napster
wanted it.
gull
response 118 of 143: Mark Unseen   May 21 15:00 UTC 2001

Re #116: I think there's a new law in the works that makes them legally
binding.  Maybe it's already passed.  You'd better start reading them more
carefully in case they say something like "you agree to give all your
worldly belongings to Yoyodyne Software, Inc. in the event the company
suffers financial difficulties." ;>
krj
response 119 of 143: Mark Unseen   May 21 16:17 UTC 2001

News item: mp3.com has been bought by Vivendi Universal.  mp3.com had been 
the largest source of legitimate music files from independent artists,
and Vivendi Universal is the world's largest music company.
 
News item: On the grounds of trademark infringement, Aimster has 
lost its URL aimster.com to AOL.
krj
response 120 of 143: Mark Unseen   May 21 17:28 UTC 2001

(To crib from another analyst's piece, the mp3.com acquisition means 
that the biggest Internet music operations are now in the hands of 
the major labels.  Can anyone think of any sizable independents that
are left?)
dbratman
response 121 of 143: Mark Unseen   May 21 20:04 UTC 2001

Perhaps it is slightly odd that if something called "Vivendi Universal" 
is the world's largest music company, I have never heard of it before.

Or perhaps not.
krj
response 122 of 143: Mark Unseen   May 21 20:14 UTC 2001

((You just haven't been following the mergers.  Seagrams, the Canadian
liquor company, bought MCA -- was that the mid-1990s?
At the time most of the music operations were under the MCA name.
Seagrams then bought the music operations of the Dutch firm Philips,
which were called Polygram.  MCA and Polygram were rolled together
to create the Universal Music Group.  Then in the last year the 
French media conglomerate Vivendi bought Seagrams to create
Vivendi Universal.))
krj
response 123 of 143: Mark Unseen   May 21 20:21 UTC 2001

((David, Vivendi Universal might be of particular interest to you because
they control the biggest chunk of major-label classical catalog.
London/Decca, Angel, Deutsche Gramophon, Philips are just a few of 
the brand labels & catalogs which Vivendi Universal has ended up with.))
mcnally
response 124 of 143: Mark Unseen   May 21 22:38 UTC 2001

 re #118:  You're probably talking about UCITA, which has been adopted
 in several states and is being heavily lobbied in the rest.

krj
response 125 of 143: Mark Unseen   May 22 23:01 UTC 2001

http://www.nytimes.com/2001/05/22/technology/22MUSI.html

analysis:  "Vivendi Deal for MP3.com Highlights Trend"

"The upshot, industry analysts say, is that the
five major record companies could wind up
actually consolidating their power in an
Internet age that some analysts thought would
shake the labels to their core."     

We mentioned this before; the major music companies now seem to be 
on the verge of tightening their stranglehold on the distribution
of music.

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http://www.latimes.com/business/20010521/t000042593.html

"Net Music Services in Royal Bind"

Best summary I've seen of the controversy between the music publishers
and the online music business.

In today's world, music publishers get a "performance" royalty when a song is 
broadcast on the radio, or else they get a "reproduction" royalty when a 
physical disc or tape is sold.  On the net, these neat categories get blurred,
and according to this article the music publishers feel they should get 
both performance and reproduction royalties for music downloads.


krj
response 126 of 143: Mark Unseen   May 23 14:54 UTC 2001

Another story about how the big labels now own most of the online 
music cards:

http://www.businessweek.com/bwdaily/dnflash/may2001/nf20010522_934.htm

quote:  "As the dust settles on the online-music landscape, there appears 
         to be little left that the big labels haven't bought -- or broken. 
         Napster traffic is plummeting as the court-mandated filtering 
         systems have made it significantly harder to find
         music that consumers want. Among the top-10 music sites only two 
         don't belong to the big labels, according to traffic measurements 
         by online-research firm Jupiter Media Metrix." 

And according to the article, only one of those two is a true independent,
launch.com; the other unnamed site is owned by a unnamed large corporation.
 
krj
response 127 of 143: Mark Unseen   May 23 15:17 UTC 2001

Here's a very interesting review of what looks to be a very interesting
book:  DIGITAL COPYRIGHT, by Jessica Litman.

http://slashdot.org/books/01/03/28/0121209.shtml

krj
response 128 of 143: Mark Unseen   May 26 19:29 UTC 2001

News item from everywhere: the RIAA has sued Aimster, the encrypted 
file exchange system built on top of AOL Instant Message.  Aimster has
also lost a contest for their domain name; AOL claims "aimster" is a 
trademark infringement.
scg
response 129 of 143: Mark Unseen   May 26 21:33 UTC 2001

From what I've read, Aimster has nothing to do with AOL Instant Messenger,
but rather is named after its creator's daughter.  That people (including me,
before I read an article about it a week or two ago) are confused by the name
and think it has something do with AIM is pretty much the legal test for
trademark infringement, if I understand trademark law correctly.
mdw
response 130 of 143: Mark Unseen   May 27 00:04 UTC 2001

Wasn't AIM a single-board computer kit related to the KIM?
danr
response 131 of 143: Mark Unseen   May 27 01:41 UTC 2001

Yes. I used to actually used to have an AIM-65. I even had the BASIC 
interpreter in ROM.
krj
response 132 of 143: Mark Unseen   Jun 5 21:43 UTC 2001

Two items today from http://www.sfgate.com , the website of the 
San Francisco Chronicle:
 
http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/news/archive/2001/06/05/financial1
539EDT0235.DTL
 
(sorry about the wrapped URL) is an AP story reporting that Napster is 
close to concluding licensing deals with the major labels in the 
MusicNet coalition, which are AOL Time Warner, Bertelsmann & EMI.
There are caveats that the labels are still not satisfied with Napster's
protections against copyright infringements.
 
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2001/06/05/BU111061.DTL
 
"Battle over digital music moves to recordable CD drives."

EMI has acquired a partial stake in Roxio.  Roxio, the maker of the 
software program Easy CD Creator, was recently spun off from Adaptec.

     "EMI Music, one of the big five record labels, plans to announce
     a deal with Roxio Inc. of Milpitas today to develop technology designed
     to control the burning ((of CDs by consumers)).  Roxio makes CD-burning
     software that is shipped with about 70 percent of the estimated 100
     million recordable CD units in the marketplace.

     "How that technology will work or exactly what it 
     will do is unclear, although executives at the two companies 
     said one example might be to program CD burners to prohibit 
     copying of a song unless the user pays a fee."

An executive of Roxio says the interest is not in controlling what is 
done today with CDs, but what will be done in the future with downloaded
music files.

Analysts suggest that consumers will not put up with restrictions on 
what they can do with their CD burners, or with downloaded files they have
paid for.
mcnally
response 133 of 143: Mark Unseen   Jun 5 23:37 UTC 2001

  How lucky that we have analysts to tell us that..  :-p
krj
response 134 of 143: Mark Unseen   Jun 6 21:39 UTC 2001

Here's a more detailed article about the EMI/Roxio proposal to put 
controls into CD burning software:

http://www.siliconvalley.com/docs/news/depth/roxio060501.htm

Emi's idea is that the consumer would buy a license to burn the downloaded
music file; they think one in four CD sales could be done this way in 
five years.  They say they view this as a new channel for sales.
 
And here are two articles on the shape of the new for-pay Napster service:
http://www.inside.com/jcs/Story?article_id=32416&pod_id=13
http://www.wired.com/news/mp3/0,1285,44322,00.html

The inside.com article, by Charles C. Mann, is better, but unless Salon
picks it up, the link will be broken in a day or three.

Napster is going to charge for one level of access for downloading 
music from independent labels, and for another level of access to get to 
music from their three major-label partners in the RealNet alliance.
 
The publishers are still a huge stumbling block in Napster's path towards
a July re-launch as a centralized downloading service; the technical 
challenges are also seen as formidable, since no one has ever attempted 
to stream as much music as Napster is expected to dish out from a few 
central servers.
 
The description of how the two-tier Napster will work -- with two 
separate pieces of user software, initially -- sound like another flop
in the making.
krj
response 135 of 143: Mark Unseen   Jun 14 23:42 UTC 2001

A Cnet story about how ISP's are being pressured into helping copyright
holders hunt down their customers:

http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1005-200-6221068.html?tag=st.mu.1652424.ncnet.1
005-200-6221068

ISPs argue that the DMCA covers having the ISP remove infringing material
from the ISP's machines, but it does not cover terminating customers 
who are infringing copyrights from their own machines.

The ISPs are worried that they will be found liable for their customers'
copyright infringements by courts in Europe; ISPs are generally 
protected from such liability by US law.

other
response 136 of 143: Mark Unseen   Jun 17 06:38 UTC 2001

That's like prosecuting telcos for their customers' harassing phone calls.
krj
response 137 of 143: Mark Unseen   Jun 17 06:55 UTC 2001

Telcos have clear protection in the law due to their status as 
"common carriers," who are obligated to carry the traffic of all 
comers.  ISPs have not generally been recognized as "common carriers"
since by Internet custom there are some activities of their users which
they are expected to police, such as vandalism of other systems and 
sending lots of spam e-mail.  ISPs had considerable & realistic liability
worries until the DMCA granted them protection in the early 1990s.
However, the protections of the DMCA cover American courts only, and 
many jurisdictions are now interested in extending extraterritoriality
in Internet cases.  My understanding of the trend in Europe is that 
European courts have been much more willing to bring ISPs into cases;
at a minimum there are the two cases where Germany prosecuted CompuServe
for transmitting pornography, and where France has pursued action 
against Yahoo over American-based sales of Nazi memorabilia.
 
So if I ran a Napster clone on my PC and offered up copies of material 
of European origin, or offered them so they could be downloaded in 
Europe, the European rights holder would want to take action against
my American ISP in European courts.

(I'm tired and babbling...)
other
response 138 of 143: Mark Unseen   Jun 17 07:56 UTC 2001

What jurisdiction would an EU court have over an American ISP?

Even the French Nazi/Yahoo Auction thing is being reviewed because of
jurisdictional concerns.
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