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krj
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response 114 of 143:
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May 17 22:32 UTC 2001 |
Oh dear oh dear oh dear...
http://www.mp3newswire.net/stories/2001/expire.html
picks up on a NYTimes report where the new MusicNet pay download
service was demonstrated for Congress in the last couple of days.
The MP3newswire.net story focuses on the plan to make users pay, and
pay, and pay... "When a user downloads a song, it remains available
for 30 days at which point the user can decide to renew the license
for 30 more days, as long as the monthly fee is paid again...
... a typical $10 monthly subscription might include the ability
to download or listen to 75 songs."
I smell market rejection, but maybe I'm just too optimistic. :)
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mwg
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response 115 of 143:
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May 18 03:45 UTC 2001 |
This all gets irritating. How long before using terms from TV shows is
declared copyright infringment and payments asessed?
Drift of a sort. All this DMCA stupidity has my brain making odd
conncetions. It occurs to me that if the DMCA is not removed fairly soon,
then Microsoft has already won thier battle to illegalize open-source
software. If the interface to the device is encrypted, it becomes illegal
to reverse-engineer it for writing non-vendor drivers even if you are
using the interoperability exception that has been used now and then.
Drifting back, the copyguards on new technology present the content
producers with an interesting dilemma. If they turn on the copyguards too
soon, they risk wholesale rejection of the technologies. Do they have the
patience to leave the guards turned off for the number of years that
saturation of a new technology takes? Most consumers are not aware of any
of the nonsense under discussion in this item. It literally falls outside
thier world for now. Most people won't know that a device has
use-management built in until it bites them, by which time they've likely
no chance of returning the device.
If the public can find out about the copyguards ahead of time, the
question then becomes who can last longer in somethine like digital TV,
the manufacturers, who can coast for a while on accumulated money, or
consumers, who can use old technology for old recordings but cannot access
new programming when analog broadcasts become illegal?
There is no possibility of this actually happening, but I'd like to see a
truth-in-labeling applied to devices with use-management systems. On the
OUTSIDE of the box. Right now, the only warning most people get about
region control on DVDs is buried in the back of the instruction book,
after they have opened the box and hooked up the player. Imagine how well
a digital recorder would sell if the box had to say "This device contains
rights-management technology that may prevent you from recording a
program, copying it after recording, or playing it back more than once."
Neutronium balloons, anyone?
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gelinas
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response 116 of 143:
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May 18 03:50 UTC 2001 |
Hmmm.... Didn't the courts find that shrink-wrap licenses were illegal? How
is this different?
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krj
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response 117 of 143:
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May 18 19:49 UTC 2001 |
Wired.com has a couple of entertaining pieces today.
http://www.wired.com/news/mp3/0,1285,43894,00.html
is essentially a boring press release from InterTrust about their new
copy-prevention stuff which is already in use by some customers. But the
killer is the last paragraph, quoting an InterTrust executive vice
president:
((The record companies)) "...also have to move away from the CD and into a
protected medium with a disk with encrypted music on it.
Right now, it's like putting out master recordings that can
be immediately copied and traded on the Internet."
Exactly how the record companies would survive a drastic phaseout of
the CD is not explained. :)
http://www.wired.com/news/mp3/0,1285,43898,00.html
Essentially, the record companies are telling Congress that if there
is going to be music on the Internet, then the record companies have
to be able to run over the rights of songwriting copyright holders.
The record companies have now taken the place of Napster in arguing
for a mechanical rights formula, a solution they opposed when Napster
wanted it.
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gull
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response 118 of 143:
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May 21 15:00 UTC 2001 |
Re #116: I think there's a new law in the works that makes them legally
binding. Maybe it's already passed. You'd better start reading them more
carefully in case they say something like "you agree to give all your
worldly belongings to Yoyodyne Software, Inc. in the event the company
suffers financial difficulties." ;>
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krj
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response 119 of 143:
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May 21 16:17 UTC 2001 |
News item: mp3.com has been bought by Vivendi Universal. mp3.com had been
the largest source of legitimate music files from independent artists,
and Vivendi Universal is the world's largest music company.
News item: On the grounds of trademark infringement, Aimster has
lost its URL aimster.com to AOL.
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krj
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response 120 of 143:
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May 21 17:28 UTC 2001 |
(To crib from another analyst's piece, the mp3.com acquisition means
that the biggest Internet music operations are now in the hands of
the major labels. Can anyone think of any sizable independents that
are left?)
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dbratman
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response 121 of 143:
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May 21 20:04 UTC 2001 |
Perhaps it is slightly odd that if something called "Vivendi Universal"
is the world's largest music company, I have never heard of it before.
Or perhaps not.
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krj
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response 122 of 143:
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May 21 20:14 UTC 2001 |
((You just haven't been following the mergers. Seagrams, the Canadian
liquor company, bought MCA -- was that the mid-1990s?
At the time most of the music operations were under the MCA name.
Seagrams then bought the music operations of the Dutch firm Philips,
which were called Polygram. MCA and Polygram were rolled together
to create the Universal Music Group. Then in the last year the
French media conglomerate Vivendi bought Seagrams to create
Vivendi Universal.))
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krj
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response 123 of 143:
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May 21 20:21 UTC 2001 |
((David, Vivendi Universal might be of particular interest to you because
they control the biggest chunk of major-label classical catalog.
London/Decca, Angel, Deutsche Gramophon, Philips are just a few of
the brand labels & catalogs which Vivendi Universal has ended up with.))
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mcnally
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response 124 of 143:
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May 21 22:38 UTC 2001 |
re #118: You're probably talking about UCITA, which has been adopted
in several states and is being heavily lobbied in the rest.
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krj
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response 125 of 143:
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May 22 23:01 UTC 2001 |
http://www.nytimes.com/2001/05/22/technology/22MUSI.html
analysis: "Vivendi Deal for MP3.com Highlights Trend"
"The upshot, industry analysts say, is that the
five major record companies could wind up
actually consolidating their power in an
Internet age that some analysts thought would
shake the labels to their core."
We mentioned this before; the major music companies now seem to be
on the verge of tightening their stranglehold on the distribution
of music.
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http://www.latimes.com/business/20010521/t000042593.html
"Net Music Services in Royal Bind"
Best summary I've seen of the controversy between the music publishers
and the online music business.
In today's world, music publishers get a "performance" royalty when a song is
broadcast on the radio, or else they get a "reproduction" royalty when a
physical disc or tape is sold. On the net, these neat categories get blurred,
and according to this article the music publishers feel they should get
both performance and reproduction royalties for music downloads.
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krj
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response 126 of 143:
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May 23 14:54 UTC 2001 |
Another story about how the big labels now own most of the online
music cards:
http://www.businessweek.com/bwdaily/dnflash/may2001/nf20010522_934.htm
quote: "As the dust settles on the online-music landscape, there appears
to be little left that the big labels haven't bought -- or broken.
Napster traffic is plummeting as the court-mandated filtering
systems have made it significantly harder to find
music that consumers want. Among the top-10 music sites only two
don't belong to the big labels, according to traffic measurements
by online-research firm Jupiter Media Metrix."
And according to the article, only one of those two is a true independent,
launch.com; the other unnamed site is owned by a unnamed large corporation.
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krj
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response 127 of 143:
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May 23 15:17 UTC 2001 |
Here's a very interesting review of what looks to be a very interesting
book: DIGITAL COPYRIGHT, by Jessica Litman.
http://slashdot.org/books/01/03/28/0121209.shtml
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krj
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response 128 of 143:
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May 26 19:29 UTC 2001 |
News item from everywhere: the RIAA has sued Aimster, the encrypted
file exchange system built on top of AOL Instant Message. Aimster has
also lost a contest for their domain name; AOL claims "aimster" is a
trademark infringement.
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scg
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response 129 of 143:
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May 26 21:33 UTC 2001 |
From what I've read, Aimster has nothing to do with AOL Instant Messenger,
but rather is named after its creator's daughter. That people (including me,
before I read an article about it a week or two ago) are confused by the name
and think it has something do with AIM is pretty much the legal test for
trademark infringement, if I understand trademark law correctly.
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mdw
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response 130 of 143:
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May 27 00:04 UTC 2001 |
Wasn't AIM a single-board computer kit related to the KIM?
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danr
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response 131 of 143:
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May 27 01:41 UTC 2001 |
Yes. I used to actually used to have an AIM-65. I even had the BASIC
interpreter in ROM.
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krj
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response 132 of 143:
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Jun 5 21:43 UTC 2001 |
Two items today from http://www.sfgate.com , the website of the
San Francisco Chronicle:
http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/news/archive/2001/06/05/financial1
539EDT0235.DTL
(sorry about the wrapped URL) is an AP story reporting that Napster is
close to concluding licensing deals with the major labels in the
MusicNet coalition, which are AOL Time Warner, Bertelsmann & EMI.
There are caveats that the labels are still not satisfied with Napster's
protections against copyright infringements.
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2001/06/05/BU111061.DTL
"Battle over digital music moves to recordable CD drives."
EMI has acquired a partial stake in Roxio. Roxio, the maker of the
software program Easy CD Creator, was recently spun off from Adaptec.
"EMI Music, one of the big five record labels, plans to announce
a deal with Roxio Inc. of Milpitas today to develop technology designed
to control the burning ((of CDs by consumers)). Roxio makes CD-burning
software that is shipped with about 70 percent of the estimated 100
million recordable CD units in the marketplace.
"How that technology will work or exactly what it
will do is unclear, although executives at the two companies
said one example might be to program CD burners to prohibit
copying of a song unless the user pays a fee."
An executive of Roxio says the interest is not in controlling what is
done today with CDs, but what will be done in the future with downloaded
music files.
Analysts suggest that consumers will not put up with restrictions on
what they can do with their CD burners, or with downloaded files they have
paid for.
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mcnally
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response 133 of 143:
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Jun 5 23:37 UTC 2001 |
How lucky that we have analysts to tell us that.. :-p
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krj
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response 134 of 143:
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Jun 6 21:39 UTC 2001 |
Here's a more detailed article about the EMI/Roxio proposal to put
controls into CD burning software:
http://www.siliconvalley.com/docs/news/depth/roxio060501.htm
Emi's idea is that the consumer would buy a license to burn the downloaded
music file; they think one in four CD sales could be done this way in
five years. They say they view this as a new channel for sales.
And here are two articles on the shape of the new for-pay Napster service:
http://www.inside.com/jcs/Story?article_id=32416&pod_id=13
http://www.wired.com/news/mp3/0,1285,44322,00.html
The inside.com article, by Charles C. Mann, is better, but unless Salon
picks it up, the link will be broken in a day or three.
Napster is going to charge for one level of access for downloading
music from independent labels, and for another level of access to get to
music from their three major-label partners in the RealNet alliance.
The publishers are still a huge stumbling block in Napster's path towards
a July re-launch as a centralized downloading service; the technical
challenges are also seen as formidable, since no one has ever attempted
to stream as much music as Napster is expected to dish out from a few
central servers.
The description of how the two-tier Napster will work -- with two
separate pieces of user software, initially -- sound like another flop
in the making.
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krj
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response 135 of 143:
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Jun 14 23:42 UTC 2001 |
A Cnet story about how ISP's are being pressured into helping copyright
holders hunt down their customers:
http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1005-200-6221068.html?tag=st.mu.1652424.ncnet.1
005-200-6221068
ISPs argue that the DMCA covers having the ISP remove infringing material
from the ISP's machines, but it does not cover terminating customers
who are infringing copyrights from their own machines.
The ISPs are worried that they will be found liable for their customers'
copyright infringements by courts in Europe; ISPs are generally
protected from such liability by US law.
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other
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response 136 of 143:
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Jun 17 06:38 UTC 2001 |
That's like prosecuting telcos for their customers' harassing phone calls.
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krj
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response 137 of 143:
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Jun 17 06:55 UTC 2001 |
Telcos have clear protection in the law due to their status as
"common carriers," who are obligated to carry the traffic of all
comers. ISPs have not generally been recognized as "common carriers"
since by Internet custom there are some activities of their users which
they are expected to police, such as vandalism of other systems and
sending lots of spam e-mail. ISPs had considerable & realistic liability
worries until the DMCA granted them protection in the early 1990s.
However, the protections of the DMCA cover American courts only, and
many jurisdictions are now interested in extending extraterritoriality
in Internet cases. My understanding of the trend in Europe is that
European courts have been much more willing to bring ISPs into cases;
at a minimum there are the two cases where Germany prosecuted CompuServe
for transmitting pornography, and where France has pursued action
against Yahoo over American-based sales of Nazi memorabilia.
So if I ran a Napster clone on my PC and offered up copies of material
of European origin, or offered them so they could be downloaded in
Europe, the European rights holder would want to take action against
my American ISP in European courts.
(I'm tired and babbling...)
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other
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response 138 of 143:
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Jun 17 07:56 UTC 2001 |
What jurisdiction would an EU court have over an American ISP?
Even the French Nazi/Yahoo Auction thing is being reviewed because of
jurisdictional concerns.
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