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goose
response 112 of 536: Mark Unseen   Oct 1 20:43 UTC 2003

RE#111 -- I don't think you mean to, but the way you just described it makes
it sound like a Ponzi Scheme.
slynne
response 113 of 536: Mark Unseen   Oct 1 22:13 UTC 2003

resp:111 I never said that the Fed buys Treasury bonds from the 
government. They buy them on the bond market. Hence the name the "open 
market" committee.  And yes, the Fed writes a check on itself which 
increases the money supply. And the Fed *is* a part of the government. 

Maybe you dont know what is considered "the money supply" but I am 
talking about your typical demand deposits, saving accounts, currency, 
etc (I guess I tend to think in M2 but what I have been saying applies 
well to M1 and M3). Here is a link where you might be able to learn 
something  - http://www.ny.frb.org/pihome/fedpoint/fed49.html
tod
response 114 of 536: Mark Unseen   Oct 1 22:43 UTC 2003

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jp2
response 115 of 536: Mark Unseen   Oct 1 23:13 UTC 2003

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jp2
response 116 of 536: Mark Unseen   Oct 1 23:20 UTC 2003

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slynne
response 117 of 536: Mark Unseen   Oct 2 02:07 UTC 2003

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slynne
response 118 of 536: Mark Unseen   Oct 2 02:14 UTC 2003

Jamie, you seem to have no idea how the Fed adjusts interest rates. 
They do it by buying and selling treasury bonds. The money *does* come 
from nowhere. The money that the Fed has is for lending to banks. The 
money used to buy bonds is not part of M2 (or even M3). 

Your comment that the FRS is privately owned is a common 
misconception. It is, in fact, part of the U.S. governent. See 
http://www.federalreserve.gov/faq.htm#frsq3 if you dont believe me. 


jp2
response 119 of 536: Mark Unseen   Oct 2 02:43 UTC 2003

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dah
response 120 of 536: Mark Unseen   Oct 2 02:52 UTC 2003

fine so I laughed.
asddsa
response 121 of 536: Mark Unseen   Oct 2 02:53 UTC 2003

OH, SO YOU DO COME DIRECTLY FROM WORK SOMETIMES AND NOT JUST MONKEYHOST
asddsa
response 122 of 536: Mark Unseen   Oct 2 02:53 UTC 2003

slip
jp2
response 123 of 536: Mark Unseen   Oct 2 02:56 UTC 2003

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dah
response 124 of 536: Mark Unseen   Oct 2 02:58 UTC 2003

;)
jp2
response 125 of 536: Mark Unseen   Oct 2 03:05 UTC 2003

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other
response 126 of 536: Mark Unseen   Oct 2 04:36 UTC 2003

Damn!  Jamie, you must be the smartest guy the Fed has ever had as a 
janitor!
happyboy
response 127 of 536: Mark Unseen   Oct 2 04:58 UTC 2003

*ahem*  you mean "gay coffee boy", i think.
tsty
response 128 of 536: Mark Unseen   Oct 2 07:54 UTC 2003

_The FED_, by martin mayer (c) 2001 - "the insie story of how the
world;s most power financial institution drives the markets."
  
eye-popp0mg, chin-dropping amazing read!
  
isbn  0-684-84740-X (in case youa re intersted)
  
the fed is a creature of congress - teh federal reserve act of 1913.
  
as for clark, he is wayyyy too brittle for politics; and as teh 
valedictorian of his west point class, far to used to being a damn
general rather than a politician. 
  
besides, he is on record as seeing the supreme court's role as 'implementing
his agenda' for the country .. BZZZT!! wrong! thankxx for playing, next?
  
dean may con enough poeple to get nominated, but i hope not, dubb-ya needs
some competent competition.
  
teh wmd 'problem' also bothers me, jep, and i havne't quite resolved
it to my own satisfaction yet. at least, as thigs stand now.
  
on one hand, teh *greatest* wmd was the saddam regime itself - now gone, phew!
  
and quoting, "Those who argue that deposing Saddam was wrong are the 
equivalent of apologists for Hitler. One has increasing difficulty 
telling the difference between Gov. Dean and Prime Minister Chamberlain, 
between Gen. Clark and his role model, Marshal Petain," Ralph Peters, 
author of "Beyond Baghdad: Postmodern War and Peace."
  
remember, please, hitler never attacked us either - and fdr went for
him first.
  
gassing jews and gassing kurds and iranians are too similar to let the
parallel go un-noticed.
  
of coures, clark was leading teh salvation of bosnia, et al., so he at
least has cred for unprovoked intervention. but wait, oh, that was
clinton as prez so it's alright.
  
(and to repeat my conversion, clinton was *right* to goto bosnia.)
 

jp2
response 129 of 536: Mark Unseen   Oct 2 10:16 UTC 2003

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slynne
response 130 of 536: Mark Unseen   Oct 2 13:32 UTC 2003

It's shocking that someone can work for the Fed and still be so 
clueless. SHOCKING! You should tell them that even the coffee boys 
should have a chance to know how things work. ;)
jp2
response 131 of 536: Mark Unseen   Oct 2 14:14 UTC 2003

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slynne
response 132 of 536: Mark Unseen   Oct 2 18:19 UTC 2003

HAHAHA. I was going to ask you the same question. I cant believe that 
you can actually work for the Fed and yet be so clueless. 

I have not talking about any theory of economics (other than agreeing 
with rcurl about some things). I can if you would like but all I was 
talking about was the money supply in the United States and how the Fed 
manipulates it. I was thinking of M2 but what I have said applies just 
as well to M1 and M3. You are the one making all kinds of false claims. 
Go talk to some of your co-workers about how the OMC works. Dont make 
me look up the treasury stats that show that the the US treasury prints 
more currency now then they did 50 years ago. 

I have to call bullshit that 1/3 of the US currency is forged. By all 
means, provide a cite for that and I will admit I am wrong about that. 


tod
response 133 of 536: Mark Unseen   Oct 2 18:31 UTC 2003

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drew
response 134 of 536: Mark Unseen   Oct 2 20:43 UTC 2003

Re #131:
    We *do* have inflation, and precious little growth at the moment. Prices
overall still go up on quite a few things. The proof is as close as your
nearest supermarket, gas station, and real estate broker.
slynne
response 135 of 536: Mark Unseen   Oct 2 21:27 UTC 2003

resp:133 - darn it that I didnt say good cite or well respected source. 
Oh well. ;) Ok, I am wrong about the 1/3 currency thing. 
asddsa
response 136 of 536: Mark Unseen   Oct 2 23:24 UTC 2003

slynne is in a wheelchair?
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