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25 new of 260 responses total.
mcnally
response 111 of 260: Mark Unseen   Jan 11 17:57 UTC 2006

  Yes, it's clear from that bounce message that att.net is blocking 
  email from Grex due to spam issues.
rcurl
response 112 of 260: Mark Unseen   Jan 11 18:38 UTC 2006

What is being done about this? Will it be done soon enough so that mnacbrd 
doesn't have to find a new server? (It is a charitable non-profit that is 
a Grex member as mnac.)

bhoward
response 113 of 260: Mark Unseen   Jan 11 19:03 UTC 2006

If the changes I've made to limit newuser access to outbound
mail are working, that should give us some time to let things
settle and start requesting removal from each of these lists
or get our bad-boy status timed out.
rcurl
response 114 of 260: Mark Unseen   Jan 11 19:31 UTC 2006

Assuming the changes work, what would be a guess for the time to be
removed from blocking lists?
bhoward
response 115 of 260: Mark Unseen   Jan 11 20:13 UTC 2006

No idea.  The few times I've had systems on a blacklist in the past,
it was a transient problem with one of the blacklists that offer
a web interface to request or trigger a cleanup.  With others, we
will simply have to wait until our bad rep times-out, so to speak.

There is some data in /var/log/maillog that may be useful.  It seems
some smtpd daemons when rejecting you are kind enough to point to
a URL for further information on the spam service in question they
used to reject us.
mcnally
response 116 of 260: Mark Unseen   Jan 11 20:35 UTC 2006

 As Bruce says, there are many block lists and all of them have their
 own policies regarding removal.
keesan
response 117 of 260: Mark Unseen   Jan 11 23:59 UTC 2006

The fuse is a Type S 15 amp with a white screw-type end, and the fuse boxes
belong to my landlord.  Jim has removed corrosion before and will do so
tomorrow.  I don't feel like buying my landlord a break panel.
denisea
response 118 of 260: Mark Unseen   Jan 12 00:18 UTC 2006

Its only been a few days since the last time I was here... How come all of
the items are showing up as new?  This  has happened other times as well.
marcvh
response 119 of 260: Mark Unseen   Jan 12 01:35 UTC 2006

Because people responded to them?
bhoward
response 120 of 260: Mark Unseen   Jan 12 01:45 UTC 2006

Is this by any chance the second time your are entering
those conferences since you relogged into the system for
the first time in a long while?  When you join a conference,
picospan shows you the 1st and most recent items if I
recall correctly.  The next time, I think everything you
haven't yet read suddenly shows up as new.
jep
response 121 of 260: Mark Unseen   Jan 12 04:36 UTC 2006

If you want to get removed from Comcast's blacklist, e-mail
blacklist_comcastnet@cable.comcast.com.

Here's how they will respond:

----------
Please do not reply to this message.

This is to notify you that your request for removal
from the comcast.net blocklist has been received.

If you have included your mail server's IP address in
your request, it will be removed within 24 hours.

Thank You
Comcast Network Abuse and Policy Observance
----------

(My mother's ISP was blocked.  I sent them a message from my mother's
e-mail address, and apparently this is what caused Comcast to allow my
mother's ISP to send again.)
rcurl
response 122 of 260: Mark Unseen   Jan 12 19:54 UTC 2006

AOL is still refusing Grex mail

<recipient>@aol.com
    SMTP error from remote mail server after initial connection:
    host mailin-04.mx.aol.com [205.188.159.217]: 554- (RTR:BL)
http://postmaster.info.aol.com/errors/554rtrbl.html
    554- AOL does not accept e-mail transactions from IP addresses which
    554- generate complaints or transmit unsolicited bulk e-mail.
    554  Connecting IP: 216.86.77.194
denisea
response 123 of 260: Mark Unseen   Jan 12 21:51 UTC 2006

re 119, if people respond to items, they shouldn't all show up as brand new
items so I'd have to read all the responses again, or work back and figure
out which ones aren't really brand new...  It doesn't happen all the time,
just sometimes.
cross
response 124 of 260: Mark Unseen   Jan 13 00:17 UTC 2006

This response has been erased.

denisea
response 125 of 260: Mark Unseen   Jan 14 16:09 UTC 2006

I think the conference restarted a couple weeks ago.  Whatever; apparently
its not a big problem and only happened a couple times so far.
other
response 126 of 260: Mark Unseen   Jan 14 20:32 UTC 2006

BACKTALK:

     Today I changed my conference preferences to show new items before
new responses to existing items, and since I did that, the "READ NEW"
buttons show up as inactive despite text specifically indicating new
responses in the conference.  I use the pistachio interface.
scholar
response 127 of 260: Mark Unseen   Jan 14 23:01 UTC 2006

OTHER:

OK.
naftee
response 128 of 260: Mark Unseen   Jan 15 01:01 UTC 2006

WHOA:;
keesan
response 129 of 260: Mark Unseen   Jan 18 03:14 UTC 2006

I am trying to have an email exchange with Jim's son.  Mail I send him from
grex to his 'collegeclub' address bounces because collegeclub is using spamcop
as a single criterion for rejection.  Now he says that mail he is sending me
at sdf is bouncing back because sdf is using the spamcop black list and
collegeclub is on the black list (starting some time today - I got mail from
him there earlier).  So it is good to have several email address.  I have to
write to him from sdf to collegeclub and he has to reply from there to grex.
Spamcop is causing more problems than the spam.  Have gmail or aol or comcast
been on the spamcop list yet?  Argh [TM]
keesan
response 130 of 260: Mark Unseen   Jan 20 15:18 UTC 2006

Operamail.com is also using 'spamblock'.  How long do we need to wait to get
off the spamcop list?  Could we write and explain we are no longer allowing
new users to send mail?
bhoward
response 131 of 260: Mark Unseen   Jan 20 15:58 UTC 2006

Just looked at:
   http://www.spamcop.net/w3m?action=checkblock&ip=grex.org

and got:
   216.86.77.194 not listed in bl.spamcop.net

when verifying grex's current status.

Need more information to chase this any further.
keesan
response 132 of 260: Mark Unseen   Jan 20 15:59 UTC 2006

I just had to sign up with spamcop in order to report the 7 Windows-1251 spams
that showed up in 12 hours because I can't figure out where sdf is putting
user mail.  They have procmail, probably not spamassassin.  Anyone know where
sdf/NetBSD normally puts user mail so I can use procmail there?  
I just noticed that I put both my email addresses in my online resume - I am
amazed that the spammers did not reap the sdf one until recently.  Maybe they
found the word Russian at my website and are sending 1251 for that reason?
All I see is Greek and math symbols.  Linux does not seem to come with 1251,
just KOI8 and iso 8859-1 and cp866 Cyrillic.
keesan
response 133 of 260: Mark Unseen   Jan 20 16:02 UTC 2006

spamblock at operamail.com is refusing grex mail, not spamcop.

From Mailer-Daemon@cyberspace.org Thu Jan 19 14:22:26 2006
Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 14:22:26 -0500
Subject: Mail delivery failed: returning message to sender

A message that you sent could not be delivered to one or more of its
recipients. This is a permanent error. The following address(es) failed:

  XXXXX@operamail.com
    SMTP error from remote mail server after RCPT TO:<XXXX@operamail.com>:
    host operamail-com.mr.outblaze.com [64.62.181.91]:
    554 EMail from mailserver at 216.86.77.194 is refused. 
See http://spamblock.outblaze.com/216.86.77.194

---------------
I can't imagine what they are filtering on - it was a short letter 
thanking someone (in plain English) for sending me a dictionary.  I will 
try again as a test.
keesan
response 134 of 260: Mark Unseen   Jan 20 16:07 UTC 2006

They just returned another short email.  Maybe they are using an out of date
spamcop blacklist?  
keesan
response 135 of 260: Mark Unseen   Jan 20 16:11 UTC 2006

Sdf also got the mail bounced back, but this time not by spamblock.  Her
mailbox is full.  
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