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mta
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response 110 of 254:
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Nov 12 02:47 UTC 1998 |
Thanks, Brighn.
Sindi, I get the impression that where young men and sex are concerned touch
materials are only a momentary impediment. ;) Lets make that some young men.
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brighn
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response 111 of 254:
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Nov 12 05:21 UTC 1998 |
#109> Some stall walls are made of wood. Other than that, I don't know. I
don't frequent gay bars. =} I've never seen such a hole myself, except in
porno mags, where props can be made to order.
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mta
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response 112 of 254:
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Nov 12 15:02 UTC 1998 |
Well, I suppose the shower wall in Porkies was a "glory hole" of sorts
-- at least in the fevered imaginations of the characters.
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brighn
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response 113 of 254:
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Nov 12 17:57 UTC 1998 |
There's a joke along those lines, one variation of which is:
A salesman stopped at a farm and managed to get permission to sleep in the
barn, so long as he stayed away from the house and the farmer's daughter who
(conveniently) slept on the first floor. Unable to sleep, the farmer snuck
up to the house and peeked in the daughter's bedroom window to catch her
crouched on the floor, bouncing up and down on a dildo. He watched her
pleasure herself, and then slip into bed. He crawled under frame of the house
(which, conveniently, was on a platform... isn't this all SO convenient?) and
made a hole in the floor. The next day, he feigned illness, and managed to
get another night in the barn. After dinner, he snuck back under the barn and
slipped his member into the hole and waited for the daughter. Sure enough,
she mistook it for her dildo and started bouncing up and down on it. Hearing
a noise and thinking it was her father coming, she jumped up, kicked the dildo
under the bed, and jumped into bed.
(Yes, there are other versions, but the point is, it's a "glory hole" joke.)
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brown
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response 114 of 254:
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Nov 12 19:28 UTC 1998 |
<brown raises one eyebrow>
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gypsi
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response 115 of 254:
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Nov 13 07:27 UTC 1998 |
<lol> OUCH!!! =)
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joe
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response 116 of 254:
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Nov 14 16:08 UTC 1998 |
I think the whole glory hole concept is more fiction than fact. I've seen a
few holes in bathroom walls, but only big enough to peep through. Bathroom
sex, on the other hand, is a different story. It's very real and happens
everywhere. Bathrooms are major cruising grounds, especially in truck stops
and on campus.
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gypsi
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response 117 of 254:
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Nov 14 16:24 UTC 1998 |
I just can't imagine giving myself to someone through orgasm without
knowing them...it's hard enough to make myself that vulnerable with
someone I *love*. <sigh> But I can see where the erotica lies in
that. The fantasy of sex with a stranger is one of the more common
ones that I hear about.
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lise
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response 118 of 254:
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Nov 14 23:20 UTC 1998 |
re: #91 birdlady! thanks for the welcome.
re: #92 - congrats!
and of course, re: #113 - men come up with the *weirdest* things! esp.
stories about sex (you just know some high school boy made them up).
gloryholing (sp?) doesn't sound that weird. both parties get their needs
met sans communication/formality. convenient, indeed. i think women are
more likely to consider their wild fantasies better left unfulfilled
than men, who decide to find out if it's as good as they thought it
would be. (so, accuse me of being a sexist generalist.. ah well.. i know
*i* will never fulfill some of my wilder fantasies. <lise blushes> did i
just say that?
hey, btw, i ended up (almost accidentally) at affirmation's (& other gay
religious websites)recently. it is amazing how you get a sort of image &
don't realize what is going on under the surface.
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brown
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response 119 of 254:
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Nov 15 05:30 UTC 1998 |
so i ask...
what image ya get
and what IS going on under the surface?
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brighn
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response 120 of 254:
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Nov 15 18:40 UTC 1998 |
I've heard of at least one person having totally anonymous sex... they went
into a bathroom in a designated area where the lighting was poor, bent over
a designated fixture, and got taken from behind by somebody whose face they
never saw. They loved it the one time, and said beyond the thrill of having
done it, it wasn't worth it.
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lise
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response 121 of 254:
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Nov 16 03:15 UTC 1998 |
brown, simply that most people think of religion & homosexuality as
oppositional. but, there are actually glb groups w/in almost every religion
from evangelical to catholic to lds, in spite of the images or stereotypes we
have. so, nowdays, it is possible to have the best of both worlds... (i don't
think this includes anonymous sex).
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bookworm
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response 122 of 254:
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Nov 17 05:55 UTC 1998 |
It's true. A lot of the lds members don't approve of gays and lesbians. More
and more of us, I think, are, however, waking up to the realization that gays
and lesbians (and bis, etc) are just people, same as the straight folks, who
are trying to live the gospel. The sooner we all realize that, the sooner
there will be less friction between straight Mormons and "deviant" ones.
It'll take time, though. things like that always do.
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lumen
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response 123 of 254:
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Jan 15 07:11 UTC 1999 |
New story.
I'm taking Introduction to Students with Exceptionalities for my education
degree. This includes all students who are put at a disadvantage in general
education. Our textbook includes issues that glb students face in the public
schools. I am doing an extra credit assignment on a serendipitious experience
relating to our course or teaching in general, and when I noticed that
material in the text, I remembered all the taunts and teasings that started
in middle school-- I remember fag, and especially queer, hurt me the most.
I didn't know then what bisexual meant, and it was the Reagan era, so
tolerance didn't exist.
Anyway, I have to present this in a written and oral presentation (please,
no sick jokes), so I have to admit to non-cyberspace public that I am bisexual
to make my presentation effective. It also means that I'll be out of the
closet-- truly, so wish me all your luck and pray to whatever higher power
you subscribe to that I'll come out for the better.
(then again, I went to an academically tough college for a little while that
was fairly sexually liberated but didn't have a clue about mental illness.
I had the guts to tell the school newspaper that although people were aware
of various issues and problems of the students, no one noticed mental illness
and learning disabilities, and that students with such were falling through
the cracks. This should be nothing new.)
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gypsi
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response 124 of 254:
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Jan 15 09:41 UTC 1999 |
Jon - when are you doing this presentation? I'll be sure to send all of my
blessings your way that morning. Oh, and we'd all love to know how it went,
I'm sure...
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lumen
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response 125 of 254:
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Jan 15 19:03 UTC 1999 |
I missed my opportunity this morning :( just for today.. I can do it next
week. I've talked to the teacher, and I can choose to present it to her
privately, if I choose to back out. But-- it would raise the consciousness
of the campus, since CWU G.A.L.A. still has a low profile.
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orinoco
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response 126 of 254:
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Jan 15 22:06 UTC 1999 |
May The Force be with you, Jon.
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void
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response 127 of 254:
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Jan 15 22:55 UTC 1999 |
ditto.
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bookworm
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response 128 of 254:
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Jan 15 23:02 UTC 1999 |
I think he'll do okay. He has a lot of people pushing for him (thanks, guys).
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brighn
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response 129 of 254:
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Jan 16 05:10 UTC 1999 |
Good luck, but I should hope none of us would think any less of you if you
chose to do it privately, either... do it publicly for yourself, or don't do
it, but don't do it publicly for GALA or oppressed LBGs everywhere. Do it
publicly because you need or want to, or do it privately.
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lise
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response 130 of 254:
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Jan 19 07:52 UTC 1999 |
Jon, good luck! You're a courageous person, but if you back out that's
so understandable. A guy - already very out- "came out" in our
philosophy class. It was very relevant to the discussion (one of those
"i would have said so myself if I had the guts" - which I don't! my
heart was pounding nervously just because I was sitting next to him!).
It sounds like the class you're in would be a good, tolerant audience.
And I think that in those circumstances, open & 'non-agressive', there
is something to be said for promoting visibility. I commend you for
your bravery.
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lumen
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response 131 of 254:
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Jan 19 22:50 UTC 1999 |
heh-- I wish-- all Ed majors have to take this class, and I think the P.E.
Ed majors at my table would back away.
Point taken, Paul. I want to do it not so much for politics, but because
folks sometimes don't realize who's toes they are stepping on.
I got called a lot of names in school, but fag and queer stung the most. It
may not have been malicious-- preteen boys are notorious for calling someone
a fag to put him down, but I won't allow it as a teacher no matter if the
person is queer or straight.
Some guy called me fag right in class, and the teacher chastised me for
getting upset, without so much as telling him he was out of line. The
teacher, hypocritically enough, didn't allow racial slurs-- but that's the
establishment in the Reagan era for ya.
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keesan
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response 132 of 254:
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Jan 20 02:32 UTC 1999 |
If you can get up the nerve, I think you will surprise a lot of people with
preconceptions who have never know a real glb person and got their ideas from
TV or whatever. As long as you act like you consider yourself a valuable
individual, they will probably get that impression, considering how clearly
and well you express your ideas here. Sounds like your class could benefit
from some educating. But if you think you will be too nervous, private. I
have always been a terrible public speaker.
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jazz
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response 133 of 254:
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Jan 20 15:02 UTC 1999 |
There are a couple of different ways you could approach the situation,
but they simplify to, 1.) do something to the slur-sayer to make them not want
to say the slur again, 2.) do something within yourself so that the slur no
longer provokes a reaction, or 3.) do nothing.
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lumen
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response 134 of 254:
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Jan 20 23:13 UTC 1999 |
I was too young and scared at the time-- just 13, I think.
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