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25 new of 357 responses total.
tod
response 110 of 357: Mark Unseen   Jun 23 14:21 UTC 2010

accountability
lol
tonster
response 111 of 357: Mark Unseen   Jun 23 15:25 UTC 2010

resp:109: As I stated above, we CAN easily allow people to modify their
own responses.  It's wrong to have it setup to not allow this. A
modified response clearly shows that it has been modified (a header is
added that says 'last modified on x date'), so no one can pass off that
it's their original text.  I'm not sure I understand the reasoning for
getting a third party hosted conferencing system.  It seems like it'd be
better to 'own our own content' so to speak.
mary
response 112 of 357: Mark Unseen   Jun 23 15:49 UTC 2010

"Third party" gets it off of our old, Provide-housed hardware and 
eliminates the need for staff setup and maintenance.  The downside, in 
part, is that the interface will be new with a learning curve.  And change 
sucks.
mary
response 113 of 357: Mark Unseen   Jun 23 15:52 UTC 2010

Tony, if you're looking for user support allowing folks to edit their 
responses on Grex, I'm there.  I see room for abuse, to be sure, but 
that's true of just about everything, and I'd like to see it tried.
mary
response 114 of 357: Mark Unseen   Jun 23 15:54 UTC 2010

That last was entered by a user who has zero skills when it comes to proof 
reading.
slynne
response 115 of 357: Mark Unseen   Jun 23 15:55 UTC 2010

As long as I can easily cut and paste other people's responses into mine
so they can't edit them after I respond to them, I'll be happy. 
kentn
response 116 of 357: Mark Unseen   Jun 23 17:55 UTC 2010

Since you own the response, I'd expect you'd be in control of its
contents, not others who have responses quoted.  If they want to respond
to your comment, they can in their own response.  I don't know where the
idea that editing implies others can edit your responses comes from but
that's not what I'm envisoning.
slynne
response 117 of 357: Mark Unseen   Jun 23 18:28 UTC 2010

That isnt what I mean. I don't like the idea of people editing their own
responses if I have entered a reply to their response. However, if I cut
and paste their response into mine, then they cannot do that. That is
all I am concerned about. 

tonster
response 118 of 357: Mark Unseen   Jun 23 19:08 UTC 2010

resp:117: you used m-net for a long time, slynne. when was that ever a
problem there?  I don't think I've ever seen that occur. We've never
prevented people from modifying their responses on m-net.
tonster
response 119 of 357: Mark Unseen   Jun 23 19:10 UTC 2010

and as I stated before, it's clear from the added 'response last
modified' header that a response has been changed, so it should be
pretty clear just based on that that a response to that response could
have been altered in that way.
tonster
response 120 of 357: Mark Unseen   Jun 23 19:13 UTC 2010

resp:112,resp:113: I still feel that doing that pretty much removes all
of what is Grex.  It becomes just another website at that point.
kentn
response 121 of 357: Mark Unseen   Jun 23 19:17 UTC 2010

Right.  
 
If you cut and paste a response and they edit theirs, that will just
show what you responded to.  Feel free to editor yours if you want 
to make this clear.  
kentn
response 122 of 357: Mark Unseen   Jun 23 19:19 UTC 2010

(My response was to 119 and 117.  If I could edit my response, I would
have added this information to 121.  Instead you get another response
and have to figure out how this response relates).
slynne
response 123 of 357: Mark Unseen   Jun 23 19:26 UTC 2010

resp:118 No. I don't think it is a problem there but it could be. It
might be nice on Mnet if a way of cutting and pasting quotes were easier
though. 
resp:121 Yep. That works for me although if we are adding new features,
the blockquote tag feature makes such things easier. 

I am NOT against adding the ability to edit ones own responses at all. I
just would like a way to more easily cut and past text in a way that
makes it more clear that the text being cut and pasted isn't mine. 
rcurl
response 124 of 357: Mark Unseen   Jun 23 20:08 UTC 2010

I don't understand why anyone should want to post-edit their responses. This
conferencing thing is a conversation, and conversations can't be edited. If
one wants to correct themselves in a conversation, they just do that with a
new statement (response...). I see only confusion being engendered by users
post-editing their responses.
slynne
response 125 of 357: Mark Unseen   Jun 23 20:11 UTC 2010

I don't expect it will be a feature used very often and when it is used,
it will most likely be used to correct typos. I doubt I'll do much
editing other than typos myself. 
rcurl
response 126 of 357: Mark Unseen   Jun 23 20:28 UTC 2010

Why bother? Many users currently correct their typos, if significant, in a
subsequent response. It's not as if anything posted here is for the ages. 
lar
response 127 of 357: Mark Unseen   Jun 23 20:30 UTC 2010

you can say that again
richard
response 128 of 357: Mark Unseen   Jun 23 21:09 UTC 2010

As long as you can /quote a user's previous post so it shows up in your 
post in a box, it shouldn't matter if they subsequently edit it.  It 
wouldn't change the quote of their dialogue that you posted in your 
response.
slynne
response 129 of 357: Mark Unseen   Jun 23 21:16 UTC 2010

resp:128 Exactly! That is why I think it would be nice if we also added
something like blockquote tags to make it easier. 
tonster
response 130 of 357: Mark Unseen   Jun 23 23:00 UTC 2010

resp:124: I think it's unlikely someone would want to modify their posts
much past about 5 minutes after they've written something, and usually
to correct a typo.  Either way, it may be similar to a conversation, but
it's not the same.  
lar
response 131 of 357: Mark Unseen   Jun 23 23:19 UTC 2010

I don't see why slynne is worried,her posts look just as stupid in 
context as out
mary
response 132 of 357: Mark Unseen   Jun 23 23:27 UTC 2010

How would this go? Say slynne entered a response in responding to 
something tod entered.  In her response she copied tod's comment.  tod 
comes back and some point and removes all of his posts.  Do tod's words in 
slynne's response get immunity from deletion?

I don't know why but I think this may come up. ;-)
mary
response 133 of 357: Mark Unseen   Jun 23 23:30 UTC 2010

See, I told you I couldn't proof read worth squat. 
tonster
response 134 of 357: Mark Unseen   Jun 24 12:46 UTC 2010

resp:132: tod's words in slynnes response would not be removed, nor
should they.   I doubt very much any software that allows quoting would
have the ability to remove such things.
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