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kentn
response 110 of 123: Mark Unseen   Jan 2 13:43 UTC 2011

So, you'd use version control for some changes and not others?  That
makes no sense.   And not using version control at all makes less
sense.  
veek
response 111 of 123: Mark Unseen   Jan 2 14:35 UTC 2011

resp:109 the difficulty might be in synchronizing stuff? If you add
comments by bypassing svn, when you next rsync, won;t those comments get
clobbered?
jgelinas
response 112 of 123: Mark Unseen   Jan 2 16:51 UTC 2011

Minor stuff that didn't really matter if it got clobbered, I'd simply
make sure that all concerned knew about them and worry about
version-control later.  ("We don't need no stinkin' source!" as one
programmer of my acquaintance once put it.)

Make this trivial change on the fly, then patch and submit a
version-controlled copy.

If I were doing this stuff regularly, I might even batch up a bunch of
trivial changes.  If they got clobbered, I'd cuss at myself and submit
my updates. :)
richard
response 113 of 123: Mark Unseen   Jan 4 21:33 UTC 2011

So is Dan Cross intent on maintaining his seat on the Grex board?  I 
ask this because he stated emphatically last month that he would leave 
Grex if there was continued discussion citing the leaked wikileaks 
documents, as he said it could be problematic to his military status.  
Then Mary said she was going to enter yet another wikileaks item in the 
new agora and he responded that he was in fact leaving, and hasn't 
posted since.  It reasonable to ask if he intends to continue being 
part of the board of the corporation that sponsors grex when it is 
clear that the wikileaks items will continue.  

If Dan has in fact gone away for good he should at least go ahead and 
resign his seat rather than create needless potential quorum problems 
at future meetings.
slynne
response 114 of 123: Mark Unseen   Jan 4 21:48 UTC 2011

Why should Dan give a rats ass about Grex at this point? It would be
*nice* of him to resign formally if he really doesn't intend to come
back. But if I were treated the way he was treated, I would just leave
and not concern myself with the problems of the assholes I left behind. 
kentn
response 115 of 123: Mark Unseen   Jan 4 22:08 UTC 2011

Read resp 0 again: "Dan has served two consecutive terms and is
therefore ineligible to run this time..."

As it is January, his term has expired, therefore, no need to resign.
slynne
response 116 of 123: Mark Unseen   Jan 4 22:35 UTC 2011

See there you go. Problem solved. 
jep
response 117 of 123: Mark Unseen   Jan 4 22:56 UTC 2011

Dan said he would be traveling in India and would not be participating
on Grex for a month.  I hope he will return and continue working as a
staff member after his vacation is done.  If he doesn't, I think it will
be sad for Grex and possibly disastrous.  I have no idea who else will
do all the work he has done.
slynne
response 118 of 123: Mark Unseen   Jan 4 23:05 UTC 2011

resp:117 Over the holiday, I spoke with my brother about this stuff
since my brother is a federal employee. He said that even though he
actually has the security clearance necessary to view the Wikileaks
documents, he also has been forbidden from viewing the wikileaks sites
or any mirror sites. So Dan has a legitimate issue. However, when I
explained the technology and forgetting items, he said he thought that
would be ok. He has not been banned from reading news articles, even
those that quote from the Wikileaks site.

 So if Dan wants to return here after his holiday, forgetting the items
probably will be sufficient to protect him but, of course, he would want
to talk to his direct supervisor about it since that is who would make
the call. 
mary
response 119 of 123: Mark Unseen   Jan 4 23:39 UTC 2011

From talking to folks I know in the military that's my understanding as 
well.  They are using their personal computers to read the news on the web 
and working on disks that have been exposed to WikiLeaks.  Not sure how 
you could avoid that, actually, unless you disconnected from the internet, 
for starters.   

I expect Dan is on vacation and will be back soon.

jep
response 120 of 123: Mark Unseen   Jan 5 02:29 UTC 2011

re resp:119: If he does come back, it was a dirty, rotten, scummy trick
that didn't cost someone else what it could have.

If he doesn't, then it's the same but it costs Dan and all of us. 
Unless, of course, you replace his skills and contributions yourself,
then it just cost us Dan.

It did make your point, I suppose.  You don't care about other people.
rcurl
response 121 of 123: Mark Unseen   Jan 5 06:07 UTC 2011

I don't think anything was done to Dan (apart perhaps from some 
intemperatre language). Nothing has been said here concerning or from 
wikileaks except what is in the public media, and no legal actions have 
been taken against any of the public media. How can such public media be 
verboten?
krj
response 122 of 123: Mark Unseen   Apr 28 18:08 UTC 2011

(( Just for the record, I removed the announcement of the 
2010 election results from the MOTD today. ))
kentn
response 123 of 123: Mark Unseen   Apr 29 02:45 UTC 2011

(( Thanks ))
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