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Grex > Coop > #292: Nominations Open for 2011 Board of Directors | |
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richard
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response 11 of 123:
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Nov 16 18:13 UTC 2010 |
why not extend the nomination period and postpone the election date in
an attempt to gain some more interest?
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jgelinas
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response 12 of 123:
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Nov 17 15:42 UTC 2010 |
We have what, ten, members right now? I'd guess we have all the
interest we are going to get.
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slynne
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response 13 of 123:
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Nov 17 16:16 UTC 2010 |
Perhaps it is time to go to annual meetings?
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mary
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response 14 of 123:
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Nov 17 18:23 UTC 2010 |
I give everyone willing to run for the board this time around a huge vote
of thanks. We're going to have to be making some pretty big decisions
over the next 12 months. And they won't be easy decisions.
I don't think fewer meeting would help. The board needs to be looking
ahead and planning 8-12 months out.
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jep
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response 15 of 123:
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Nov 17 20:22 UTC 2010 |
A couple of years ago, Arbornet had the same problem and moved to a
single annual meeting, with no requirement for physical attendance by
the Board members. Conference call meetings worked fine as a
replacement, in my opinion.
Arbornet also streamlined the by-laws, and trimmed the Board to 5
directors. It just plain didn't need all the structure that had built
up over the years.
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slynne
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response 16 of 123:
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Nov 17 21:06 UTC 2010 |
I was thinking of Arbornet's choice to go that way when I made the
suggestion. I think it can work and special meetings can be called if
needed.
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cross
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response 17 of 123:
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Nov 17 23:16 UTC 2010 |
Maybe it's time for a *serious* overall and simplification of bylaws.
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cross
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response 18 of 123:
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Nov 17 23:18 UTC 2010 |
resp:12 Also, I feel compelled to point out that Grex has done, as far as I
can tell, essentially no advertising...
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jep
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response 19 of 123:
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Nov 17 23:19 UTC 2010 |
There are 10 members. Is it worth all that? You can probably
streamline the by-laws enough to make them workable for the current
Board without much effort, but revising them completely might be a lot
of work.
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cross
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response 20 of 123:
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Nov 17 23:23 UTC 2010 |
I'd say it's worth it in the sense of making the organization more nimble,
which in turn would hopefully make it more viable, which in turn would
hopefully inspire people to join, which would make it worthwhile.
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tsty
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response 21 of 123:
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Nov 18 04:33 UTC 2010 |
11 members ... jadecat joined on 14nov.
and re 20 ... i like bootsgtrapping.
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rcurl
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response 22 of 123:
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Nov 18 04:40 UTC 2010 |
A single annual meeting doesn't encourage keeping up with technology (or
socialology, for that matter).
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jep
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response 23 of 123:
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Nov 18 14:46 UTC 2010 |
Arbornet went to on-line meetings because we didn't have enough members
to fill the Board from the Ann Arbor area. Having them on-line, we were
able to have Board members from Canada, North Carolina, and even
England. The current president of Arbornet lives in Montreal.
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jgelinas
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response 24 of 123:
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Nov 18 17:04 UTC 2010 |
We amended the bylaws to facilitate out-of-town Directors several years
ago. We have had Directors living in Japan and other parts of Asia. I
don't know that we have had Directors living in other parts of the US.
One of the two most recent amendments to the bylaws allows online
meetings.
The problem is NOT the Board of Directors, how many or how often or even
how they meet. The problem is that the membership can no longer support
the organisation. I don't like it, but nothing I've seen in the past
year has given me any reason to question the conclusion.
I'm still considering whether to accept my nomination to the Board.
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rcurl
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response 25 of 123:
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Nov 18 17:58 UTC 2010 |
Have all users been approached to join and support Grex? Many may not follow
the conferences (where there is not much persuasion to join, anyway). What
are the member only "perqs", for that matter?
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cross
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response 26 of 123:
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Nov 18 18:14 UTC 2010 |
Voting. Really, should there be anything else?
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veek
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response 27 of 123:
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Nov 18 19:54 UTC 2010 |
Re #25: what users?
*sigh* *in a slow dr0ning voice*
You need to get people interested in Unix and the Grex community. To do
so:
1. First you need to attract people here by offering things not found
elsewhere. Firewall-checking scanner (wrapper around nmap), ping,
traceroute, whois, dig, host, nslookup - with wrappers around all this.
Geek magnet.
2. Customized domain name with web-space and e-mail:
april.cyberspace.org with homepage templates - Chick magnet.
3. Create CSS flyers for easy printing so people can advertise - Chick
magnet.
4. CGI/MySQL - Geek magnet.
5. Google access to forums and party - Chick & Geek magnet. Also
attracts old ladies and, i guess, old geezers. Lots of advertisement
with niche groups (gay forums, computers for kids, lifehacker, make
magazine, IRC, wannabee hackers, Facebook, etc)
6. reduce the waiting time to a couple of seconds.
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None of them will pay.. when you have 50 people in 'who':
6. Some geeks will volunteer to help out, to impress the chicks. They
may be conned into paying because they can stick it on their resume.
7. Take on 25 paying 'volunteers' and you can rest in peace, especially
if you have 25 female volunteers. This may sound ridiculous to you BUT
I TOLD YOU SO years ago! (and i can dig out the posts if you are so
inclined)
Check this out: http://sdf.org/tour/sdfers/gen.cgi?nullogic@sdf
http://sdf.org/tour/sdfers/gen.cgi?blakkat@sdf
http://hapiworm.feckov.org/me.jpg
http://sdf.org/tour/sdfers/gen.cgi?ellainix@sdf
and they have a facebook page with a few 100 more that are even hotter.
here are some more uglies: http://sdf.org/?sdfers
To do all this, you should have started building up "volunteers" when
csmcgee was on the board. Instead you hold stupid meetings where you
rub each others toes and gloat about stupid bylaws!! Gahh! SDF CHARGES
MONEY! You need to pay to take a dump (quite literally)! And they have
more hot chicks than Arbornet AND M-Net put together!
In case you guys don't remember (because you were too busy stuffing
your faces [a good thing imho - a army never travels empty] and
wondering which bylaw to screw) we had chicks like bipolar, nevi,
barnali, zoezig, and others logging in! And they actually stayed for
some time - like a year at least.
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Simple question: since csmcgee came AND left.. and now kentn.. how many
new features have we added.. umm.. actually better yet.. do we have as
many features as we once had? No CGI (we used to have that), tel/write
are off by default, mail was off until some time back, web-site still
not fully functional, validation makes it harder to do work, newuser
was AWOL for what I assume was a large chunk of time, no wiki page
because we aren't notable - neither is SDF BUT SDF works and now he's
got that bsdtalk interview.. gahh! Even SDF's restricted shell has more
commands even if it's buggy (as in.. you can get arpa-crap for free)
http://sdf.org/tour/sdfers/gen.cgi?erinb@sdf
http://sdf.org/tour/sdfers/gen.cgi?sah@sdf
http://sdf.org/tour/sdfers/gen.cgi?phm@sdf
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veek
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response 28 of 123:
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Nov 18 19:57 UTC 2010 |
And SDF has all sorts of lame games.. but that appears to be very
popular for some weird reason.. people are always playing netris and
comchess (did i mention a certain eclipse.cs.pdx.edu 7680 with no users
who we could talk to. yes i did! when csmcgee was in town! so did
anyone contact them?)
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veek
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response 29 of 123:
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Nov 18 20:05 UTC 2010 |
grrr! *bops rane on his thick skull* let me see now: blbtq, strcpy,
jhesse, pbbl, vvg - and this is WAY too many. prolly because it's 1.30
am here and i should be sleeping. *grumbles* 5 guys with weirdo logins!
i'm sure they'll gladly signup if you ask them.
USER TTY FROM LOGIN@ IDLE WHAT
blbtq p0 ohai004.lava.net 1:05PM 23 /usr/bin/lynx
strcpy p1 109.109.54.82 10:40AM 4:09 -bash
cross p2 ip-66-80-251-66. Fri11PM 0 -bash
jhesse p3 c-66-41-158-63.h Fri10AM 0 elm
kentn p4 24-231-194-179.d 1:43PM
37 /usr/bin/perl /usr/local/bin/fronttal
cross p5 ip-66-80-251-66. Mon07AM
0 /usr/bin/perl /usr/local/bin/fronttal
pbbl p6 pool-74-106-22-1 Fri11AM 37 alpine
rcurl p7 c-24-11-168-114. 2:37PM
0 /usr/bin/perl /usr/local/bin/fronttal
tod p8 web60.justhost.c 2:48PM 0
gate /a/t/o/tod/.cfdir/ft.buffer
blbtq p9 ohai003.lava.net 2:57PM 0 /usr/bin/lynx
veek pa 117.192.27.111 3:00PM 0 w
vvg pc 93-127-18-143.st Tue08PM 23:51 -bash
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jgelinas
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response 30 of 123:
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Nov 18 21:48 UTC 2010 |
Rane, you don't need permission or sanction: feel free to contact any
one you want to ask them to become members.
Once upon a time, outbound Internet access was limited to members, who
had offered identification we could use for net hygiene, which other
users had not.
I'd be satisfied if just every participant in coop would renew their
membership. We need more than that, but it's like a lawyer at the
bottom of the ocean: A start.
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rcurl
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response 31 of 123:
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Nov 19 05:41 UTC 2010 |
Most non-profits that depend upon membership have active membership campaigns,
usually appealing to people to support whatever good purposes they have.
Grex doesn't even have a membership committee, working on ideas to gain
members, especially from users.
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richard
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response 32 of 123:
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Nov 19 06:51 UTC 2010 |
re #31 thats an idea, have a subgroup of board members form a membership
committee that would research ideas and report their findings to the
full board.
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cross
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response 33 of 123:
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Nov 19 11:52 UTC 2010 |
Subgroup of what, five people? How about some volunteers from the community
for that?
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veek
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response 34 of 123:
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Nov 19 12:52 UTC 2010 |
I had a idea, instead of all this: I'll create a 'volunteers' account
(already done). Then I could stick a volunteers home page in it - just
like any normal user (I'll use the Grex template - just color it blue
and say this is 'un-official'). Then a small form, so volunteers can
add register projects - i could run this off Arbornet for the time
being. Once we have enough completed projects and volunteers staff can
just merge the projects with the main web-site, OR link to this from
the main web-site with a disclaimer.
It's useable straight away, when things stabilize we can merge which
creates little work, and it's safe from lawsuits because you haven't
linked to it from the main website.
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veek
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response 35 of 123:
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Nov 19 12:54 UTC 2010 |
the main site has to be formal but this can be anything.. I'll stick
huge disclaimers all over about it being insecure code and run at your
own risk..
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