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vishruth
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response 11 of 22:
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Mar 17 04:47 UTC 2003 |
The intervention of the word 'legal' cuts off the word 'free' from music
(I suppose).
Who would be willing to 'buy' MP3s at the price of the actual music CDs?
I would rather buy the CDs instead. If the MP3s hold any future at all,
they need to be associated with the word 'free'... If it's not, I
suppose it will either become a prey to the pirates or it will become
just another one of those obsolete technologies.
http://www.parikrama.com/
Parikrama is an Indian rock band. They play very good music. And yet,
they have never released even a single 'album' on cassettes or CDs. They
manage to live on quite comfortably even though they don't sell CDs of
their music. This is the fact - they are not greedy! They play for the
sake of playing and not for money alone.
They offer free downloads of their music at the above given URL. You can
find complete songs (in the format of mp3s, and I think they support
this 'real media' too).
Parikrama throws the Gospel of Mammon right out of this world!
(Don't forget to download 'But it Rained' from that site. ;)
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anderyn
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response 12 of 22:
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Mar 17 13:06 UTC 2003 |
I will try them. The problem for most (working) musicians I've spoken to is
that they do have to eat, raise their families, and pay the mortgage. So that
means bringing in money -- and a lot of the ones I know have "day jobs" just
so that they can do the music they love when they can. It's hard to make a
career out of music when the cash isn't there.
"But it Rained" is an interesting song. I'm not sure I "get" the backstory
just from the lyrics and sound. But I'll listen again. (I read what it was
supposed to be about after the first listen..)
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vishruth
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response 13 of 22:
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Mar 18 08:03 UTC 2003 |
Good to know that you found that song interesting. :) This song is a
little different from the ones they usually play. But it's just as good
as others, none the less.
The members of Parikrama are professional musicians. They earn by
performing at different cities. Their quality attracts a good crowd and
they get paid very well for that. As far as I know, they don't have any
other jobs than playing music on stage. They have no problems with what
they are getting now. And they are confident that the the people will
keep wanting them on the stage. So they don't have any problems with
money right now.
They know that they have the potential to amass huge amounts of money.
But they aren't doing that. If people do use their abilities to amass
huge amounts of wealth, I see only one cause behind that --- greed.
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cyklone
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Mar 18 13:02 UTC 2003 |
Huh? If a "normal" person seeks to ensure financial security for the future
we call them prudent, but if a musician does the same we call it "greed"?!?
Sounds like you are one of those who prefers that artists be "starving" in
order to preserve some mythical "integrity" or artistic "purity."
Damn, I feel like beady using all these quotes . . . .
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anderyn
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response 15 of 22:
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Mar 18 13:17 UTC 2003 |
It's great if you can make a living by touring. I'm happy to hear that the
band can do that. I think most musicians I know would be very happy to be able
to do that. And if they're happy with it, that's also very good. I suspect
that this may change as people have families, more expenses, whatever, but
maybe not....
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vishruth
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Mar 21 04:39 UTC 2003 |
Cyklone,
If a "normal" person does that thing, then I consider that too to be
"greed". Why would a man wan 10 million dollars instead of 1 or 2?
Greed dude. I am not talking about those people who are not so popular
in the world contemporary music. My guitar teacher is struggling to keep
up with his expenses. He too tries to 'earn' money by playing music. If
he does something to add up to his earnings, I wouldn't call that greed.
But if a man, who knows that he can be rather well off with whatever he
already has for years and years to come, tries to hoard more and more
(continue till infinity) money, I couldn't call it anything but greed.
That what's called seeking luxury, not just that, but seeing extreme
luxury. Bying a lot of property, yatches... sheesh. Anyway, since when
did musicians become "abnormal"? I mean, they too are "normal" aren't they?
What I wished to say is that certain musicians do not have that much
attachment for money. Sure, they also need money to live with. But when
they know that they have already made enough efforts to secure a safe
(financial) future, why would they try to get more money? In this case,
the band I was talking about - Parikrama - they know their future is
secure. So they don't run after money. Heck! Do you know how much money
they could have made if they had sold their music to record companies?
Well, but I do have one complaint against Parikrama... their music is
mostly live and CDs/cassettes of their music are not available. So it's
quite hard to get their music.
Twila Oxley Price,
Well, I think you are right. But then again, I don't know if they are
married or not. Most probably, they already are. There's this friend of
mine who knows the band personally, I'll ask him when I see him again
(which happens only once in a blue moon).
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cyklone
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response 17 of 22:
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Mar 21 13:25 UTC 2003 |
I know nothing about Parikrama; what makes you so sure "their future is
secure"? You describe a band that apparently does not make a lot of money
off records and probably doesn't participate in the types of tours that
generate millions of dollars. So if one of them were suddenly unable to
sing or play an instrument, how exactly would they live comfortably secure
lives? I'm very interested in how you define a secure future and what
makes you so sure they have one.
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vishruth
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response 18 of 22:
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Mar 23 14:05 UTC 2003 |
You really don't know Parikrama. They are not popular (in your parts,
perhaps) because they don't sell themselves, their talents or their music.
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cyklone
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response 19 of 22:
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Mar 23 23:16 UTC 2003 |
Yes, that is why I began my paragraph with "I know nothing about Parikrama".
And you haven't answered my questions.
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vishruth
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response 20 of 22:
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Mar 25 15:37 UTC 2003 |
Ok, I was tired and didn't want to explain something which I had failed
to do once. In the post #16, I tried to explain what I call 'greed'. And
what I wouldn't call greed. And I probably didn't manage to explain that
well. Anyway, I'll give it another go...
I clearly read your statement where you said that you knew nothing about
Parikrama... by your post, I already knew that you (really, really)
didn't know about them. Just stressing on that point...
Anyhow, Parikrama have already made enough money so that they can live
for years on end without doing anything. I thought I had already made
that clear. They ARE the kind of band who can make millions of dollars
by selling records, but it may be quite difficult to catch this point
because they are quite different from other bands with similar abilities
to hoard a lot of money. So what is the difference? The absense of greed
(or the absence of too much greed, if they do have a trace of greed
somewhere) in Parikrama makes all the difference. They don't need to go
out of India to 'make themselves known to the rest of the world'. They
can be well off just by touring in India (as they have already shown
that they can be rather well off just this way). I was not talking about
a band who are struggling to make a living. I was (and still am) talking
about a band who are satisfied with what they are getting and a band who
have made 'their future secure' already. I just wished to say that
Parikrama is well off with a few million dollars and even though the
band has the capability to make 'a lot of million dollars', they just
aren't doing that. It's just their philosophy, I guess. But certainly
it's not because they can't do this that they aren't doing this.
I hope, I carried my point to you clearly this time. :) (hehe, stupid me.)
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cyklone
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response 21 of 22:
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Mar 26 00:28 UTC 2003 |
Well, that certainly answers my questions better. I was curious if they'd hit
the million dollar mark. Thanks for the details. How many are in the band?
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shinje
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response 22 of 22:
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May 10 12:28 UTC 2003 |
If any of you goto Mp3.com There is a large list of artists sharing with you
1 or 2 tracks off an album for you to listen too some of them you can't
download, some of them you can! One my my faves is Kid Conspiracy which is
a local band from where I live! who have been on Radio one... and even though
there not on a record label (still trying to work otu why not) theyb got one
of there songs onto Kerang magazine (due to making up a fake label) *lol* Very
fun set of guys...
L8erz Shinje!
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