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rcurl
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response 11 of 28:
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Dec 21 05:41 UTC 2011 |
I haven't complained. I have only pointed out some problems. I can't correct
them myself, and I was under the impression that my duty is to point them out
when I find them, so those that can, will. I do assume the fairwitnesses do
read their conferences and try to improve them when problems are identified.
I also think having the problems hang around to confuse people is not to
Grex's benefit.
Perhaps you don't think anything I think is a problem is actually a problem,
but I still think if I do, I should point it out. I don't think I have pointed
out any problems that are not problems.
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cross
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response 12 of 28:
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Dec 21 06:08 UTC 2011 |
I think you have. Far fewer than one percent of Grex users read the
conferences; do you think they care about how outdated an item in some
random conference is?
Who would you have us spend more time on: the handful of users who still
use the BBS, or the thousands of others who could care less about computer
conferencing?
More to the point, just who have you pointed these problems out to? Why
not try to figure out who the fairwitness of the 'info' conference is and
ask him or her to retire the items you find offensive?
Or, if you want staff to do it, send email to help@grex.org; don't post
in some random conference.
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rcurl
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response 13 of 28:
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Dec 21 20:39 UTC 2011 |
Are you supporting the retention of error because the majority don't care?
When I wrote j grex it did not tell me who the fairwitness is. It only
informed me that it was the Grex "information conference". That sounds
pretty official and dependable. So I quoted from it. Hence I cited some
of the info in agora. Eventually someone pointed out that it was wrong.
Seems to me that someone in authority would have noted that and
scrambled to correct the error, instead of taking me to task for not
doing anything about it (at the time I didn't know it was wrong).
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cross
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response 14 of 28:
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Dec 21 20:41 UTC 2011 |
resp:13 I'm suggesting going to authoritative data. You continue to
argue that data that you have been told is not authoritative is authoritative.
That's not my problem.
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rcurl
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response 15 of 28:
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Dec 22 06:13 UTC 2011 |
I have NOT claimed that. I have only suggested that false information
should not be readily at hand with "j grex" in the conferences. I went
to the current version when this was pointed out. But the misinformation
is still in the information conference, and not noted as incorrect. How
is a new user to know what is "authoritative" or not?
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cross
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response 16 of 28:
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Dec 22 13:54 UTC 2011 |
New users rarely try the BBS; they turn to the web first for information.
Stop living in the 1980s.
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rcurl
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response 17 of 28:
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Dec 23 02:25 UTC 2011 |
They don't know the advantages they are missing.
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cross
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response 18 of 28:
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Dec 23 18:45 UTC 2011 |
Perhaps it is you who do not know the advantages you are missing, because
you spend most of your time on Grex in the conferences.
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rcurl
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response 19 of 28:
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Dec 24 04:15 UTC 2011 |
Wat are you talking about? The Grex website says:
"Free Grex Services
Discussion Areas
Real-Time Chat
Internet Email
Web Browsing
Web Hosting
Unix Shell Accounts
Available Software
Mindterm Java Terminal (ssh)
I use at least six of these. What am I missing besides Real-Time Chat
(and I don't need the "Available Software").
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cross
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response 20 of 28:
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Dec 24 04:23 UTC 2011 |
The available software.
Hey, keep yourself firmly rooted in the 1980s; no sweat off my back.
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rcurl
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response 21 of 28:
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Dec 24 18:49 UTC 2011 |
Where do I find a list of Available Software?
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kentn
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response 22 of 28:
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Dec 24 22:14 UTC 2011 |
http://grex.org/software.xhtml
Bit it's more for programmers. You might find something there you
want to try, maybe.
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rcurl
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response 23 of 28:
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Dec 27 03:34 UTC 2011 |
I'm no longer a programmer. I was once (Fortran, for engineering calculations)
but found Excel could do almost all I had need of with Fortran, and much more
simply.
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cross
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response 24 of 28:
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Dec 27 04:17 UTC 2011 |
That still doesn't really explain what the "advantages" of Grex's conferences
are.
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ryan
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response 25 of 28:
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Dec 27 05:54 UTC 2011 |
Grex's conferences allow us to spectate a much more civilized argument
(flame ware?) between two users than the conferences on another
not-to-be-named conferencing system from the Ann Arbor area ;)
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cross
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response 26 of 28:
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Dec 27 18:33 UTC 2011 |
Really? Even since Kerry came back?
Grex's conferences tend to be, frankly, provincial.
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rcurl
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response 27 of 28:
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Dec 27 19:37 UTC 2011 |
I didn't know that you expected me to "really explain what the
"advantages" of Grex's conferences are" but rather that you were going
to tell me some advantages of grex that I am not using, but only came up
with "other software", which I do not have a use for. I think I am
hardly living in the '80s, as asserted, for that.
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cross
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response 28 of 28:
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Dec 27 20:39 UTC 2011 |
Mostly because I find you not worth my time. You are obstinate,
pedantic, egg-headed, and behave like a smug ass. But hey, keep
trying to argue the issue of this item in this conference. Your
condescention is actually kind of funny.
You said, about users who do not wish to use the conferences that,
"they don't know the advantages they are missing." I merely replied
that you don't know what advantages you are missing by choosing not
to use other software; you don't really know whether you have a use
for it or not. If you so narrowly define your criteria for usefulness
so that only the conferences are useful for you, then so be it: the
conferences aren't going anywhere. But don't presume to believe
that they will be useful for other people, or that other people who
*don't* use them are somehow "missing" their "advantages", which
you don't articulate.
This whole thread of discussion is, frankly, a waste of time. You
have been here long enought o know how to figure out who the fair
witness of a conference is; you could email that person about the
bylaws if you wanted. Or email the conference administrator. Or
post in some more active conference. I don't think you'll do that,
though, because I believe you'd rather just argue it than actually
do something constructive.
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