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jep
response 108 of 219: Mark Unseen   Jan 5 18:21 UTC 2005

I was using IE from home.  Sorry to ask for a fix to such a stupid 
problem (and yes, it *is* a stupid problem).  Does Firefox handle it 
better?

I won't be using https as long as I have to keep clicking on pop-ups in 
order to use it.
twenex
response 109 of 219: Mark Unseen   Jan 5 18:25 UTC 2005

Firefox can block popups, but that might disable the secure login itself in
this case. The only other fix I can think of is to email the webmaster and
ask him politely to write better code!
blaise
response 110 of 219: Mark Unseen   Jan 5 18:32 UTC 2005

That's not a popup in the usual sense of the word; it's a browser dialog
window.  IIRC, Firefox does not complain about mixed secure and insecure
items on a page; if I am wrong then it has a "never complain about this"
checkbox on the dialog.
twenex
response 111 of 219: Mark Unseen   Jan 5 18:33 UTC 2005

Oh, those. duh. Jim's solution sounds like a winner, though.
tod
response 112 of 219: Mark Unseen   Jan 5 18:50 UTC 2005

ANy of you ever delete the certificate authority roots out of your browsers
and start from scratch?  
gull
response 113 of 219: Mark Unseen   Jan 5 19:53 UTC 2005

Nope.  Why, you don't trust Versign? ;)
cross
response 114 of 219: Mark Unseen   Jan 5 20:36 UTC 2005

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other
response 115 of 219: Mark Unseen   Jan 5 20:43 UTC 2005

MSIE has pretty configurable security settings.  I'd try looking for
ones that might be applicable here. Depending on how much you rely on
your brain and how much on your browser for secure surfing (you're far
better off with the latter), you might just want to switch the
applicable setting off.
jep
response 116 of 219: Mark Unseen   Jan 5 21:14 UTC 2005

re resp:115: that possibility had not occurred to me.  I did this:

Tools > Internet Options > Security > Internet > Custom Level
Under "Miscellaneous" there is a setting "Display Mixed Content" which 
is set by default to "Prompt"
I set it to "Enable" and that removed the problem.

Thanks!
nharmon
response 117 of 219: Mark Unseen   Jan 5 21:14 UTC 2005

Re #114
Is a cert from a company really necessary? And the cheapest I've found from
a source I trust (which is either verisign, geotrust, or thawte) is $149/year
(thawte.com).

IMHO, Grex's own certs are plenty fine for what it uses them for.
gull
response 118 of 219: Mark Unseen   Jan 5 21:24 UTC 2005

I agree.  I told Firefox to accept Grex's certificate permanently, so I
wouldn't be nagged about it every time.  I don't see what benefit a
trust path to an entity that's trusted by default (which is what you're
paying for) would have, here.
petercon
response 119 of 219: Mark Unseen   Jan 6 15:38 UTC 2005

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petercon
response 120 of 219: Mark Unseen   Jan 6 15:41 UTC 2005

Some people may have more problems in their scripts now that we've 
moved away from a SysV UNIX to a BSD UNIX - the "usr/ucb" directory in 
a SunOS sytem is where BSD UNIX commands were put in Suns SysV OS.  
Something like the move from Korn shell scripts to bash.  Shell scripts 
using Sun's SysV commands may not work the same in BSD (or be missing 
entirely) so be aware.  

Also, there are more differences in the directory structure and the 
whole environment and deamon setup that may affect scripts written in a 
SysV system.  Better test your scripts before trusting them.

twenex
response 121 of 219: Mark Unseen   Jan 6 15:41 UTC 2005

Ksh is now under an open source license. Failing that, pdksh might be
available, but it's a klone of ksh88, not 93.
twenex
response 122 of 219: Mark Unseen   Jan 6 15:41 UTC 2005

Er, clone.
mfp
response 123 of 219: Mark Unseen   Jan 6 15:56 UTC 2005

http://www.clonesforjesus.org/
twenex
response 124 of 219: Mark Unseen   Jan 6 16:23 UTC 2005

SunOS before version 5 (aka Solaris) is BSD, not System V.
twenex
response 125 of 219: Mark Unseen   Jan 6 16:23 UTC 2005

That is, SunOS =>5 is aka Solaris.
tsty
response 126 of 219: Mark Unseen   Jan 6 16:46 UTC 2005

re #107 ..... here is the stuff about that university :
  
Penn State University has just told its 
80,000 students to switch to an  
alternative browser such as Firefox, Mozilla, 
Opera, or Safari.  They  
are urging their students to 
stop using Internet Explorer.

Go here for the entire article in Information Week:

<http://www.informationweek.com/showArticle.jhtml; 
jsessionid=MJHKZY2Y4HQ5OQSNDBCCKHSCJUMEKJVN?articleID=55301109> 
  
  
obviously, the url needs to be pasted twice into your location
field, minus the <> stuff.
  

you will get this headline:
  
Penn State Tells 80,000 Students To Chuck IE
  

lovely headline .......
  

mfp
response 127 of 219: Mark Unseen   Jan 6 16:54 UTC 2005

http://www.jewsforjesus.org/ (site only viewable in ie)
rcurl
response 128 of 219: Mark Unseen   Jan 6 17:00 UTC 2005

I'll help TS out - try http://tinyurl.com/63zy2 in place of that long url.

What's going on eith Mozilla/Netscape? The article doesn't mention Netscape
as an alternative, though I've gotten the sense it is now related in some
fashion to Mozilla. 
gull
response 129 of 219: Mark Unseen   Jan 6 17:05 UTC 2005

Mozilla and Firefox are based on the same rendering engine.  I'm not
sure about Netscape; I think it forked off a couple years ago, but I
could be wrong.
twenex
response 130 of 219: Mark Unseen   Jan 6 17:10 UTC 2005

Mozilla began as an open source fork of Netscape; Firefox began as a
webbrowsing alternative to Mozilla, which is an Internet user's kitchen sink.
rcurl
response 131 of 219: Mark Unseen   Jan 6 17:15 UTC 2005

The "About Netscape" under Netscape 7.1 says

"Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X Mach-O; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624
Netscape/7.1"

and

"Copyright 2000-2003 Netscape Communications Corporation. Portions of this
code are copyrighted by Contributors to the Mozilla codebase under the
Mozilla Public License and Netscape Public License."

So, is Netscape 7.1 the same as Mozilla 5.0?
remmers
response 132 of 219: Mark Unseen   Jan 6 19:24 UTC 2005

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I think that the latest Netscape
and Mozilla use the same "rendering engine" (Gecko) -- meaning that
web pages will look the same in both browsers -- but differ in other
details such as the user interface (menus, toolbars, etc.).
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