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Grex > Coop > #284: Grex Town Hall -- How do we move forward? - Fall, 2010 |  |
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cross
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response 106 of 334:
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Nov 18 18:12 UTC 2010 |
resp:102 That's a good idea.
resp:104 No.
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kentn
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response 107 of 334:
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Nov 18 18:50 UTC 2010 |
Thanks for fixing it.
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tsty
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response 108 of 334:
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Nov 19 06:33 UTC 2010 |
re 105 .. not validated properly, ????????????? what besideds the
validate commmaned is requiterred?
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cross
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response 109 of 334:
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Nov 19 11:52 UTC 2010 |
It looked like he pre-dated the validate command. I ran 'validate' on him.
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tsty
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response 110 of 334:
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Nov 19 23:02 UTC 2010 |
ahhhhhh .. good . . tnx
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veek
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response 111 of 334:
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Nov 20 16:14 UTC 2010 |
http://m-net.arbornet.org/~veek/flyer/
I'm trying to create a CSS flyer so people can take print outs of it and
post it up on boards (both IRL and on the net). It appears to render
nicely in Opera even in print preview, but when I print to a post-script
file it's all wonky..
Could someone test on their computer/printer? I'm on Linux and I checked
in Konqueror - web rendering seems to be perfect, BUT print-preview
comes up weird.. could someone check it out and stuff and if someone
knows css.. clue me in..
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slynne
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response 112 of 334:
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Nov 20 16:29 UTC 2010 |
resp:111 It looks good when I view it in print preview except that it
doesn't all fit on one page
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veek
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response 113 of 334:
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Nov 20 16:37 UTC 2010 |
ugh!
I also need to know what's wrong and what browser/OS.
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tsty
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response 114 of 334:
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Nov 20 16:54 UTC 2010 |
re 109 .... i emailed your info...
6Message from yecril71pl on ttyp6 at 4:27 EST ...
Thanks for validating me, I can send e-mail now.
oo
EOF (yecril71pl)
Telegram from yecril71pl on ttyp6 at 4:29 EST ...
Thanks for validating me, I can send e-mail now.
EOF (yecril71pl)
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kentn
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response 115 of 334:
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Nov 20 17:26 UTC 2010 |
In print preview for Firefox 3.6.12 on WinXP it looks okay, but it flows
to a second page in portrait format. I didn't try to print it. The
content will require review if we go with this flyer. We want to be
sure we're accurate in how we describe Grex and that all the links work.
I'm not sure if the web-based newuser is working correctly yet or not.
Last I heard, it failed part way through the account generation process.
Did that get fixed? Can people use the web newuser page successfully?
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veek
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response 116 of 334:
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Nov 20 19:07 UTC 2010 |
1. any chance of getting CGI - SuExec+Apache installed?? It's easy on
Linux.. simple apt-get. I need it for scripting.
2. tsty: could you activate/validate the volunteers account?
3. What SDF is doing is:
ARPA members have immediate access to:
600mb total / 20000 files
access to multiple subdomains (mkhomepg
-a)
Could we do the same?? "total" 600MB NOT 600MB/user.. instead of stating
that we give xMB/user fixed, could we give both values..
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rcurl
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response 117 of 334:
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Nov 20 19:17 UTC 2010 |
In Firefox 3.6.12 on Mac OSX it runs over to two pages at 100% scale,
but is all on 1 page at 95%. Prints OK too, then. However the Sercices"
box and the graphic coflcit. I'd make the graphic smaller and expand the
width of the "Services", or even not space them, to reduce the overall
length.
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veek
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response 118 of 334:
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Nov 22 14:22 UTC 2010 |
http://m-net.arbornet.org/~veek/index.cgi
hey, hey check this out :) it's not working perfectly and needs more
features (also i need to re-edit content) BUT
1. look at that file-dir thing on the right! also, you can click on
those links and view the contents of the file!
What i'm thinking is EVENTUALLY (that's my home-dir for now) ordinary
voluntary mice can edit "content" in a browser and submit it. Now! If
you ran that on the main cyberspace website ANYBODY can edit code and
fix things :)
And it's rock solid secure (once i do some thingies to it)! What I'm
saying is lynne can put in her password over https (different from the
system password - we could prolly make it the same thing too) and act
as web-mistress!
2. Right now it doesn't do much, 'cept view files.. - it was for the
volunteers page - for them to view crud.
3. You will also be able to view content umm.. like right now those
tags aren't being interpreted but in the future volunteers can right
tiny text files like poetry and have it appear.
(it's basiclly like a crummy MIS.. :p)
anyway.. it was easy to do.. i just bummed some programs :) but i'm
formally registering this project and the grex-flyers project!! no one
else should work on this urmm.. (that's a request naturally..)
(it's still in a very elementary stage..) You can do stuff like:
http://m-net.arbornet.org/~veek/index.cgi?
entry=/../../../../../../../../../../../../etc/motd
but it's read only and only has perms what i have
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veek
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response 119 of 334:
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Nov 22 14:42 UTC 2010 |
there are these guys on SDF.. whom i'm yet to meet.. who fought with smj
(the head of SDF) and they got kicked out etc.. would it be in bad
taste to invite them over? they started their own server or some such
nonsense - everybody seems to think this place is "dead".. oh Grex it's
dead.. jeeze! what are we, ghosts?
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kentn
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response 120 of 334:
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Nov 22 16:37 UTC 2010 |
Boo! :)
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kentn
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response 121 of 334:
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Nov 23 04:01 UTC 2010 |
Anywho, as I've been ranting about for the last several months, we need
to be more responsive and get things fixed. Maybe it's a bit of the
broken window theory of community, but when there too many indications
that no one is minding the store, so to speak, it does look like the
place is dead. The lights are on but no one is home. It doesn't need
to be that way and there's no time like the present to start fixing
things that are broken or just plain inaccurate. But it takes effort
and time and cooperation, three quantities that are always in short
supply, it seems. I'm glad to see ideas such as those veek has entered.
Now if we could get that "Get a Free Account" link to go to Grex...
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veek
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response 122 of 334:
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Nov 23 13:56 UTC 2010 |
[rit] psulliva nope.. i'm just learning stuff and it look like an
interesting project
[psulliva] ah
[psulliva] when did you get your account?
[rit] dunno a while back
[rit]
<no message sent>
[psulliva] i tried to create one a while back and i could never
get verified
[rit] heh, yeah they suck at verification
[rit] arbornet's not too bad at that.. cyberspace is the pits
[psulliva] yeah, thats a great way to get lots of users :/
[psulliva] i wanted the free php and sql
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veek
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response 123 of 334:
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Nov 23 13:56 UTC 2010 |
err i;m rit btw
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veek
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response 124 of 334:
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Nov 23 14:03 UTC 2010 |
[psulliva] yeah, arbornet's 'newuser' login doesnt work for creating
an account
[psulliva] frustrating trying to get into these services and
theres no way in, but theyre both pushing advert like mad
[psulliva] anycase, gotta run, be back in a bit
<psulliva@iceland goes AFK>
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kentn
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response 125 of 334:
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Nov 23 15:00 UTC 2010 |
The web newuser didn't work for me yesterday when I tried it (it thought
that tcsh and vi were invalid choices and that my proposed new userID
already existed although it did not appear to already exist). I've
notified staff with the specific error message, although I'm sure they
already know there are issues.
For those wishing to get an account on Grex, the command line newuser
program works. Login in as "newuser".
Unfortunately, the sign says "Open" but the front door is sometimes
jammed. That's not as welcoming as we need to be to attract new users
and members.
I **really** want to see this web newuser issue fixed ASAP.
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cross
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response 126 of 334:
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Nov 23 19:00 UTC 2010 |
Yes, that's something I've really got to get cracking on. :-/ I'll
see if I can look at it tonight.
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cross
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response 127 of 334:
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Nov 23 19:09 UTC 2010 |
I'm trying to look at this, but at the moment, it's blocked by the
government firewall I'm behind (no, really).
I think that encouraging people to come over from SDF is a great
idea. We really need to a) fix the web newuser interface, and b)
streamline the validation/verification process. Both tasks more or
less fall on me; both are just a Small Matter of Programming.
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kentn
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response 128 of 334:
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Nov 23 19:28 UTC 2010 |
Thanks, Dan. I hope you'll have a chance to look into this soon.
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richard
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response 129 of 334:
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Nov 23 21:05 UTC 2010 |
re #127 "streamline the validation/verification process"
Or better yet, do *away* with the validation/verification process. I
mean Grex survived more than a decade and a half without having to have
that and there's not that much traffic here anyway that it can really
be justified.
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cross
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response 130 of 334:
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Nov 23 22:40 UTC 2010 |
resp:129 That was a different time and we've seen that it doesn't work
anything.
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