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slynne
response 104 of 205: Mark Unseen   Jan 5 21:39 UTC 2003

I have been using my bread machine a lot since I got it. My whole wheat 
bread keeps coming out funny though. I mean it looks funny but it 
tastes ok so that is what is important. I have been experimenting with 
adjusting the recipe. I have found that the 1 lb loaf suits my needs 
best. 
keesan
response 105 of 205: Mark Unseen   Jan 5 22:18 UTC 2003

What kind of funny?  Does it maybe rise and then fall again, making the 
top look sort of depressed?
mary
response 106 of 205: Mark Unseen   Jan 5 22:37 UTC 2003

I remember wheat bread as being difficult.  No matter 
what I did it was always a bit dense and gummy.  Then
I bought some gluten and started adding a teaspoon or two
for each loaf.  What a difference.  I purchased it at
Fireside, in Ann Arbor, but they're gone now.  Maybe 
the Ypsi food co-op would carry it?  
jmsaul
response 107 of 205: Mark Unseen   Jan 5 23:16 UTC 2003

You can get it at Hiller's, too.
slynne
response 108 of 205: Mark Unseen   Jan 6 20:41 UTC 2003

re#105 - Yeah, that is exactly what is happening. The bread *tastes* 
great except that it is kind of dense. But that is ok. It is very 
filling which has helped me not eat bad things before lunch since a 
couple of slices of that for breakfast really keeps me full. I might 
try adding some gluten though. I mean, it cant hurt. Is it in the 
baking goods section at Hillers?
keesan
response 109 of 205: Mark Unseen   Jan 6 23:15 UTC 2003

Is there some way to set your machine for a longer rise (or for one long rise
instead of two short ones)?
davel
response 110 of 205: Mark Unseen   Jan 7 02:30 UTC 2003

Usually not, but it may depend on the machine.  Certainly some machines come
with various cycles, some of which have longer rise times.  Usually the
details are not documented.  (In fact, due to our Zojirushi's having died
after 7 years of heavy use, we opened the Wellbilt which we bought (around
1/2 price, when Best went out of business) to have as a backup.  Its
documentation of exactly how long each stage is in each possible cycle is very
complete; if there are temp differences they don't say, though.  The chart
is impressive & likely to be useful.)
keesan
response 111 of 205: Mark Unseen   Jan 7 02:41 UTC 2003

When did Best go out of business?
gelinas
response 112 of 205: Mark Unseen   Jan 7 03:46 UTC 2003

The one on Carpenter closed in . . . '92, I think it was.  Maybe earlier.
i
response 113 of 205: Mark Unseen   Jan 7 12:28 UTC 2003

Gluten's also available at By The Pound (S. Main Mkt.), probably People's
Food Coop (Kerrytown), and (guess) at most big supermarkets.
keesan
response 114 of 205: Mark Unseen   Jan 7 17:34 UTC 2003

There is a food coop in Ypsi, where Slynne lives.
I got my first fax machine at Best. It was a come-on special (for only $300,
took special half-size rolls that you had to roll yourself, and had no paper
feed or cutter) and they tried to talk me into something else.  I did not
realize I got it so long ago.  
glenda
response 115 of 205: Mark Unseen   Jan 7 18:41 UTC 2003

The Ann Arbor People's Food Coop doesn't carry gluten, we also got ours at
Fireside.  Whole Foods sometimes has it in 1/2 - 1 lb packages.
slynne
response 116 of 205: Mark Unseen   Jan 7 20:38 UTC 2003

Yeah, the Ypsi food coop is just a few blocks from my house and I am 
even a member and everything. I'll bet *they* have gluten. 

My bread machine will not allow for a longer rise. It isnt a big deal. 
I have found that if I make the 1 lb loaf, it comes out ok but a little 
over done. The solution might be to make the 1 lb loaf and then just 
take it out early. That works better for me anyway because the 1 1/2 lb 
loaf gets stale before I finish it. 
jaklumen
response 117 of 205: Mark Unseen   Jan 15 10:07 UTC 2004

I bought a griddle/grill for Julie at Christmas and we seem to use it 
all the time now.  It's one of those metal things that fits over the 
burners on your stove-- a griddle surface on one side, and a grill 
surface on the other.  It's not as great as an appliance; I have 
noticed that heating is a little uneven as it comes right from the 
stove coil burners.  Hotter in some places than others, I guess?  But 
we needed to save space and it works reasonably well.
eeyore
response 118 of 205: Mark Unseen   Feb 15 03:21 UTC 2004

You can get gluten from Buy The Pound on Main Street in Ann Arbor.

So I'm back working part time at Williams-Sonoma.....lots of toys there.  I
want them all.
denise
response 119 of 205: Mark Unseen   Nov 18 03:43 UTC 2006

Are there any new cool gadgets out there these days? 

There's been a lot of talk in this item about bread machines. Are people still
using them? 
keesan
response 120 of 205: Mark Unseen   Nov 18 16:19 UTC 2006

Jim uses his as an oven, after mixing the bread by hand.  The machines don't
deal well with sticky rye flour.  
cmcgee
response 121 of 205: Mark Unseen   Nov 18 17:38 UTC 2006

My bread machine makes great rye bread, but the recipe uses about half white
flour.  It makes WONDERFUl whole wheat, with nothing but whole wheat flour.

It's an old Toastmaster.  Don't think they make them anymore.
denise
response 122 of 205: Mark Unseen   Nov 18 23:02 UTC 2006

And those that have one, what's the difference in rice that is cooked in a
rice cooker vs making some on the stove?
mynxcat
response 123 of 205: Mark Unseen   Nov 18 23:31 UTC 2006

When I used a rice cooker I noticed no difference. Except that you
didn't have to watch it so it wouldn't get burnt. Apart from that, I
didn't notice any difference. 
cmcgee
response 124 of 205: Mark Unseen   Nov 19 02:35 UTC 2006

I've never noticed any difference either.  The main reason I don't use one
is that it is simple to use a saucepan.  If you put in any amount of rice,
and fill the pan until the water is 1 inch above the surface of the rice, you
can make perfect rice that doesn't burn.

Bring the rice and water to a hard boil, and boil until the water is reduced
to the level of the rice, usually 5 - 7 minutes.  Do not stir during this
process.  When the water is at the top of the rice, you will see small
"volcanos" forming.  

Turn off the electric burner or turn the gas burner down to the lowest
possible flame.  Put a close fitting lid on the pan.  Let the rice steam 15
- 20 minutes or longer.  After 15 minutes you can turn off the flame, and the
rice will remain hot for another half an hour or so.
denise
response 125 of 205: Mark Unseen   Nov 19 03:38 UTC 2006

Hmm, ok... And thanks for the instructions.  I have a SIL [who is Japanese]
who, I think] still has a rice cooker.  They eat a lot of rice. I did like
the rice I had over there awhile back [I think it was the 'sticky' rice with
a bit of seasoning added to it.] What's added, does anyone know, to make
sticky rice? Though I'm sure I can find out from Kazuko or Mike next time I
see them.
cmcgee
response 126 of 205: Mark Unseen   Nov 19 15:35 UTC 2006

Actually, it is more likely to be the type of rice you buy.  Sticky rice,
brown rice, white rice, sushi rice, these are all varieties of rice that give
different dishes.
Sushi rice will also have a vinegar dressing on it.

BTW, the method above came from my childhood, when the lady from Osaka who
lived next door to us in Hawaii taught my mother to make Japanese rice.  My
mother was a southerner who traditionally put sugar and milk on rice for a
breakfast dish.
keesan
response 127 of 205: Mark Unseen   Nov 19 16:03 UTC 2006

Rice cookers work by being leaky and losing most of the water as steam.  When
enough water has left, the temperature rises and they shut off.  This wastes
a lot of energy as well as steaming up the kitchen.  I think you need to put
in at least two cups of water per cup of rice.  We use a pressure cooker with
1 1/3 cups of water per cup of rice, which heats up quickly to 15 lb pressure,
then you turn it off and wait 5-10 minutes for it to finish cooking as it
cools down (for brown rice, which would otherwise take 45 minutes).  We tried
a microwave pressure cooker but that was slower and quite small.  There is
short, long, and medium grain white and brown rice, and white or brown sticky
(glutinous) rice.  Sushi used to be fermented rice, now it is imitated with
vinegar (like vinegar pickles instead of salt pickles).
glenda
response 128 of 205: Mark Unseen   Nov 19 23:00 UTC 2006

My rice cooker does not steam up my kitchen.  We like it.  Using it means that
a burner (and pan, pans seem to be a limited resource for some reason) is not
being taken up by the rice and can be used for another dish.  It keeps the
rice warm longer than the pan method which is useful when we have varied
schedules.  It means no more burned rice.  Damon does most of the cooking
since I am either covering or taking evening classes and STeve often doesn't
get home until quite late.  Damon has a tendancy to game while cooking, hence
he often forgets to check on things.  If we use the rice cooker and he burns
the chicken or pork chops and veggies, we can at least have buttered rice or
the above mentioned with milk, sugar, cinnamon, and nutmeg. 

Our rice cooker can also do slow cooked soups and stews.
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