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dbratman
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response 103 of 163:
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Feb 25 07:21 UTC 2003 |
More campus news, not exactly music but certainly appropriate -
Stanford's on-campus video rental store is closing down. So many
students own DVDs now, informal lending among them is so high, and
they're so easy to rip and burn copies of - seniors report a complete
change from when they were freshmen - that the video store is obsolete.
Not being plugged into the student trading market, and having
absolutely no patience (or bandwidth) for online downloading, I wonder
how I'll see movies at home if rental outlets continue to disappear.
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mcnally
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response 104 of 163:
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Feb 25 08:11 UTC 2003 |
> and [DVDs are] so easy to rip and burn copies of
they are?
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keesan
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response 105 of 163:
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Feb 25 14:25 UTC 2003 |
I thought it was fairly easy to copy a video casette. Maybe the students are
just so rich now that they are all buying their movies instead of renting.
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goose
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response 106 of 163:
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Feb 25 15:03 UTC 2003 |
RE#104 - Yeah.
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slynne
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response 107 of 163:
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Feb 25 17:07 UTC 2003 |
I know that I buy DVD's used from the video store with the intention of
lending them to lots of people. It is much cheaper than renting movie
plus one doesnt have the hassle of returning the things.
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mcnally
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response 108 of 163:
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Feb 25 18:28 UTC 2003 |
re #106: the grocery store a few blocks from my house rents DVDs for
$0.79 during the week (Monday through Thursday nights.) If I'm looking
for something a little less mainstream than their selection, I can find
it for at most $3.00 at a full-service video store. Considering the
cost of blank DVDs I just can't imagine that it's cheaper and/or easier
for students to copy them than to rent them.
Even if we're talking about not fully duplicating the DVD but just
swapping a lower-quality video encoded as, say, DIVX, I still find it
hard to believe that finding and downloading a full-length film on the
Internet is easier and cheaper than renting it at a nearby video store
unless the person doing this places no dollar value on their free time.
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jmsaul
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response 109 of 163:
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Feb 25 18:31 UTC 2003 |
Videotapes were really easy to copy too. Weird.
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gull
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response 110 of 163:
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Feb 25 21:09 UTC 2003 |
Videotapes were time-consuming to copy, though, and once you were done you
couldn't use your copy to give someone else a copy without serious quality
problems.
I suspect that what's happened is all the DVDs on in the on-campus video
store have become avaliable as DIVX files on the campus LAN. A trip around
Michigan Tech's LAN with Network Neighborhood would net you all kinds of
audio and video files while I was there, and that was a couple years ago.
I'm sure the selection has only gotten bigger since then.
I'm reminded of a friend of mine who joked that he was doing Blockbuster a
service by making off-site backups of all their Playstation games. ;)
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russ
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response 111 of 163:
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Feb 25 22:57 UTC 2003 |
Re #102: Ah, yes. "Established formulas", indeed. Perhaps it's
time to recognize that the formulaic approach makes lousy music
more often than not, and try to make better music? Ars gratia
artis, and all that.
Apparently, at least one of the satellite radio outfits has
recognized that musicians give tribute to the best of their
own, and has set up a channel of music that musicians listen to.
I doubt that Madonna will get played there; I know NSync won't.
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krj
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response 112 of 163:
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Feb 26 05:27 UTC 2003 |
USA Today has a puff piece on the Rhapsody authorized download
service. It includes some customer numbers on the major
authorized services:
"Sony and Universal's Pressplay, and Rhapsody, have about 50,000
subscribers each, and MusicNet, owned by Warner, EMI and BMG Music,
has 10,000, says Phil Leigh of research firm Raymond James.
The numbers are low, he says, because few people are aware of
paid alternatives to pirate swap sites.
"That could change Wednesday, when a revamped MusicNet will
be launched on America Online and marketed to its 35 million
members..." ((most of whom still use dialups -- KRJ))
http://www.usatoday.com/life/2003-02-25-rhapsody_x.htm
Also widely reported is that Roxio (the makers of Easy CD Creator)
are planning to relaunch the Napster brand as an authorized pay
download site later this year. The business plan, from one of
the stories I read, seems to be depend on the courts killing
Kazaa; they realize that selling downloads will be tough while
free ones are used by millions. (But killing Kazaa is going to
take years of international legislation. And then there's
Gnutella, and eDonkey, and heaven knows what else...)
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gull
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response 113 of 163:
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Feb 26 14:37 UTC 2003 |
From what I've heard, a big problem with the legal download sites is
that their catalogs of available songs are pretty small compared to the
illegal sites. If you aren't offering what people want to buy, you're
not going to win them over.
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krj
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response 114 of 163:
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Feb 26 21:31 UTC 2003 |
From Declan McCullagh on Cnet: A congressional committee calls for
file sharing at Universities to be treated as a serious Federal
crime. (It is already defined as such under the NET act, which
nobody seems to want to use to prosecute users, as the law is
intended.) One congressman makes an analogy to assault and murder.
The general demand is that the Universities stop their students from
running file sharing.
http://news.com.com/2100-1028-986143.html?tag=fd_top
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jmsaul
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response 115 of 163:
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Feb 26 21:34 UTC 2003 |
That's almost impossible, once the students figure out what's happening.
Some people have no perspective.
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mcnally
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response 116 of 163:
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Feb 27 00:24 UTC 2003 |
Just wait until the "assault and murder" P2P clients are released and
then we'll really see some legislative panic!
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other
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response 117 of 163:
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Feb 27 00:28 UTC 2003 |
Did someone cry Wolf? Or was it "the sky is falling?" it all sounds the
same anymore...
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gull
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response 118 of 163:
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Feb 27 00:43 UTC 2003 |
I wonder if Congressmen have any idea of the technical challenges
involved. Attempts to block instant messenging in corporate
environments are instructive -- they've merely resulted in instant
messaging clients that create network traffic that looks very much like
web browsing, to firewalls.
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polygon
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response 119 of 163:
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Feb 28 04:28 UTC 2003 |
Re 117. From the perspective of the pop music world, the sky IS falling.
Not that it bothers me any.
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krj
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response 120 of 163:
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Mar 1 15:50 UTC 2003 |
Here's a fun new essay, from a print media guy's perspective, about
the reactions of the music and movie business in the face of the
Internet driving the value of *all* media towards zero.
http://www.newyorkmetro.com/nymetro/news/media/columns/medialife/n_8384/ind
ex.html
"Stop, Thief!" by Michael Wolff
"For one thing, it is very strange to have entertainment executives--
generally regarded as among the most amoral, conniving and venal
of all businessmen -- taking the high ground. And yet here they are
delivering heartfelt defenses of artists, and even art itself--they
see the very essend of the nation's cultural patrimony at risk.
And you really don't sense a phony or opportunistic note.
Rather these guys actually seem to be losing sleep over this.
It's right and wrong they're arguing about here. Good character
versus a virtual barbarian deluge. They believe, with feeling,
that bad or sadly misguided people do this digital pilfering...
"The other odd thing is that these guys who have built their careers
and their industry on trying to give an audience exactly what it
wants -- no matter how low and valueless and embarrassing -- are
now standing with a high-church rectitude against the meretricious
desires of this same group. It is a bizarrely out-of-character
role: holding the line. Censuring the public. *Suing* the public!
Indeed, branding the great American mass-media audience as a
craven and outlaw group."
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"...*everybody* can't be an outlaw. If everybody does it, it's
normal rather than aberrant behavior. It's not so much the consumer
who is on the wrong side of the law, but the entertainment industry
that's on the wrong side of economic laws."
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goose
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response 121 of 163:
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Mar 4 14:05 UTC 2003 |
RE#118 -- Are corporate environments trying to squash IMs? We view it
as "critical infrastructure" to quote my boss. It's a great tool.
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gull
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response 122 of 163:
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Mar 4 14:31 UTC 2003 |
Some are. We haven't tried, for the most part, where I work. Some
places view it as either a major time-waster, or as a threat to
security. Not only have many IM packages turned out to have significant
security holes, IM traffic is much harder to log than email. That can
lead to legal exposures or risks of people leaking trade secrets undetected.
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jaklumen
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response 123 of 163:
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Mar 5 01:20 UTC 2003 |
I know Trillian, as a multi-user IM client, has an option to log
conversations. I know nothing about the programming involved, but
even if it's harder, I suppose it may still be theoretically possible.
If security programs can currently log keystrokes entered on a
machine, why not this? (This is not a rhetorical question, I'm
honestly listening.)
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other
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response 124 of 163:
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Mar 5 01:34 UTC 2003 |
Keystroke loggers do not discriminate. Logging everything is more
insecure than not logging important conversations. Besides, a keystroke
logger will only record the outgoing half of the conversation.
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mdw
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response 125 of 163:
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Mar 6 00:06 UTC 2003 |
It depends on how much authentication and encryption IM does. If IM
used Diffie-Hellman, for instance, then without getting a copy of the
private key used at one end, there won't be any way to recover the
shared secret and decrypt whatever is protected using it. If you can
install software on the client machine, instead of a keyboard log, you
might instead want to log all screen updates done by the IM client. Of
course, if you want to search the text, depending on where you hook into
the graphics subsystem, you might have to do character recognition of
bitmapped graphics.
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gull
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response 126 of 163:
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Mar 6 15:26 UTC 2003 |
Are there any current IM clients that actually do encryption? I thought
they were mostly using plaintext.
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goose
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response 127 of 163:
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Mar 7 16:32 UTC 2003 |
A quick Google shows that VeriSign and AOL are or were working on an encrypted
IM client. and I see a news report from April 2001 reporting on Novell and
Mercury Prime(?) making encrypted IM clients..
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