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happyboy
response 103 of 218: Mark Unseen   Feb 17 17:00 UTC 2006

he was drunk!
mary
response 104 of 218: Mark Unseen   Feb 17 17:08 UTC 2006

Of course this was an accident.  Duh.  And it can happen to even excellent 
hunters, who aren't drinking, are generally thought of as nice people.

I'm sorry this happened as it's seems to be distracting a whole lot of 
people from real issues.
edina
response 105 of 218: Mark Unseen   Feb 17 17:12 UTC 2006

Mary!!!  How dare you be a voice of reason!!!!
happyboy
response 106 of 218: Mark Unseen   Feb 17 17:24 UTC 2006

mary is drunk too hide the shotgun remmers!!!
nharmon
response 107 of 218: Mark Unseen   Feb 17 17:27 UTC 2006

I would just like to point out that the idea that this was "just an
accident" and that accidents like these go with the territory of bird
hunting is bullshit. I would also like to add that it is interesting how
the Whitehouse is blaming the victim, and shucking responsibility off of
Cheney. Fucking pricks. I bet the gun-control groups are sucking this up
too, after all it is their position that nobody can be trusted with guns.

But, I do find some solace in that the NRA is not playing the political
hypocricy game that the Whitehouse seems to be doing.

http://www.philly.com/mld/philly/13865078.htm:

  "The National Rifle Association places the onus of responsibility on 
  the person pulling the trigger rather than the recipient of the 
  gunshot.

  "If that was just a regular Joe Blow, they'd say it was carelessness," 
  said Peggy Bodner, executive vice president of the Association of New 
  Jersey Rifle and Pistol Clubs, an affiliate of the NRA.

  Bodner compared an unintentional shooting to a motorist who rear-ends 
  another car. "It's like if you were in a car and struck somebody from 
  behind," she said. "Even if the other person stopped short, it's your 
  fault."

  Bird hunters work under challenging circumstances that require strict 
  adherence to rules to prevent errant fire. Birds flushed from the 
  underbrush take flight suddenly, and hunters must swing their guns and 
  fire in a split second. The typical protocol requires hunters to stay 
  abreast of one another and to fire only in a prescribed range ahead of 
  the line. If a bird leaves the agreed "field of fire," a responsible 
  hunter must let the bird escape."

I think the NRA should donate Cheney a voucher for a free hunters'
safety class.
marcvh
response 108 of 218: Mark Unseen   Feb 17 17:35 UTC 2006

I wonder if he will be invited to speak at their next annual meeting (again)?
happyboy
response 109 of 218: Mark Unseen   Feb 17 17:35 UTC 2006

the main witness was 100 years away
and her version differs from cheney's

get your stories straight!
happyboy
response 110 of 218: Mark Unseen   Feb 17 17:36 UTC 2006

er...100 yards away i meant
tod
response 111 of 218: Mark Unseen   Feb 17 17:50 UTC 2006

Cheney didn't need a field of fire.  He's a WAR vice PRESIDENT!  With
CO-PRESIDENT powers!
richard
response 112 of 218: Mark Unseen   Feb 17 22:47 UTC 2006

cheney probably wishes that if he had to shoot someone, it could have been
scooter libby
tod
response 113 of 218: Mark Unseen   Feb 17 22:49 UTC 2006

Cheney should be impeached on this, should he not?  He refuses to discuss it
at all with the public.
nharmon
response 114 of 218: Mark Unseen   Feb 17 23:22 UTC 2006

Impeached? No.
tod
response 115 of 218: Mark Unseen   Feb 17 23:42 UTC 2006

re #114
I'm referring to the Scooter Libby involvement/authorization toward Plame's
exposure.
bru
response 116 of 218: Mark Unseen   Feb 18 00:02 UTC 2006

ince again you see the liberal left trying to taint the situation.
cyklone
response 117 of 218: Mark Unseen   Feb 18 00:10 UTC 2006

How exactly do you taint lying about an important matter?
tod
response 118 of 218: Mark Unseen   Feb 18 00:12 UTC 2006

Explain the situation, Bruce. You mean the War on tERROR?

The White House said on October 29, 2003 that it had helped with the
production of a 'Mission Accomplished' banner as a backdrop for President
George W. Bush's speech onboard the USS Abraham Lincoln to declare combat
operations over in Iraq.  Asked if Bush had misled people by appearing in
front of the banner, McClellan said "the Navy put it up and it was the Navy
at the -- asked us to take care of the production of the banner. And we said
that yesterday."

This Administration has no accountability for any of its actions that involve
harming US citizens.  We get dragged into these wars on hearsay and
cherrypicked intelligence.  Then, lemmings like Bruce call all dissenters
"liberal left".  I guarantee my lifestyle is more conservative than Bruce's.
The big difference here is that I'm willing to engage political topics that
question the integrity and accountability of our elected officials.  Rather
than ever getting a decent rebuttal based on countering data, all I get is
"left wing" "liberal media" "enemy of freedom" "hate america" playground 2nd
grader dismissals.  

Right now, Scooter Libby is requesting a year's worth of classified info in
order to distort the prosecution by forcing a lengthy censorship of sensitive
information.  Cheney leaves his buddy Libby out to dry and keeps his mouth
slammed shut.  This Scooter guy that backstabs the CIA claims he was under
orders -- Dick Cheney is obviously whom he refers.  
marcvh
response 119 of 218: Mark Unseen   Feb 18 00:13 UTC 2006

You rub it against the section of skin between your scrotum and your anus.
nharmon
response 120 of 218: Mark Unseen   Feb 18 00:32 UTC 2006

I remember the "Mission Accomplished" banner, and always thought it
symbolized that the Carrier's mission was accomplished as it was on its
way home.
tod
response 121 of 218: Mark Unseen   Feb 18 01:02 UTC 2006

The White House was very clear when it states ALL MAJOR combat operations were
over in Iraq.  It was not about the Lincoln's job there but about the War on
tERROR.
cyklone
response 122 of 218: Mark Unseen   Feb 18 04:16 UTC 2006

Re #120: I hope that was an attempt at humor.
nharmon
response 123 of 218: Mark Unseen   Feb 18 15:00 UTC 2006

It was not humor. But this is:  http://dickhunt.ytmnd.com/
cyklone
response 124 of 218: Mark Unseen   Feb 18 21:41 UTC 2006

I daresay you were in an extreme minority with your interpretation of "Mission
Accomplished" then. It certainly doesn't jibe with what Curious George said
in his speech, and the hard-core Bush voter I watched it with didn't see it
your way either.
marcvh
response 125 of 218: Mark Unseen   Feb 18 22:17 UTC 2006

It jibes perfectly with the revisionist spin that was put out as a talking
point once it became abundantly clear that the mission wasn't accomplished.
nharmon
response 126 of 218: Mark Unseen   Feb 18 22:44 UTC 2006

Well, I understand that my initial interpretation was incorrect.
tod
response 127 of 218: Mark Unseen   Feb 18 23:01 UTC 2006

Let's talk about Nigeria(Lagos) and Venezuela cutting Shell's nuts off.
Is it because of oil depletion or is Team Evil Axis recruiting for the big
ass kicking of the USA economy?
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