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jaklumen
response 103 of 115: Mark Unseen   Jun 25 03:52 UTC 2003

Speak for yourself, Greggo.
phenix
response 104 of 115: Mark Unseen   Jun 25 13:19 UTC 2003

hey, i've run cons i feel that i have an objective idea of the sanity of the
gaming public
jazz
response 105 of 115: Mark Unseen   Jun 25 13:53 UTC 2003

        You've run conventions before?

        Liking Star Trek doesn't make you a dork, but there are enough Star
Trek dorks that it's a good sign ... and I like Star Trek, at least DS9.  The
same goes for gaming.
jmsaul
response 106 of 115: Mark Unseen   Jun 25 14:27 UTC 2003

Nah.  There are dorky gamers, and there are non-dorky gamers,  The dorks are
just more obvious.

Re #104:  Which cons have you run?
jazz
response 107 of 115: Mark Unseen   Jun 25 17:36 UTC 2003

        I'm agreeing with you there.  But if you hear Joe Blow is a gamer, then
it's much more likely that he'll be a dork than if his hobby is, say,
parasailing.
jaklumen
response 108 of 115: Mark Unseen   Jun 26 02:04 UTC 2003

It depends on how you look at it.  I'm not a narrow-genre gamer, i.e. 
I don't focus on just one aspect.  I do all of it, board games, table 
top, LARP, arcade/console/PC games, and I enjoy Scottish 
games/festivals.

I've also made a habit of trying to do a little bit of various things 
at a gaming con.  We watched a little anime, did some tabletop, 
danced, schmoozed, and participated in some panels at Radcon 
(www.radcon.org).  Julie and I took Sarah, our 13 mo. old and did just 
fine-- hard to be an utter dork when you're as a family, at least 
outside family definitions.

Besides, I don't game for the games alone.  I game for the people.  
There's nothing more miserable than gaming with folks who are 
*totally* socially inept and cantankerous.  I will overlook faults in 
the spirit of having a good time and in the fact that I accept that 
many gamers have issues, especially LARPers.  It comes with the 
territory.

I am also one of those people who has OTHER hobbies besides gaming.  I 
was a musician long before I adopted gaming, and I am pursuing guitar 
lessons.  I figure I will be doing good once I find out about the 
guitar society and start playing with an ensemble again.  I also grow 
my own peppermint-- although hardly a real hobby, I suppose, it is 
nice to have my own looseleaf tea.  I plan to get those fancy teapots 
from Target that brew a proper pot of tea and will look into expanding 
into growing other herbs.  We must grow them in the windowsill as we 
have no garden space.

Besides, I'm also on Grex on a variety of conferences, so how could I 
be gaming all the time?
dcat
response 109 of 115: Mark Unseen   Jun 26 05:25 UTC 2003

Laptop + WiFi ? ;-)
jmsaul
response 110 of 115: Mark Unseen   Jun 26 13:00 UTC 2003

Re #107:  Certain hobbies, like parasailing, make it very unlikely that the
          person is a dork.   (They may be an asshole...  ;-)

Re #108:  Yes, you can be a family and still be dorks.  Trust me. 
jazz
response 111 of 115: Mark Unseen   Jun 26 14:02 UTC 2003

        Joe, you're maintaining that there's no correlation between gaming and
dorkdom? 
jmsaul
response 112 of 115: Mark Unseen   Jun 27 13:43 UTC 2003

I'm maintaining that the correlation isn't as high as it may appear.  The
dorks are a lot more visible, while you may not even know that the non-dorks 
are gamers.

(As a side note, I have a friend who games and does parasailing.  ;-)
phenix
response 113 of 115: Mark Unseen   Jun 28 14:16 UTC 2003

let's see, i was on staff of u*con '95
and recently i ran gaming for conclaive '02
now dork is differnt' from insane. i'm merly talking about having highly
irrational beliefs not being totally socially inept (though, there are alot of
gamers with low  social skillz) (side note: it's fun to watch them larp with
socially well adjusted girls. behold the power of boobs)
jmsaul
response 114 of 115: Mark Unseen   Jun 28 15:15 UTC 2003

I've met a number of gamers who are socially inept, but I've met very few with
highly irrational beliefs.
orinoco
response 115 of 115: Mark Unseen   Jun 28 16:36 UTC 2003

Irrational _ideas,_ yes.  Irrational _beliefs,_ no.  Most of the gamers I've
met have had a pretty good grip on the line between fantasy and reality when
they've needed to.  I guess that's what comes from spending a lot of your free
time fiddling around with that line.
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