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happyboy
response 101 of 186: Mark Unseen   Jan 24 03:14 UTC 2006

the moderates like him ok, not so the wingnuts who are in 
power, so yeah.
tod
response 102 of 186: Mark Unseen   Jan 24 07:41 UTC 2006

re #99
I dont think the good ol boys have the guts to put Condi out there.
happyboy
response 103 of 186: Mark Unseen   Jan 24 09:13 UTC 2006

"she may be a nigra, but she's OWR nigra!"

        --trent lott
tod
response 104 of 186: Mark Unseen   Jan 24 18:02 UTC 2006

"We's gots us a token prezdunt"
gull
response 105 of 186: Mark Unseen   Jan 24 19:10 UTC 2006

Re resp:99: I don't think Condi has a chance of getting the nomination.  
I'm pretty sure she's on the record of being pro-choice, so she fails 
the single most important litmus test. 
gull
response 106 of 186: Mark Unseen   Jan 24 19:10 UTC 2006

On the record *as* being pro-choice, that is. 
klg
response 107 of 186: Mark Unseen   Jan 24 20:10 UTC 2006

   Miss Rice: I believe if you go back to 2000, when I helped the 
president in the campaign, I said that I was, in effect, kind of 
Libertarian on this issue, and meaning by that that I have been 
concerned about a government role in this issue. I'm a strong proponent 
of parental choice, of parental notification. I'm a strong proponent of 
a ban on late-term abortion. These are all things that I think unite 
people and I think that that's where we should be. I've called myself 
at times mildly pro-choice. 
    Mr. Sammon: That was the phrase that kept coming up. 
    Miss Rice: Yeah, mildly pro-choice. That's what that means. I think 
that there are a lot of things that we can unite around, and that's 
where I would tend to be. I'm very comfortable with the president's 
view that we have to respect and need to have a culture that respects 
life. This should be an issue pretty infrequently because we ought to 
have a culture that says that, "Who wants to have an abortion? Who 
wants to see a daughter or a friend or, you know, a sibling go through 
something like that?" And so I believe the president has been in 
exactly the right place about this, which is, we have to respect the 
culture of life and we have to try and bring people to have respect for 
it and make this as rare a circumstance as possible. 
    Mr. Sammon: The only reason I even brought it up was because there 
is a school of thought that says that no conservative Republican can be 
elected president if they are not firmly pro-life. I know you haven't 
ruled anything in or out but... 
    Miss Rice: I'm not trying to be elected. 
    Mr. Sammon: But it sounds like you do not wish to change the laws 
that now allow ... 
    Miss Rice: Well, I don't spend my entire life thinking about these 
issues. You know, I spend my time really thinking about the foreign 
policy issues. But you know that I'm a deeply religious person and so, 
from my point of view, these extremely difficult moral issues where we 
have   where we're facing issues with technology and the prolongation 
of life and the fact that very, very young babies are able to survive 
now   very small babies are able to survive   these are great moral 
issues. 
    What I do think is that we should not have the federal government 
in a position where it is forcing its views on one side or the other. 
So, for instance, I've tended to agree with those who do not favor 
federal funding for abortion, because I believe that those who hold a 
strong moral view on the other side should not be forced to fund it. 
tod
response 108 of 186: Mark Unseen   Jan 24 20:15 UTC 2006

I wonder how she feels about the White House xmas tree lighting ceremony and
if those of us with strong moral views against church/state should not have
to fund that as well?
marcvh
response 109 of 186: Mark Unseen   Jan 24 20:42 UTC 2006

It's hard to imagine the GOP faithful being OK with her as a candidate.
The usual source of candidates would be successful GOP governors.
There are 2 Republican governors who have some degree of national name
recognition, but one is constitutionally ineligible and neither is
particularly anti-abortion.
mcnally
response 110 of 186: Mark Unseen   Jan 24 20:45 UTC 2006

re #109:  Jeb in 2008?  <shudder>
marcvh
response 111 of 186: Mark Unseen   Jan 24 20:53 UTC 2006

Wasn't thinking of him (the other one on my mind was Pataki) but he's
certainly another one most people have heard of.
tod
response 112 of 186: Mark Unseen   Jan 24 21:08 UTC 2006

President Edgar Stiles in 2008
klg
response 113 of 186: Mark Unseen   Jan 25 02:23 UTC 2006

Mitt Romney!
gull
response 114 of 186: Mark Unseen   Jan 25 03:16 UTC 2006

Re resp:108: Yeah, I can think of lots of stuff I have moral issues 
with funding.  NSA wiretapping, for example.  Why is it only abortion 
where people get to argue they should be able to pick and choose? 
bru
response 115 of 186: Mark Unseen   Jan 25 05:52 UTC 2006

I could support Condi for President.
I could support Jeb Bush for President.
I could support Pataki for president.
I could support Newt Gingrich for president.

All of them are good choices.

What we have a problem with the Court nomination proceedure is that the 
liberals have totaly lost sight of what their role is.  Their job is to 
vet the person chosen by the president and make sure he is fit to hold 
that position.  

They are not supposed to look at his personal views on any subject 
other than to get a feel for him as a person.  When Ginsberg was 
nominated, even thought she was a staunch supporter of Roe v. Wade, the 
republicans voted witht eh dems to confirm her unanimously.  Why?  
Because she was a good choice for the position.

Same with Alito.  The man has the highest recomendations from his 
peers, but the dems are looking to get a solid vote against him based 
on his personal beliefs, not his skill on the bench.

Disgusting.
rcurl
response 116 of 186: Mark Unseen   Jan 25 06:20 UTC 2006

You can say all that because you think that Alito is "your man" on  abortion,
gay marriage, executive power, etc. 
marcvh
response 117 of 186: Mark Unseen   Jan 25 07:04 UTC 2006

As usual, bru is wrong on his facts.  The senate did not vote unanimously to 
confirm Ginsberg.
klg
response 118 of 186: Mark Unseen   Jan 25 11:49 UTC 2006

Who were the 3 against?
johnnie
response 119 of 186: Mark Unseen   Jan 25 14:13 UTC 2006

>Alito...has the highest recomendations from his peers, but the dems are
>looking to get a solid vote against him based on his personal beliefs...
>Disgusting.

So when President Hillary has a vacancy to fill due to the resignation
of, say, Justice Thomas, and she nominates a highly intelligent and
experienced jurist who is so personally liberal as to make Michael Moore
look like a goddamn JohnBircher, you'll argue that Republicans should
absolutely vote to confirm, yes?
slynne
response 120 of 186: Mark Unseen   Jan 25 14:34 UTC 2006

Oh come on. He'll argue that Republicans should NOT confirm but based 
on the person's skills on the bench. EVERYONE knows that being liberal 
is a symptom of not having skills on the bench. ;) 
twenex
response 121 of 186: Mark Unseen   Jan 25 15:32 UTC 2006

Well of course. Naturally. As a law of physics. Etc.
albaugh
response 122 of 186: Mark Unseen   Jan 25 20:38 UTC 2006

I believe I saw a news report that "the committee" (?) had voted 10-8 to
recommend Alito's nomination.
jadecat
response 123 of 186: Mark Unseen   Jan 25 20:38 UTC 2006

The Judiciary Committee perchance? Yeah, all the Dems voted no.
marcvh
response 124 of 186: Mark Unseen   Jan 25 21:35 UTC 2006

Most of them will vote no on the floor as well.  A few GOP senators (including
Stevens, oddly enough) haven't committed yet.
bhelliom
response 125 of 186: Mark Unseen   Jan 26 05:08 UTC 2006

resp:102 If she does run, I have no problem voting against her.
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