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bap
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response 100 of 133:
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Nov 29 15:02 UTC 1993 |
But they were the largest grossing rock band on tour last year with income
of almost $50 million.
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tnt
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response 101 of 133:
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Nov 30 03:39 UTC 1993 |
Jerry supposedly stopping doing acid.
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zaphod
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response 102 of 133:
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Dec 1 04:57 UTC 1993 |
Well, hmmm. Never thought of the Dead as being 'hard rock'.
And also, while I'm at it, there is quite a bit of talent to be
heard in the music of both Fugazi and the former Minor Threat.
Listen closely to a Fugazi album, you'll hear some interesting
tri-tones, some extremely syncopated rythms, a lot of the stuff
you'd hear in some jazz. (Maybe sixteen years as a musician has tainted my
opinions, but I can find values in just about every kind of music.) :^)
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dana
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response 103 of 133:
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Dec 6 06:02 UTC 1993 |
When I listen to the Grate Dead, the music reminds me more
of blues. I can even understand the lyrics.
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srw
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response 104 of 133:
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Dec 6 06:23 UTC 1993 |
Yes, I was confused. It is no longer necessary to explain that they
have no relationship to hard rock.
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skeez
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response 105 of 133:
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Dec 12 14:06 UTC 1993 |
The way I see it, and I *have* and *do* listen to this stuff, unlike alot of
the people taking part in this discussion. Alot of you have gotten an opinion
of rap that is very biased. Very. You've seen the headlines. You have a
fraction of knowledge about it. You know a couple of the artists, and you
throw their names around. Like Hoolie, and "The P is still free". Little do you
know, KRS One <The artist> Has done alot of different, better stuff than that
song. Power also talks about "Hardcore" rap. The artists you guys have
mentioned, are all Gangsta rappers. Hardcore is Public Enemy. They are the
smartest, most concrete, knowledgable rappers there are. If you ever take yer
eyes offa this screen, fingers off the keyboard, and pick up the lyrics to A
Public Enemy album, and you are as smart as you all think you are, You will
realize these rappers have a point. Have a clear message. In their 1st album,
they degraded women in "Spohisticated Bitch", mentioned by Foolie. If you
listen to Foolie about rap, you will come out with the wrong opinion. As for
"Classic Rap".....The Sugarhill Gang, Grandmaster Flash, Schooly D, and Many
others would fit into this category. Dr. Dre and his stupid Chronic raps get
him fame now, with a bunch of 12 year old white kids. The people like me, who
know their rap, and don't just take any old crap that comes with a P-Funk laced
beat, and plenty of guns and bitches and drugs, and dis-respect that is only
found in Gangsta. I agree, Gangsta rap is stupidity, the majority of the time.
But you label RAP because of this. Do not.
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power
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response 106 of 133:
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Dec 13 01:13 UTC 1993 |
Actually, I kind of like Gangsta rap... it's quite amusing at times,
although I can get sick of it. I particularly like the NWA stuff, from
when they were still together...
But anyway, I was using the word 'hardcore' to refer to the seriousness/
whatever of the music, such as it is... seriousness isn't the word--
I guess specialization, or something? Public Enemy probably isn't the
best example of hardcore, by my definition, since, at least last I heard,
their audience was primary middle-class, white teenagers :)... although
I agree that they belong in it.
It's kind of like metal--I would classify Black Sabbath, Metallica, and
the Red Hot Chili Peppers as hard core, although they have completely
different sounds and roots (Black Sabbath=blues--especially their early
stuff, which is pretty much straight blues; Metallica=thrash-type stuff;
Red Hot Chili Peppers=funk, with maybe a bit of influence from rap)....
How is Public Enemy that different from NWA, or whatever? The topic is
slightly different, but is essentially the same theatrical thing (as is
present in a lot of rock/popular music), and when it comes down to it,
they are cashing in on the same thing--white fascination/fear of blacks
and black culture... I don't have any figures, but from personal
experience, I would guess that there are probably more white rap listeners
than black--there's a much larger white population, although a smaller
percentage of it may be into rap....
Anyway, my post is totally incoherent, so I think I'll stop babbling
now :)...
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tnt
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response 107 of 133:
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Dec 13 02:38 UTC 1993 |
WORD to ya mutha, LL-Cool-Skeeza-dog!
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aa8ij
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response 108 of 133:
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Dec 13 08:40 UTC 1993 |
Some gansta rappers are on trial for murder as in the case of Snoop-Doggy-
Dog.
You have to wonder what kind of image and example this sets.
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danr
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response 109 of 133:
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Dec 13 17:31 UTC 1993 |
This is not a flame against you, Jim, but I think people need to
worry more about the example they are setting than the example that
others set.
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power
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response 110 of 133:
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Dec 14 23:37 UTC 1993 |
I tend to agree with danr on this, but even if one should be worried
about the example of one's music, how do you feel about Michael Jackson?
He's now under some pretty extreme suspicion of child molesting, although
I don't believe he's been indicted yet. What kind of image and example
does this set for pop? Does this mean that one should avoid listening to
pop, or at least the music of Michael Jackson? I was never a huge
Michael Jackson fan, but the allegations that have been made against him
are not enough to make me stop listening to him, the little that I do.
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skeez
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response 111 of 133:
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Dec 15 01:42 UTC 1993 |
Re# 107 You're the only dog, great white.
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skeez
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response 112 of 133:
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Dec 16 03:07 UTC 1993 |
Re#106.....I said PE was hardcore, because of the music they do. It is.
The audience does Not determine the type of music a group doees, at least not
in this case. Many bands have sold out, changed teheirr "style" to suiit the
tastes of the popular music at that time. PE has not. They have maintained a
"Proo- Black" styling that Noone has duplicated successfully yett.
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arabella
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response 113 of 133:
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Dec 16 08:51 UTC 1993 |
This item is now linked as Item 82 in the music conference.
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aa8ij
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response 114 of 133:
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Dec 16 23:38 UTC 1993 |
I am not gonna stop listening to MJ. He has some fine records and duets
that I enjoy listening to, like his duet with Paul McCartney (The girl is
mine). Associating behavior with music is like saying "Everyone who listens
to Rap is a potential murderer, ala Snoop Doggy Dogg. Do you see where this
is headed?
I admit that I don't like rap that well, some rap tracks that I have are
funny, but I only play them once in a blue moon. I mostly listen to 50's
and 60's dinosaur rock.
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srw
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response 115 of 133:
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Dec 17 03:58 UTC 1993 |
I think that Dinosaur Rock is good stuff. 'Course I grew up with it.
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meg
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response 116 of 133:
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Dec 17 11:59 UTC 1993 |
The correct term is dinosaur THUD rock
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kami
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response 117 of 133:
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Dec 21 19:02 UTC 1993 |
re: 98-- Where I used to live there was a house with a wonderful garden.
Alongg the sidewalk the owner, an elderly man, had posted this sign :"Please no
hard, punk, acid rock. The flowers don't like it." I've never heard hard
acid rock, nor punk acid rock, etc. Not sure I want to...
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carson
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response 118 of 133:
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Dec 22 11:11 UTC 1993 |
re #105: I have to agree with skeez on the point that most of the debate on w
whether rap is music that will endure has been by people who don't know the
genre anymore than we really know what's going on in the world by picking up
a newspaper. We're not there, we don't know. BTW, I thought we had abandoned
this particular facet of debate as ad nauseum.
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zombie2
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response 119 of 133:
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Jun 20 18:52 UTC 1996 |
Personally, I think classical muusic will put you to SLEEP!!
It is boring long, and pointless..........
And as for the IQ issue, HA you people are full of poopoo.
NOte: this is my opinion........(if you lik it say so)
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rcurl
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response 120 of 133:
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Jun 20 21:16 UTC 1996 |
(I don't like it.)
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srw
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response 121 of 133:
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Jun 21 02:21 UTC 1996 |
(I don't like it either.)
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remmers
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response 122 of 133:
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Jun 21 12:22 UTC 1996 |
(I neither like it nor dislike it. But I do disagree with it.)
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rcurl
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response 123 of 133:
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Jun 21 20:20 UTC 1996 |
(I didn't think zombie2 would understand the distinction.)
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krj
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response 124 of 133:
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Jun 22 04:21 UTC 1996 |
When I was younger, I got exposed to classical music through two
main sources:
1) Walter (now Wendy) Carlos. I can sstill remember the first time
I heard SWITCHED-ON BACH on my father's stereo.
2) A recording of Tchaikovsky's 1812 OVERTURE with real cannons.
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