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mary
response 100 of 823: Mark Unseen   Apr 1 22:18 UTC 2002

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mary
response 101 of 823: Mark Unseen   Apr 1 22:30 UTC 2002

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morwen
response 102 of 823: Mark Unseen   Apr 1 23:43 UTC 2002

resp:93 resp:94 But, bhelliom Blue Rose knows that this is the item for
 seeming whiney.  That's why it is the Bummed Item.  

If it takes a while, try just posting one of them per day.  Or else 
just break down and mention 'em all.  
other
response 103 of 823: Mark Unseen   Apr 2 00:36 UTC 2002

Lynne, this is going to sound painfully obvious, but if you're having a 
problem with depression, you shouldn't be drinking alcohol.  It's like 
taking a spike in the head for a headache.
jep
response 104 of 823: Mark Unseen   Apr 2 15:19 UTC 2002

Lynne, I started taking Zoloft a few weeks ago for my depression.  I 
felt like you; "I sure hope this stuff kicks in fast because I can't 
take it any more".  It seemed to start helping some after a few days.  
The day I forgot to take it, I had a horrible "down" day.  Now, a 
couple of weeks later, I'm feeling a lot better than I was.  Help is on 
the way.  Give it a chance to get there.

You're doing the right things in going to therapy and getting medical 
help.  It'll help you.  It's helping me, anyway.
lynne
response 105 of 823: Mark Unseen   Apr 2 15:20 UTC 2002

True. Somehow, one small glass of white wine with dinner seemed a lot more
innocuous than it was.
My thanks to those that expressed concern.  I was a little distracted when
posting yesterday.
lynne
response 106 of 823: Mark Unseen   Apr 2 15:25 UTC 2002

jep slipped in...I've been following your reports on Zoloft, and was 
relatively pleased when the doctor suggested it, since it does seem to be
helping you a lot.
I'm feeling a little less psycho today, which is good because I think I can
make it through a day at work.  I'm a little concerned about the night.  I'll
find someone to stay with me (roomie did it last night, is busy tonight)
because I really don't want to have to spend the night in the infirmary.
jep
response 107 of 823: Mark Unseen   Apr 2 16:12 UTC 2002

It is a measure of how well the Zoloft is working (or something is 
working) that I'm able to respond about your problem at all.  A few 
weeks ago, I didn't have any ability to be much concerned about anyone 
else.  My own problems were overwhelming me.  Now, my problems are 
still serious, but I'm dealing with them to some extent.  I'm 
definitely better off now.  It's nice to be able to care about other 
people again.
anderyn
response 108 of 823: Mark Unseen   Apr 2 16:28 UTC 2002

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bhelliom
response 109 of 823: Mark Unseen   Apr 2 17:56 UTC 2002

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bhelliom
response 110 of 823: Mark Unseen   Apr 2 17:59 UTC 2002

You know you're depressed when thinking about the possibility of a 
friend moving about an hour away gives you the weepies for nearly two 
hours.

I don't know about any of you who are seeing or have seen therapists, 
but the process of finding one seems to be more difficult and 
frustrating than finding a good OB/GYN . ..  at least the women 
probably understand.

The whole process, depending on if you're at the mercy of your 
insurance company or not, can make you feel worse.  So I just recently 
decided that my health insurance company, which in other areas is very 
good, to--why mince words--fuck off, and have decided to find my own 
therapist outside the system.  At this juncture, it helps to have a 
friend that is a psychologist who can ask a colleague for 
recommendations. Certainly it's something I want to get a handle on 
before I do anything else major in my life. Call it an investment. 

RE # 102 yeah . . . I know that this is the item for that.  Still, I 
tend to have this fear of seeming two whiny or appearing to grab at 
attention.  I know people who in fact do that, and it's never very 
pretty an d always anoying to watch.  Hence my tendancy not to mention 
things that bother me if someone is discussing a problem, unless I'm 
sharing a similar experience.  But that all said and done, I'm not at 
all opposed to doing so when I feel comfortable doing it.

eskarina
response 111 of 823: Mark Unseen   Apr 2 18:52 UTC 2002

Yeah, I tried getting a therapist at the free student counseling place on
campus last semester.  It was the first time I'd ever done such a thing, and
I expected it to be a lot different than it was.

I started telling her about how when I get stressed I start self-destructing
and I wanted to find ways to stop and her reaction was pretty much "just stop
then".  She didn't offer much in the way of direct help... but the
conversations I had with my friends about how frustrated I was with her
reactions ended up proving way helpful.  I also didn't feel like she listened
to me, she mostly just talked.

I'm bummed because I'm starting to get buried in my schoolwork, and as luck
would have it, am swirling back into self-destruct mode.

"Just stop then", right?  grr.
oval
response 112 of 823: Mark Unseen   Apr 2 19:00 UTC 2002

i went to a therapist once for something like 3 sessions, and all she did was
ask to keep a dream journal and look at me like i was crazy when i'd talk to
her or read my dreams. it helped because i decided she was a bitch and i
was crazy only because i was paying her for this.

rcurl
response 113 of 823: Mark Unseen   Apr 2 19:14 UTC 2002

Pretty smart therapist....very effective, it seems. 

I think that their behavior like this is to avoid just telling you you
are crazy. 
oval
response 114 of 823: Mark Unseen   Apr 2 19:23 UTC 2002

i bet they get really sick of hearing peoples' shit all day.

although my dad's therapist is a paraplegic <--sp? and apparently very very
good. i imagine it's hard to whine about the little things to a man who can't
walk...

lynne
response 115 of 823: Mark Unseen   Apr 2 20:17 UTC 2002

I'm stuck in the MIT system because they're my health insurance.  Apparently
a couple of my friends have gone there and been helped, which is reassuring.
It's really sort of sick the way MIT brings out the insanity in everyone.  I
was thinking earlier about how nearly all of my close friends have been 
actively bitching or quietly very depressed about how unhappy they are out
here, especially in the past few weeks.  Possibly I'm a. very susceptible to
peer pressure or b. breaking under the strain of trying to make things 
better for everyone else.
I ran into Hector in the hall today.  I started crying after a relatively
casual comment--again.  He got very concerned about it, and said he's not
mad at me, he just hates it when I do things like I did on Friday night.
And that he's not going anywhere.  Of the available options, he is by far the
person I would most want around in a situation like this, and it means a lot
to me that he'll be there while I try to fix myself.  He'll be keeping me
company tonight to make sure I don't hurt myself.
eskarina
response 116 of 823: Mark Unseen   Apr 2 21:04 UTC 2002

I just went to the MSU thing because I didn't want to have to tell my parents
I was getting therapy.  I'm not sure if their health insurance would cover
that sort of thing or not.

Sucks to hear that about MIT.  What are you studying there?

i have a friend who is going to MIT next year, and now I'm scared for her.
jep
response 117 of 823: Mark Unseen   Apr 2 21:22 UTC 2002

re #110: My health insurance pays for a maximum of 20 visits, but might 
only cover 10 in my case.  If I still think I need therapy after they 
stop covering me, which I expect I will, I'll have to pay for it.  What 
the heck -- this is my life we're talking about.  I mean whether I live 
or die.  It's worth whatever money it costs.

I think I was pretty fortunate in that my 2nd therapist is being pretty 
helpful.  Maybe it's that anyone would have helped me; I was in a 
pretty bad place when I started going.  It's hard for me to know how 
good he is.  I've never been to a therapist before.  I didn't know what 
to expect.  I still don't know what's coming down the road.  I do think 
he's helping me, though.
senna
response 118 of 823: Mark Unseen   Apr 3 03:08 UTC 2002

Why would it be only 10 visits (I almost typed vsts, which is the shorthand
I use at work) in your case?

I should point out that clinical assessment is NOT something I deal with at
work.  It's everything else.
jep
response 119 of 823: Mark Unseen   Apr 3 03:11 UTC 2002

My therapist told me that there's no guarantee MCARE will let me use 
all 20 allowable mental health treatments for 1 problem.  They did pre-
guarantee 10 visits, though.  I've done 6 or 7 of those 10, so I guess 
I'll find out pretty soon if they'll cover another 10.
senna
response 120 of 823: Mark Unseen   Apr 3 04:00 UTC 2002

Very interesting.  If done right, it should depend on input from the
therapist--I can request authorizations for most outpatient procedures at St.
Joe's, but I have nothing to do with auths in mental health.  The companies
always want specific info.  The good news, to me, is that it sounds an awful
lot like the therapist is hedging his bets, and if he really thinks you need
more visits, you've got a good chance of getting them.  That is, if he was
actually using the "no guarantee" phraseology.  I know MCDR (MCare's mental
health administrator) sends us auth extensions periodically, many to well over
ten visits, so it's not unheard of.
vidar
response 121 of 823: Mark Unseen   Apr 3 04:38 UTC 2002

IBB I think I may have passed by a certain high school friend (whose 
name I won't mention since people here seem to think I'm obsessed with 
him) today as I was leaving college without realizing who he was.
jaklumen
response 122 of 823: Mark Unseen   Apr 3 08:07 UTC 2002

help, I'm stuck in a rut and I can't get out.

Depression, you say?  Wish I could help myself.
eskarina
response 123 of 823: Mark Unseen   Apr 3 13:41 UTC 2002

I'm starting to wonder if I know anyone who ISN'T depressed right now.

What do you think it is?
happyboy
response 124 of 823: Mark Unseen   Apr 3 13:47 UTC 2002

misery loves company.  find some less whiney friends.
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